The nuts and bolts of the Martin trade

[FaStRmAn]

I voted no. We traded a good starter for a good bench/border line starter. Kevin was not a fit for this team, but Kevin is a proven quality starter. Landry is a better fit for this team just not the type of player that will have a huge impact in my opinion. Landry isn't the defender or low post threat some people are making him out to be. For me the value we got doesn't match what we gave up. Its really that simple for me.

I don't think this was a terrible move and if things come together in free agency this move could end up as a good deal. At the moment I'm just underwhelmed.

I think it is more correct to say that Kevin was a starter on the KINGS. Whether he would have started anywhere else is questionable at best because of his defensive problems. He would be considered a bench player, a 6th man who could come in with instant offense. As a starter, the Kings did not have a very good record with Martin. He gave up as many points as he scored far too often. His +/- was always in the negative. The addition of Landry automatically strengthens our interior defense, give us a low post threat, and opens up the offense in a way that Martin never could. There will be more wide open shots with Landry on the floor because of the double teams, and now 'Reke has someone to shovel the ball to under the rim who can finish. 'Reke's assist numbers will go up just because Landry is a more consistent finisher. Also there will be less wide open shots for the other teams we play because there will be better back court defense and better defense in the paint. Maybe even less double teams needed in the paint, which has always caused our defense to fail. I see this as a WIN for the Kings and an so-so for the Rockets. They are taking a pretty big gamble on Kevin. He is one dimensional and a defensive liability.He is a lot like T-Mac in that respect. And now they have one less interior defender to cover up Kevin's defensive mistakes. It is a gamble for Houston no doubt. but Adleman knows what he is getting so he must have a plan.

As for the additional cap space we gained. All that is is money the Maloofs do not have already spent. They can choose to not spend that money or they can spend a small portion of it to get another piece without having to worry about going over the cap. It is good, but dont expect the Maloofs to shoot the whole wad on a top tier player. First off, it would be very hard to get one of those players to come to Sacto without excessively overpaying them. And there is value in bringing in several smaller pieces that can help improve the team that would cost a lot less and probably be more effective in the long run. So Far Petrie has done a good job using little money to improve the Kings incrementally. This summer, after all the big names have either moved or resigned with their original teams which is more likely, then we will see what there is left that can help the Kings move in the right direction and help move the team toward what Paul Westphal's vision of the team is. Hopefully that vision will create a team that can compete and win playoff games in 2-3 years.

 

[TheWileyVet]

I just wish we could have somehow snagged one of NYs 1st rounders.


I just pray that we can lure someone to play here in the offseason. Chances are we will end up overpaying a semistar tho :-/

 

[PassFirst]

Those were all MLE deals when ownership was dictating the Kings be competitive on a budget. That isn't quite throwing max money around to anyone with their hand out.

how can you tell the difference? the maloofs forcing geoff to sign players to bad contracts like beno, garcia and shareef, arent any worse than the players that geoff has traded for, nocioni and thomas. it took geoff 5 years to shed this team of webber's contract which at the time had only 2 years left on the deal. thomas used to play for the rockets, ive followes his career the entire time because i thought that he wouldnt last this long. granted, he didnt do much in his last few years here.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I think it is more correct to say that Kevin was a starter on the KINGS. Whether he would have started anywhere else is questionable at best because of his defensive problems.

Wow. Just wow. There's been a lot of Kevin Martin bashing over the last few months but I think you just took the cake.

 

[fnordius]

Big defensive minded centers are very rare and those teams that have them know that and they don't want to let them go. Even if you offer them a Kevin Martin.

Assuming no decent centers were available, I'd have settled for a youngish player of equal value.

 

[Superman]

I'm sure we went there and were rejected.

And for that, I'm glad.