The Micromanagement of Chris Webber
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Bibby_Is_Clutch
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piksi said:
Can you think if anything better to talk about at 9:47 on a Kings off-day?
ReinadelosReys
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Bricklayer said:
Brick, you have no idea.... Yet, I still listen
Purple Reign
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kingskings! said:I agree the man wants attention, he's called every show on KHTK today. Having said that, it's more that he's adding details rather than giving three different stories. And having said that, there was no mention of the looming Escalade anywhere in any of the verisions I've heard.
But, I also agree with Lamar. Change the name to the star player of any other team leaving early (and I tend to believe that Chris did leave early after listening to Koz tonight on the radio), and we'd be making so much fun of THAT OTHER player, we'd all have to buy new keyboards before the night was over.
I don't agree. If this was New York, San Francisco, Houston, this story would not have gone past the first call. Because people in those communities have way better things to do than to drop dime on a player and think that he is doing the community a service.
Just_Lurkin
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jeffjcalweb said:
LMAO maybe he's a risk taker...has to be a little touched to call every sports show in sac to report *gasp* webber was using the atm!!
i'm just saying what relevence does his "sighting" have to do with anything? he may have skipped out on a game, but on the court i never questioned his heart. so what does it matter if he leaves a game early when he wasn't playing? this guy even admitted the beating was so bad that even he (a 'loyal fan) left. he's coming down on webb for the same thing he did.LOL
kingskings!
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VF21 said:
My concern, if it's true, is that Chris wants to be the leader of the team. Teams need leaders even more in adversity than when times are good. It doesn't look good or "leader-like" to bail on the team while they're still out there playing (badly).
My other concern is that it would not be the first "oops" of it's kind for Chris during a game. L.A. last season? Dining out with his girlfriend during a game after hopping the team plane to L.A. while injured? You're right, it's no big deal, unless you want to be the leader and unless you can't remember the hoohah THAT dinner raised only a year ago.
FWIW, I listened to Koz's show tonight thinking he'd debunk the whole story since he was at the game last night and would be in a position to either a) know that Webb was there or b) have a tape of Chris explaining or something.
But he defended Chris leaving "if that's what happened, if he was told it was "okay" to leave" and kind of chastised people who called in wanting to talk about it by trying to deflect the callers into discussing the Peja article.
Whatever, both items are being blown out of proportion and all this endless discussion/bashing leads to an ever decreasing enjoyment of the basketball season for me.
Lamar_Odom
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VF21 said:
True.
On the other hand, there is no proof that it didn't happen either. I've given my take on it. I'm laying it to rest.
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quick dog
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I have a theory, and based on my theory, the infamous ATM-gate scandle is easily explainable.
I submit that sports are immensely popular because, by their very nature, they are simple. It takes no mental strain or special intellect to enjoy sports. You don't have to know anything to pontificate about sports. That's why a run-of-the-mill dolt, like my 40-year-old nephew, can talk about sports all the time. He knows absolutely nothing about anything meaningful. He has no education. He has never had a meaningful job. He is just plain stupid. I love him to death, right?
I shall reiterate my thesis. Sports is about nothing, and those who know nothing can talk about sports ad infinitum in the comfort of their livingroom or your tavern.
I also think that sports enthusiasts invented statistics in an attempt to make sports seem more cerebral. Unfortunately, but consistent with my argument, ants, rats and pigeons also memorize things they see and smell.
End of lesson. QED
I submit that sports are immensely popular because, by their very nature, they are simple. It takes no mental strain or special intellect to enjoy sports. You don't have to know anything to pontificate about sports. That's why a run-of-the-mill dolt, like my 40-year-old nephew, can talk about sports all the time. He knows absolutely nothing about anything meaningful. He has no education. He has never had a meaningful job. He is just plain stupid. I love him to death, right?
I shall reiterate my thesis. Sports is about nothing, and those who know nothing can talk about sports ad infinitum in the comfort of their livingroom or your tavern.
I also think that sports enthusiasts invented statistics in an attempt to make sports seem more cerebral. Unfortunately, but consistent with my argument, ants, rats and pigeons also memorize things they see and smell.
End of lesson. QED
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Bibby_Is_Clutch
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VF21 said:Look again. I said "stand up to the scrutiny" not "stand up for Webber."
Close enough. Im standing up for him, which is, in a wiered way, is standing up to the scrutiny against him.
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ReinadelosReys
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2003 playoffs, you all know the story. Webb just about blows his knee out, has to be carried off the floor, through the tunnel where he is met by a cart to transport him to the lockerroom all the while with a towel over his face and Gerald Wallace by his side. The game goes on, the butt kicking by hands of the Dallas Mavericks continues with Nick the quick going crazy and Dirk throwing the ball into what seemed like the ocean. The Kings? Depleted, devasted and destroyed. Kings fans? Our hearts crushed..that is once they started beating again....But then, what is that? Chris Webber coming back on one leg to sit with his teammates. The picture is still in my mind of him sitting next to Vlade with his hand covering his mouth and Vlade with his arm around him.
What is this? Chris Webber comming back to the game? No way. Then again, they were in Dallas and not at home. Ah, but I guess Mike didn't want to come along, probably since he had a long night the night before after it was reported that he and his boys went out partying.
Fast foward to the Jazz game on the 14. Hey look, there's Cuttino Mobley and Mike Bibby....20 min. later there's Bobby Jackson! HALF TIME. Where is everybody! Shame on them, abandoning their team! How will we go on! But hey, I guess its ok for the fans to do it....
What is this? Chris Webber comming back to the game? No way. Then again, they were in Dallas and not at home. Ah, but I guess Mike didn't want to come along, probably since he had a long night the night before after it was reported that he and his boys went out partying.
Fast foward to the Jazz game on the 14. Hey look, there's Cuttino Mobley and Mike Bibby....20 min. later there's Bobby Jackson! HALF TIME. Where is everybody! Shame on them, abandoning their team! How will we go on! But hey, I guess its ok for the fans to do it....
bdouble013
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Remember that interview with Randy Moss the other day about paying his 10,000 fine in "Straight cash, homie."
When you are making MILLIONS of dollars a year you don't go hit up an ATM for at most $300 in $20's. You care $100's and lots of em. Next time you see the Maloofs ask em how many $100's they have on them at the moment. They won't answer, because it will be waaaay to many.
Now do we really think Webb is gonna go to Wells Fargo for $300 bucks in $20's? Riiiiight.
When you are making MILLIONS of dollars a year you don't go hit up an ATM for at most $300 in $20's. You care $100's and lots of em. Next time you see the Maloofs ask em how many $100's they have on them at the moment. They won't answer, because it will be waaaay to many.
Now do we really think Webb is gonna go to Wells Fargo for $300 bucks in $20's? Riiiiight.
Lamar_Odom
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bdouble013 said:
Not everyone has a $300 limit.
It's not about who, Lamar. Most ATM machines have a limit per transaction and they don't care who you are.
EDIT: Oops. I keep forgetting about all you big-city folks. Our ATM up here has a very strict limit. It's not like we have anywhere to spend the money anyway...
EDIT: Oops. I keep forgetting about all you big-city folks. Our ATM up here has a very strict limit. It's not like we have anywhere to spend the money anyway...
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albeitrue
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^Plus Web has more cash in his Bentley ashtray than that ATM machine has.^
Someone else said it, why would any real "FAN" rat out Web? To the woodshed!
If Web really did leave the Arena during the game, shame on him. Already, shame on him for not joining the team after the halftime break, unless of course his ankle injury is serious.
Just my teeny weeny 02-1/2.
Someone else said it, why would any real "FAN" rat out Web? To the woodshed!
If Web really did leave the Arena during the game, shame on him. Already, shame on him for not joining the team after the halftime break, unless of course his ankle injury is serious.
Just my teeny weeny 02-1/2.
bdouble013
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Ok so whats the limit, $500, $1000? You think Webb is going to grab a grand in $20's out of an ATM? Thats 50 twentys he's carrying around. I find that hard to believe when he can get $100's the next day.
One thing to consider: Pete Youngman, the trainer, could have told Webber to go home and stay off his foot as much as possible to see how badly it would be swollen the next day.
After debating this virtually all day, I have come to the conclusion that in order for there to be something sinister or wrong in this, you have to believe that Webber isn't really the team leader and doesn't really care about the team. I refuse to believe either of those. IF - and that's still a big IF - he did leave, I'm sure there was a very good reason and it could well have been that he was told to do so by the training staff to get his weight off the foot so they could evaluate it in the morning.
After debating this virtually all day, I have come to the conclusion that in order for there to be something sinister or wrong in this, you have to believe that Webber isn't really the team leader and doesn't really care about the team. I refuse to believe either of those. IF - and that's still a big IF - he did leave, I'm sure there was a very good reason and it could well have been that he was told to do so by the training staff to get his weight off the foot so they could evaluate it in the morning.
albeitrue
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What's wrong with this scenario: He was pissed and just said "F" it. He walks thru the tunnel, takes a shower, and just leaves. Impossible? Well, he's only human ya know. Give him a pass? That's up to management. But in my little scenario he does get a pass, as he has before, for publicity sake. But he feels real bad and kicks arse on Duncan Thursday. Anyone liking my scenario so far???VF21 said:
Maybe it sounds too simple, but it will help me sleep tonight!
PejaFanatic
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NBA players only carry cash (LOL) and it's not in 20s either....
love_them_kings
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G_M said:
I honestly think he was on the bench. I am not 100% sure, but I thought I saw him right at the end. I am not going to get worked up about this (ever changing ) story. By this morning the story will probably be that Webb offered the guy a bribe not to tell the story!
G_M
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The story is that he was NOT on the bench at the end of the game. Thats it!!! Forget everything else.
Extenuating medical reasons aside it would have been NICE for the LEADER to be there going through it with the rest of the guys. Even if players feel that way they would not say anything in public.
Extenuating medical reasons aside it would have been NICE for the LEADER to be there going through it with the rest of the guys. Even if players feel that way they would not say anything in public.
Kingsgurl
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Um, he didn't SAY anything. Some guy calls in 5 times to a radio show and it merits this much angst and discussion? IF Webb left, and that's a pretty big IF, considering the story went from saw a man who might have been Chris to having an actual conversation with him, then he obviously had the staffs blessing to do so. It's not like he was going to lead them to a comeback, from the bench. The amount of play this has gotten is beyond ridiculous.
love_them_kings
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G_M said:
I just don't think there IS a story. I don't trust the account of Webber being at the ATM from some guy who changes his story so many times. SO, why worry about it. Webber has been a great leader all season long. Why worry about why he left when we don't even know if he left? Even if he wasn't on the bench, he could have been in the locker room.
keflanag
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G_M said:
It is VERY common when a player gets hurt during a game and he is ruled out for the remainder of the game, that he does not return from the locker room to sit on the bench. I'm sure it's usually because they are receiving treatment, but a lot of times they only return to the bench if they are able to continue playing.
KP
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Agreed ^^ ...any fan who left a game that early isn't a true fan in my book anyway. I can't trust anything this supposed "witness" says. Why would Webb need to go get money? So he could go buy a cheeseburger or something?? lol, his boys are there 24/7 to make sure he can get anything he wants. There is a bad element at Arco lately... you've all noticed... They don't like the fact that Webb had that kind of a stretch(28 13 and 6)... and they are taking the first oppurtunity to take a shot at him(since they can't complain about his play)... aren't you proud of me VF, I didn't say "haters" once!love_them_kings said:
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