The Kings problems

[Sum182]

Peja Stojakovic is a great shooter, but when it is time to finish a game, he doesn't shoot, He is scared. Have you notice Peja's shooting attemps in the 4th qtr. It's very bad, and still he make about 26ppg.

This is a great player, but inconsistant. He can make 35 points today and tomorrow makes you 9. He plays with no heart. Adelman must teach him how to play with heart, how to have the feeling that you want to be the best, how to be the best.

I know stojakovic is the best shooter in the NBA but the feeling is deep inside his rock heart. Is up to Adelman to create consistancy in this player to create the best shooting machine in history.

Mike Bibby plays with heart, but he is very inconsitant right now. He is lately struggling but I know his shooting will heal soon.

Brad Miller makes me angry because he is the center, and he is always close to the 3 point line. He is a great jump shot shotter, but that is not his position. He is letting Bonzi play his position. If he misses the jump shot, this is a secured rebound for the opposing team. This is not right. He must play his position or the kings will be going anywhere this year.

Bonzi and Abdul Rahim are the players that are playing awsome for the kings right know. What our team needs is the consistancy of bibby and peja and Brad Miller as Center to be first in the league.

 

[BigWaxer]

I have been staying out of all these blame everyone threads because it's basically people going off the deep end and having expectations set to high to begin with. AS I stated before the season even started... a lot of people here had expectations WAY too high.

Brad plays were he is supposed to in the offense. This is the Princeton HIGH POST offense. He is playing were he belongs in this system.

Peja is Peja. Why everyone all the sudden wants to change him is beyond me. He has pretty much always played like this. If anything, one could argue that he is not getting the ball enough and the team is not looking for him. That is not Peja's fault. You cannot teach someone to have heart, just as Houston cannot teach Yao to have a mean streak. It's not in them.

Bibby is just like everyone else, trying to find their place in this offense with a group of new players.

It is going to take time, sure we may not have time for this year but you don't slap a new team on the court and win a title. It takes teams with the right mix of player’s years of playing together to achieve things. We are sitting here asking a new team to go out the first year and win a title. In a span of 4 games the fans have BOOED the team, have called for RA’s head and basically blamed everyone on the team.

Funny thing is nobody mentions the bench production. That is the obvious weak point in this team and we should be looking to boost our production from them. Our bench is getting killed. If they would at least equal the numbers of the other teams bench we would be around .500 now.

All in all it’s going to take time. If people don’t want to wait and blow the team apart and fire the coach then welcome back to 1986 and let’s start up another run of 11 straight losing seasons.

 

[Sum182]

I agree with you that the bench is a mayor problem for the team. ADELMAN IS GIVING K-mart, J-Hart and F-Garcia too much minutes. In the 2nd qtr. ADELMAN always puts the bench to start and they get killed.

Oh, and for the Princeton HIGH POST offense that ADELMAN uses: The kings got outrebounded by the nuggets 36-56 on their last meeting. The kings need a change on their playbooks, specially deffensively, and the most effective way is to fire the ALL OFFENSIVE COACH: RICK ADELMAN, and get a deffensive coach. Have you noticed how easy the opponent scores to the Kings? And how difficult is to the Kings to score....

A solution to win is to get a Princeton LOW POST offense guy like KG(never gonna happen).....or fire the coach

The Kings need a star player. Bibby, Peja, Bonzi, Miller and Reef are good players but, they need an all star like t-mac on houston, KG on the T'wolves, and kobe on the lakers, that on the last seconds he gets the ball and finish the game.(Bibby, but he's not an allstar) Someone who is consistant and shines over the team, like Webber several years ago. If you ask someone for the star player on the Kings, they won't know what to answer.

You are right, the season has yet started but, the kings seem to have problems on their adjustments, thats were ADELMAN supposed to enter.

 

[Bricklayer]

The Kings problems can basically be broken down into two groups: the permanent ones, and the temporary ones.

The temporary ones (offensive) will eventually be resolved at some level. For all of their individual shortcomings, we have enough scorers that barring a team meltdown, they will eventually have to stop tripping over themselves and start putting up solid numbers. And Rick is a very good offensive coach. Numbers that we were used to in the days of yore? Maybe, maybe not. But above average numbers at the least.

The permanent problems are defense and rebounding -- the joke being that we talked about solving them and then Geoff laid a golden turd on those fronts in the offseason. When the temporary problems solve themselves we will not be a bad team. May even be a good team and should be able to beat the weak sisters around the league. But the permanent probelms are endemic and will prevent this team from ever being great, no matter whether we start scoring or not. The ONLY way to fix them is to make a major trade or trades amongst the starting lineup to change our mix. You can't acquire multiple scoring-oriented softies and then just tell them that as of now, you are going to be "hard".

The people worried that the temporary offensive problems are never going to be solved and that we're going to win 25 games, are overreacting. The people worried that the permanent problems are never going to be solved and that we'll be lucky to survive a round of the playoffs however, are not.

 

[chelle]

The thing I dislike the most is how we are already vilifying our players. I think we all agree that Bibby needs to be a better defender, Peja needs to be a better rebounder and defender, Miller needs to be a better defender - notice the pattern?

The point is, none of these players are bad players. They rank highly at their respective positions. They are very good at what they do. What they do not do is play great defense. However, they did not just show up and go on the court and play. They were brought here. We have the team that assembled. I know I am stating the obvious, but I think it needs to be said. It is up to the execs to make changes to make the team better on defense. I believe that Petrie will work it out somehow. I do expect a trade this year, but I will not even hazard a guess as to who it will be. It will have to be a starter to make any real difference. I will be sad, no matter which guy it is. If they are ina King's uni, they have my support.

My opinion about our problems is this: We do not know who we are. This applies from the top to the bottom. I think it will take everybody a while to figure it out. The execs have to decide on the team they wants us to be and make changes accordingly. The players have to find their "identity." AS fans, we have to decide if we are fans just when it is fun or if we are in it through thick and thin. As for myself, I will STILL be here cheering for my team!

BTW, Brick - great observations!! Here's to hoping the temporary problems are solved soon!

 

[thesanityannex]

As for myself, I will STILL be here cheering for my team!

Cheers to that notion.

 

[Gary]

Funny thing is nobody mentions the bench production. That is the obvious weak point in this team and we should be looking to boost our production from them. Our bench is getting killed. If they would at least equal the numbers of the other teams bench we would be around .500 now.

All I have been talking about is the bench. Im a somebody!!

"I think it's our bench. Adleman is not playing them correctly.

The bench should be Williamson (why the hell hasn't he played Williamson? former 6th man), Thomas, Hart, Skinner. THAT'S IT! Maybe 3-5 minutes to Martin. And USE THEM! Before they have a chance to get a rythem Adleman pulls them out. Adleman is the reason why the bench is playing so poorly."


"Is Adleman TRYING to get fired? Or is he clueless when to put in/take out reserves? There was no flow to this game, and the substitution pattern again sucked. I say give him until game 10. If the Kings aren't at least .500 than fire him. We don't need to see this all year. I am tired of it already.

After we fire Adleman than trade Williamson, and Thomas. Maybe get in a backup that wants to play backup."

Ok, so maybe there was Adleman blurbs in there too, but I did mention the bench!

 

[CaminoChaos]

I agree with Brick. Our scoring will come with time. People have been saying "Don't worry it's only been 2 weeks". It doesn't bother me that were losing it bothers me the way we are losing. We are getting SPANKED! We are giving large sums of points in small periods of time. This team has NO heart.
We will get our offense back but keep giving up big leads because nobody can defend.

Bibby will never play good D. We will have to keep relying on our bigs to help.

We will never deliever a foul hard enough to send a player to the foul line to shot 2 shots instead of 1.

PLAY SOME D YOU SOFT COWARDS!

 

[ReinadelosReys]

Peja is Peja. Why everyone all the sudden wants to change him is beyond me. He has pretty much always played like this. If anything, one could argue that he is not getting the ball enough and the team is not looking for him. That is not Peja's fault. You cannot teach someone to have heart, just as Houston cannot teach Yao to have a mean streak. It's not in them.

100% correct. The only problem was that these problems--not just Peja's, but this goes for all the players and the team as a whole--were conveniently masked by the team's successes and therefore ignored. People are acting like they haven't been watching the team the last couple of years when in fact the writing has been on the wall the whole time.

One thing I have observed from this team and the perspective of the team in general is that they are still living in the shadows of the Kings teams of the past. Sure, its hasn't even been one season since the most of the mainstays of the team that everyone grew to love left or were traded away, but I can still hear some interview with basketball "analysts," read some random article in a newspaper or even a post on this board and the Kings of the past are mention and whether intentional or not compared to this current version.

Looking at the team on the court and its like they are trying to replicate what they used to have when it simply--IMHO--is not possible. The shots will start to fall, these are good basketball players we have here that alone will win them some games. But when this team gains an identity---completely irrevocably removed from that of the past---is when they will begin address the major problems they have. Who is to blame for the lack of the identity? The players themselves for not doing it on their own? Sure. The Coach and front office for trying to fit square pegs in to round holes? You bet. The fans? Naturally.

And it’s not like the team is lost and won’t be able to find their way back to the path of NBA success. Its WAY too early to even entertain making vast changes. Besides if you can find some sand paper, I’ve got a carver’s knife.

 

[Padrino]

The Coach and front office for trying to fit square pegs in to round holes

this is perhaps the best analogical description for this team that i've yet heard. SAR is not c-webb. jason hart is not bobby jackson. brian skinner is not a center. corliss williamson is not a center. hell, kenny thomas is hardly a power forward. when this kings team discovers their own identity, then maybe they'll win on a relatively consistent basis. until that time, tho, we're gonna continue to see them struggle. breaks my heart...

 

[AriesMar27]

im watching the laker-sixer game right now and ive noticed something..... all of the laker role/bench players are good 3pt shooters-george, cook, profit, parker, sasha..... all of the kings bench players are horrible 3pt shooters...

that and i love igudala or however you spell his damn name....

 

[6th]

im watching the laker-sixer game right now and ive noticed something..... all of the laker role/bench players are good 3pt shooters-george, cook, profit, parker, sasha..... all of the kings bench players are horrible 3pt shooters...

that and i love igudala or however you spell his damn name....

I spell it I.g.g.y. It is easier.

 

[AriesMar27]

and now i know...... i would gladly trade peja for him and filler or bonzi.... anyone on our team outside of bibby, reef and maybe miller unless we got hunter in the deal.....

 

[VF21]

that and i love igudala or however you spell his damn name....

Allen Iverson is AI. igudala is ai.

 

[AriesMar27]

whatever you wanna call him..... he is exactly what we need.... iggy and hunter for peja and someone maybe bring in another team so we could throw in thomas or corliss would be great.....

 

[6th]

whatever you wanna call him..... he is exactly what we need.... iggy and hunter for peja and someone maybe bring in another team so we could throw in thomas or corliss would be great.....

I would love to have Iggy. If you remember, I mentioned some time ago that Iggy went to Lanphier High School in Springfield, IL with my nephew. He is a great kid and comes from a great family, not to mention that he is a very good basketball player. I would take him in a heartbeat.

 

[Kings113]

Iguodala is a great young player, and is going to be a great player in the league. I've been following him since draft time, but I highly doubt we'd do that trade.

I love saying his name too.