The biggest losers of the '09 playoffs

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LOL! wow somehow the Kings wound up in this article... kinda funny... although I think missing out on Rambis was with out a doubt GOOD THING! screw that loser crybaby...

Sacramento Kings

by Marc Stein


Non-playoff teams rarely blip onto the national radar once the playoffs start. And it probably isn't good news if they do.

That was definitely the case for the Kings -- twice -- when the team with the league's worst record fell as low as it possibly could in the May 19 draft lottery by winding up with the No. 4 pick and then couldn't convince Lakers assistant coach Kurt Rambis to accept the terms they were offering to fill their coaching opening.

Who knows? Maybe the events of the past month will wind up working out for the Kings. Maybe Ricky Rubio will fall to Sacramento at No. 4 and maybe Paul Westphal can surprise the skeptics and bring some joy back to Arco Arena.

So far, though, Sacramento's offseason hasn't been the happiest.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playo...olumnist=stein_marc&page=PlayoffLosers-090616
 
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The problem is, this is from a national media perspective. Of course they're going to think that we're terrible, especially since the ping-pong balls haven't bounced our way for two consecutive years.
 
Idiot. Yeah, the worst team in the league has NEVER gotten the #4 pick. That was a waste of 30 seconds that I'll never get back. Thanks Marc
 
People's unreasonable hostility towards a guy like Marc Stein for pointing out the obvious (to us) for people around the country who may not have been following never fails to amaze me.

Every single thing he said was right. Every thing. Nothing overstated. Nothing spun. Nothing we haven't said ourselves around here. But because ooh, somebody in the national media has the audacity to take notice and call us on our woes, must be evil. Huh? :confused:
 
Right... we got no respect in the media during the first quarter of this decade...





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You're right; that totally didn't happen...
 
One example? Are you claiming to have a blind spot to those three years? Or are you actually suggesting that, if we weren't on the cover of a magazine, it didn't happen?
 
A cover on SI is a sign of respect, and I thanked you for pointing that one out. I'm not quite sure what you're asking.

However, I don't feel that a mid-season cover of SI can suffice for an entire decade, but that's just IMO.
 
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Now back to Stein ->

Think about this: Stein writes an entire article based on the biggest losers of the 2009 NBA playoffs and manages to END the article with a whole paragraph devoted to a team that didn't even make the playoffs. His conclusion contradicted his thesis. This is called bad journalism.

I mean really, are you going to include the Clippers in an article about the biggest winners of the playoffs because they are drafting number 1?? :rolleyes:

BTW, he didn't.
 
That article is ridiculous. We're talking about Kurt Rambis right? In the season in which he was left in charge of the lakers, he was a gigantic disaster and somehow the king's not signing him is a factor making them the biggest loser? Don't buy it
 
i dont think missing out on rambis is a big loss, but that's just my opinion. if stein would have put something like the kings getting turned down by jordan, thibodeau, and rambis...that might have helped out his argument. i mean i dont hate him for pointing out what occured during this offseason, getting the 4th pick does kinda suck, but i dont think we belong in that article. im much happier with westphal than rambis.
 
Just to bring some clarity to what the person was saying about getting no respect.

Yes the Kings on the cover of Sports Illustrated...more than once I think. Yes the Kings had many nationally televised games.

However, those national broadcasters at times would find a positive and it turn it into a negative while speaking about it any way they could. And not just Walton.

The Kings were repeatedly shunned on ESPN highlight reals, and the only reason the Kings were ever talked about, was because the people on the shows had no choice. The Kings were at the top, you couldn't ignore them. But ESPN talked about the Kings just long enough to get to the next Kobe and Shaq highlight real.

So, I think that's what the poster was talking about. And that is fact. It's something that was discussed repeatedly on this very board. In fact I think it was during that time that the phrase BSPN was born on this board.
 
DocHolliday said:
... The Kings were repeatedly shunned on ESPN highlight reals [sic], and the only reason the Kings were ever talked about, was because the people on the shows had no choice. The Kings were at the top, you couldn't ignore them. But ESPN talked about the Kings just long enough to get to the next Kobe and Shaq highlight real [sic]...
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Eventually, people are going to realize that this is a lost cause. ESPN is based in Connecticut. The only west coast team that has EVER consistently received airtime/highlight coverage on "The Worldwide Sports Leader" is the lakers, and I don't know that it's either worthwhile or productive to expect that to ever change.

That being said, I don't think that ESPN slurping the lakers beyond reason is the same as the Kings not getting the respect they "deserved." When the Kings were a top team, they essentially got the same percentage of coverage that the Nuggets are getting right now. More is not to be expected, whether it's "deserved" or not and, right, wrong or indifferent, if you're going to continue to watch ESPN, you're better off making peace with that fact than raising your blood pressure over something that ESPN has no interest in changing and, frankly, has no real reason, from their perspective, to change.

Personally, I think that, if you want to be outraged, be outraged on behalf of Portland, who has a very good young team, and a star player in Roy, but get no love on ESPN because they're not "sexy" enough. At least when we were good, we had a "sexy" star in Webber that got us some coverage, but because Brandon Roy is the Tim Duncan of shooting guards, nobody gets to see the Trailblazers.

Cliff Notes version, what I'm getting at is that I think that some of my fellow Kings Fans have unreasonable expectations for how much "respect" we should be/have been entitled to.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Eventually, people are going to realize that this is a lost cause. ESPN is based in Connecticut. The only west coast team that has EVER consistently received airtime/highlight coverage on "The Worldwide Sports Leader" is the lakers, and I don't know that it's either worthwhile or productive to expect that to ever change.

That being said, I don't think that ESPN slurping the lakers beyond reason is the same as the Kings not getting the respect they "deserved." When the Kings were a top team, they essentially got the same percentage of coverage that the Nuggets are getting right now. More is not to be expected, whether it's "deserved" or not and, right, wrong or indifferent, if you're going to continue to watch ESPN, you're better off making peace with that fact than raising your blood pressure over something that ESPN has no interest in changing and, frankly, has no real reason, from their perspective, to change.

Personally, I think that, if you want to be outraged, be outraged on behalf of Portland, who has a very good young team, and a star player in Roy, but get no love on ESPN because they're not "sexy" enough. At least when we were good, we had a "sexy" star in Webber that got us some coverage, but because Brandon Roy is the Tim Duncan of shooting guards, nobody gets to see the Trailblazers.

Cliff Notes version, what I'm getting at is that I think that some of my fellow Kings Fans have unreasonable expectations for how much "respect" we should be/have been entitled to.
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I disagree with your statement that Roy wasn't sexy enough. I honestly believe I saw more Blazer/Roy highlights this year than any other team/player. I don't watch ESPN like every single day, but when I did i saw Roy on there alot. Even at the beginning of the season it was all about Blazer love and how they were going to finally make the playoffs and how Greg Oden was going to be amazing... (BUST BUST BUST!!! SAM BOWIE v2!) :D
 
More bias here than the ESPN crew plus wannabes.

Beside stating the obvious, I don't see what's wrong with the article.

Is he suppose to say how good we are? :rolleyes:

You want respect...go earn it.
 
Rookie said:
More bias here than the ESPN crew plus wannabes.

Beside stating the obvious, I don't see what's wrong with the article.

Is he suppose to say how good we are? :rolleyes:

You want respect...go earn it.
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More bias here? This is a Kings forum, not an alledgedly "national" sports network. ESPN definitley has an east coast bias. Confirmed by a Sacramento reporter who went to work for ESPN back when the Kings were hot.

I think what some people here wonder about the article, is why pick on the Kings as the losers of the '09 playoffs, when we weren't even in the playoffs? Seems very off the wall to me.:rolleyes:
 
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kennadog said:
I think what some people here wonder about the article, is why pick on the Kings as the losers of the '09 playoffs, when we weren't even in the playoffs? Seems very off the wall to me.:rolleyes:
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How about because we have had, without a single doubt to anybody not on this board, the WORST 12 months on any team in the NBA. We finished with the worst record, just hired our 3rd coach in 6 months, traded away half the team, got screwed in the draft, whiffed on our top coaching candidate, and have an arena issue threatening to chase the team from the town within the year.

Kings fans have a raging and very off putting insecurity issue and whine incessantly about no respect this nobody pays attention that. Well some of them are paying attention. They are paying attention to us sucking it up right now. This is the attention you get when you are at the very bottom and nothing, not one thing, is going right. But I see, we only want attention when it involves blowing smoke up our behinds and being told how wonderful we are even while there are a dozen threads around here now wondering how we got in this mess and how we are going to get out.
 
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we got all the "respect" we deserved when we were contending, i dont agree with posters that said we were shuned blah blah blah, no dude on the real. we sucked, we shouldn't get any respect or coverage. but theres always a silver lining, now that were on the bottom, theres no other way but up.
 
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How about because we have had, without a single doubt to anybody not on this board, the WORST 12 months on any team in the NBA. We finished with the worst record, just hired our 3rd coach in 6 months, traded away half the team, got screwed in the draft, whiffed on our top coaching candidate, and have an arena issue threatening to chase the team from the town within the year.

Kings fans have a raging and very off putting insecurity issue and whine incessantly about no respect this nobody pays attention that. Well some of them are paying attention. They are paying attention to us sucking it up right now. This is the attention you get when you are at the very bottom and nothing, not one thing, is going right. But I see, we only want attention when it involves blowing smoke up our behinds and being told how wonderful we are even while there are a dozen threads around here now wondering how we got in this mess and how we are going to get out.
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My example and the reporter I mentioned happend to be about the 2002/2003 season, not the last 12 months. Leaving the Kings out of it entirely, an east coast bias is still quite evident to me on ESPN.
 
Bricklayer said:
How about because we have had, without a single doubt to anybody not on this board, the WORST 12 months on any team in the NBA.
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There's no doubt about this. However, when you work for the largest sports broadcasting empire in the world and you write an article about the 2009 playoffs, I expect to see an article about the 2009 playoffs. Not an article featuring over a paragraph about the worst team of the regular season.

Stein was writing 2 articles in this one, and somehow he managed to bash our team in the process. That's what is disrespectful.

If you are going to talk about how much we suck, fine. But when you call us "the biggest losers of the 2009 playoffs," it just doesn't make sense and it doesn't fit.
 
ESPN is the reason why we kingsfans are some of the most dedicated fans in the NBA. If we don't support our team, nobody will.

That underdog mentality gives us an edge, and we were popular enough during our peak years that we have a fan base outside of Sacramento (unlike a team such as Memphis). I have no doubt that we will begin getting national coverage once again.

It is unfortunate that there is such a bias on ESPN, but I do not envy fans of "Big" market teams like the Lakers, Yankees, etc. It just seems too easy and convenient.
 
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kingsnation said:
If you are going to talk about how much we suck, fine. But when you call us "the biggest losers of the 2009 playoffs," it just doesn't make sense and it doesn't fit.
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unless you read "playoffs" as "mid-April to Mid-June." the lotto suckiness and the coaching snags did occur during the playoffs.
 
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