Tennessee @ Stanford

6th

Homer Fan Since 1985
Who is going to the big game this Sunday, Dec 4th? MBF and I will be going down. Anyone else going? Are we meeting up somewhere before or after? Plans anyone?
 
I wanna go!!!!

I was planning on going.
But this is a huge work week.
So busy I have to braid up the Afro. But I would like to catch up with the Monarchs crew. Where are we meeting?
 
Carole said:
What makes it a 'big game'?

Just because...

1. the only time the perennial powerhouse (Tennessee) with Pat Summit is in our neck of the woods.

2. Stanford sometimes fields a powerhouse themselves and has Vandeveer (I have never remembered how to spell that name:o ) as their coach.

3. Stanford often has a team that can give Tennessee a real battle and beat them as well.
 
The #1 team in the country is in Northern California.

Ditto on the Tenn/Stanford rivalry
Ditto on getting a chance to see "The Chosen One" play in person.
Getting a chance to see the Chosen One play against last year's national freshman player of the year, PAC-10 newcomer of the year/PAC-10 Player of the year (what postseason award didn't she win?) in what is billed the battle of the Candices (or Candaces) or Candace vs. Candice.
 
I thought that was understood or at least implied since Stanford has had its fair share of weeks at the top spot in the country. But you can go to see Stanford play anyday, but it's not everyday you get the number one team in the nation coming to town to play @ Maples too.
 
How about we meet for some eats after the game? Since it's a early start, then we'll all be together. We can talk about the game as well!
Can't wait! Sound like a plan?
 
NothinButHoops said:
How about we meet for some eats after the game? Since it's a early start, then we'll all be together. We can talk about the game as well!
Can't wait! Sound like a plan?

Works for me. I have not been to Stanford in about 20 years, so I have no idea of a suggested eatery. Let's have some suggestions...or a place to meet at Maples and we can take it from there. How does that sound?
 
NothinButHoops said:
How about we meet in front of box office , it's right in front of the Maples Pavilion. Maybe we can get some autographs as well?

Does that work, MBF?
 
Meeting at the box office after the game? That works for me. I don't have a specific place to suggest to go to eat, but they've built up the number of places to eat around there significantly it seems every time I drive the streets leading to the campus.
 
Listening to the Kings post game show last night, I heard Coach T say he and Whiz are headed to the game on Sunday to scout. (I believe in addition to Zolman, Tennessee has another noteworthy senior in T'yesha Fluker) Koz said Kara will be there tomorrow as well. So Sacramento will be out in pretty good force :)

In addition to the Chosen One, I've got my eye on Zolman - she's playing herself into a first round pick and also seems now to be hellbent on moving her stock up higher than our picks. I thought that might be a questionable proposition a year ago. She fits here, and if she or Lisa Willis from UCLA are available at our pick(s) or if we move up (a possibility I don't rule out either) -I'm going to say outside of the emotional attachment we all have to Chelsea and our attachment to her above average defensive ability, we may get an upgrade in some ways if we wind up with a player like either Willis or Zolman.
 
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QueensFan said:
What kind of food are you all interested in getting? I know the area if you'd like some suggestions.

I like food of all kinds. Throwing out the names of a few close-by (and easy to get to) places would be much appreciated.
 
Right across the street from Stanford on the corner of El Camino and Galvez/Embarcadero is "Town and Country Plaza" which has a few decent restaurants including "Kirk's Steakburgers" has great heaping hamburgers and delicious fries if that's your thing.

California Avenue, just up El Camino south of campus, has a number of nice lunch places including "Mediteranian Wraps" where you can pick up inexpensive falafel, gyros, and other Greek lunch items.

Hunan Garden, further south on El Camino, is a great Chinese restaurant within 5 minutes of campus.

Finally, there are a bunch of restaurants along University Avenue, and you can take your pick among them.

Good luck, enjoy the game, and Go Card!
 
THANKS! Great suggestions. I'll be cheering for Stanford....but I do love some Tenn. as well. Can't wait to get a look at Candace Parker.
 
Well, I won't be able to make it. Have a good time everyone!

I believe the game will also be televised on Fox Sports Net.
 
QueensFan said:
Right across the street from Stanford on the corner of El Camino and Galvez/Embarcadero is "Town and Country Plaza" which has a few decent restaurants including "Kirk's Steakburgers" has great heaping hamburgers and delicious fries if that's your thing.

California Avenue, just up El Camino south of campus, has a number of nice lunch places including "Mediteranian Wraps" where you can pick up inexpensive falafel, gyros, and other Greek lunch items.

Hunan Garden, further south on El Camino, is a great Chinese restaurant within 5 minutes of campus.

Finally, there are a bunch of restaurants along University Avenue, and you can take your pick among them.

Good luck, enjoy the game, and Go Card!

Thanks, QF. You are da bomb!! :D
 
What a wonderful day we had. Stanford did a great job against Tennessee, even though they eventually lost by 7. Tenn has the #1 ranking for a reason.

We saw and spoke briefly to Kara Lawson (and Danette). Krista Blunc, and several people from the Maloofs organization were also there. It was nice to see Coach Whiz (and his wife) and Coach T there scouting the players.

There were many people that carpooled down from Sac for the game. If the Monarchs had chartered a bus, we would have easily filled it.

Oh, and QueensFan, we went to Kirk's Steakburgers. Thanks for the tip. It was fantastic!
 
6th said:
What a wonderful day we had. Stanford did a great job against Tennessee, even though they eventually lost by 7. Tenn has the #1 ranking for a reason.

We saw and spoke briefly to Kara Lawson (and Danette). Krista Blunc, and several people from the Maloofs organization were also there. It was nice to see Coach Whiz (and his wife) and Coach T there scouting the players.

There were many people that carpooled down from Sac for the game. If the Monarchs had chartered a bus, we would have easily filled it.

Oh, and QueensFan, we went to Kirk's Steakburgers. Thanks for the tip. It was fantastic!
Glad you enjoyed the burgers!

It was an outstanding game - I don't think the final score reflects how hard fought it was since Tennessee ended the game on a run and with a bunch of freethrows.

One call befuddled me, however. Near the end of the game, a foul was called away from the ball while a Tennessee shot was in the air. The shot was good, but the fouled player was awared TWO freethrows. I have seen this happen before in the NBA and it is treated like continuation, with the fouled player getting ONE freethrow. Is the rule different in college/for women? I would appreciate a clarification!
 
QueensFan said:
Glad you enjoyed the burgers!

It was an outstanding game - I don't think the final score reflects how hard fought it was since Tennessee ended the game on a run and with a bunch of freethrows.

One call befuddled me, however. Near the end of the game, a foul was called away from the ball while a Tennessee shot was in the air. The shot was good, but the fouled player was awared TWO freethrows. I have seen this happen before in the NBA and it is treated like continuation, with the fouled player getting ONE freethrow. Is the rule different in college/for women? I would appreciate a clarification!

I am sure you are talking about a play that MBF were talking about at length.

It wasn't a shot from the floor, but a FT (I think I remember...I hate getting old :o ). If the FT was made then the ball was dead. Then how could they call a loose ball foul on a dead ball and award 2 Ft's? It was a very confusing call, and I have no idea why the refs did what they did. Then again, there were several...I repeat, several...crappy calls today.

I didn't think the refs were even going to let them play the game. They had 10 fouls called in less than 4 min of play to start the game. I was beginning to think that if a defender looked at the opposing player, they would call them for a foul.
 
6th said:
I am sure you are talking about a play that MBF were talking about at length.

It wasn't a shot from the floor, but a FT (I think I remember...I hate getting old :o ). If the FT was made then the ball was dead. Then how could they call a loose ball foul on a dead ball and award 2 Ft's? It was a very confusing call, and I have no idea why the refs did what they did. Then again, there were several...I repeat, several...crappy calls today.

I didn't think the refs were even going to let them play the game. They had 10 fouls called in less than 4 min of play to start the game. I was beginning to think that if a defender looked at the opposing player, they would call them for a foul.
Hmm, yeah, glad I wasn't the only one confused by that call. This was a situation where there was questionable officiating and the balance of the calls in those situations tends to go in favor of the team that is more aggressive, which in this case was Tenn. Fortunately, I don't think that officiating changed the outcome of the game and while I would have liked to see a cleanly refed game, I was thoroughly entertained.
 
6th said:
What a wonderful day we had. Stanford did a great job against Tennessee, even though they eventually lost by 7. Tenn has the #1 ranking for a reason.

We saw and spoke briefly to Kara Lawson (and Danette). Krista Blunc, and several people from the Maloofs organization were also there. It was nice to see Coach Whiz (and his wife) and Coach T there scouting the players.

There were many people that carpooled down from Sac for the game. If the Monarchs had chartered a bus, we would have easily filled it.

Oh, and QueensFan, we went to Kirk's Steakburgers. Thanks for the tip. It was fantastic!


Good to hear everybody had fun.

Whos Danette? Karas significant other?


Thought Kara and Koz were late to be at ARCO for the pregame show because CSN was showing ESPNews.
 
There were calls in that game that defied logic or understanding. I apologize to Darla Fouts-Stevens for ragging on her when that actually wasn't her officiating that game yesterday. It was the unforgettable Melissa Barlow. The refs killed the momentum of that first half, at one point we had calculated that they had called a foul once every 30 seconds - which sorta kinda equated to once every damn possession.

Danette Leighton is a upper level front office person. As 6th says, there were A LOT of Monarchs staff there and the Monarch fan contingents sprinkled around Maples was sizable.

I also agree, Kirk's Steakburgers was an excellent suggestion.

That game was very entertaining, and very befitting of previous Stanford Tennessee matchups. I'll agree with point of view that Luv13 had in a conversation we had after the game, Vanderveer's late game tacticianing left a lot to be desired. I went to the last Palo Alto meeting between these two schools two years ago, and I was sitting next to a woman who as THAT game started to slip away from Stanford, started vehemently making her point (by vehmently pounding each element of her opinion into my leg) about how badly outcoached Vanderveer gets by Summitt late in their games.

Candace Parker is definitely for real. Candice Wiggins is still very very good. Zolman - if she were available at our pick would make a wonderful Monarch.

One other thing I noted when I got home yesterday and read the paper. In the sports section there's a picture of Kara sitting in the stands with coach Summitt and other members of her coaching staff - IN SACRAMENTO on a recruiting trip looking at a kid who plays for Sac High. If I remember correctly the player's name is Vicki Baugh. LSU apparently had some assistant coaches in town visiting her as well. Those are two pretty high caliber programs in our backyard this weekend - perhaps we might want to make another field trip to check out young Ms. Baugh on the court to see what's up with that? Maybe when the city or conference tournaments start? I'll make a mental note to check out the girl's basketball prep rankings to see where Sac High ranks.

I know we had some local girls head to Cal and San Jose St. recently, I also saw stories on one who signed her letter of intent to go to UC Santa Barbara. Our most recent McDonald's All American either finished or will soon finish her career at Vanderbilt.
 
Here's that Bee article:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/13936598p-14773254c.html

Summitt scouts top area recruit

Pat Summitt had never visited Sacramento on a recruiting trip before Saturday. But there had never been a Vicki Baugh to recruit.

Summitt, the winningest coach in NCAA history and winner of six NCAA titles at Tennessee, watched Baugh during Sacramento High School's 69-27 nonleague win over Valley.
Baugh was an all-state underclass selection last season and is one of the top juniors in the country.
NCAA rules prohibit Summitt, who was joined by former Tennessee player and current Monarchs guard Kara Lawson, from commenting on the 6-foot-4 forward. Dragons coach John Langston said Baugh hasn't shown any signs of being distracted by the attention she is receiving from some of America's top programs.

"It's amazing to see a player with her talent and still so grounded," Langston said. "She hardly lets you know (she might be distracted). She comes to play."
Baugh's skills are guard-like with her ability to dribble the ball, but she also can score inside. She averaged 16.5 points and 11.7 rebounds per game last season and was named one of the 10 best sophomores in the country by USA Today.
Tennessee was not the only big-time program represented Saturday night. LSU assistant coach Carla Berry also was at the game.

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Tennessee coach Pat Summitt, center, watches Sac High's Vicki Baugh play Saturday. Summitt is joined by, from left, Monarchs guard Kara Lawson, Tennessee assistant Nikki Caldwell and ex-UCLA coach Billie Moore.
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/13936598p-14773254c.html#more_images

Sacramento Bee/José Luis Villegas

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Vicki Baugh
 
Ditto AND Ditto

Monty'sBiggestFan said:
That game was very entertaining, and very befitting of previous Stanford Tennessee matchups. I'll agree with point of view that Luv13 had in a conversation we had after the game, Vanderveer's late game tacticianing left a lot to be desired. I went to the last Palo Alto meeting between these two schools two years ago, and I was sitting next to a woman who as THAT game started to slip away from Stanford, started vehemently making her point (by vehmently pounding each element of her opinion into my leg) about how badly outcoached Vanderveer gets by Summitt late in their games.

Candace Parker is definitely for real. Candice Wiggins is still very very good. Zolman - if she were available at our pick would make a wonderful Monarch.

She-Bron is indeed the real deal. Wow she is better live than on TV.

Zolman... Ohh yeah Lets get her an 06 draft Jersey.

As for Tara...

LOUSY GAME STRATEGIST....
How this woman got into the Hall of Fame that quick is beyond me. To her credit she did alot to put West Coast Basketball on the map.
But...:confused: :confused:
She is a good recruiter, but she struggled with that from 96-00 til she landed lil Nicky. And Wiggins is very quick and dynamic but she is the only noteworthy recruit in that program since Powell.

Pat Summitt on the otherhand could take Big Out of Shape Luv13, Slow Giuliana, my middle aged mother. lil Mama Bristow and the 4 year old twins down the hill and have the team in contention.

I know there are a lot of Tara fans out there. And I don't mean to be disrespectful of them or what she has done. But that is my observation.
 
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As much as I love Tara (and I do love some Tara Vanderveer), that's not been a strength of her program. I'm not entirely sure how she managed to get Nicole and Candice other than those kids reaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllly must dig hitting the books. The undercurrent (which is also an argument used by the folks at Notre Dame) is that they can't recruit like the other schools do because their academic standards are so rigorous. I think Tara gets what she can out of who she is able to land. (I'm still heavy on the "Krista Newlin as the best Stanford post player E-VER by the time she graduates" bandwagon). But as a strategist, she can't hold Summitt's clipboard.
 
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