Steven Hunter

jay dubb

jay dubb

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I kind of like this guy for a number of reasons and I think that he would be a good for the Kings coming off the bench and here's why.

1. The guy is 24 years old, so he will have lots of time to develope, and it's seems like everytime someone comes to the Kings their game gets better.

2. He is very long and athletic at 7 ft tall and yes I know he needs to put on some weight but hey he is 24 so he will have plenty of time to do that.

3. He kind of reminds me of Keon Clark and Clark really helped the Kings be one of the best defensive teams in 02-03.
 
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AriesMar27

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yeah he would be a great fit if we were to get rid of ostertag..... well, i guess we could keep him and not play him....
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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Andriod_KiNg said:
Iv been saying it for a while, he can take over at the 5, and move Brad to the 4, but i heard he wants some chunk of change...
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I am not at all convinced he is a starter in theis leagye. before Nash resurrected him, he might not even hace still BEEN in this league. Useful backup type player because he is everything we are not, but I would be worried about him taking over ANY position for us.
 
Ryle

Ryle

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Bricklayer said:
I am not at all convinced he is a starter in theis leagye. before Nash resurrected him, he might not even hace still BEEN in this league. Useful backup type player because he is everything we are not, but I would be worried about him taking over ANY position for us.
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I think that if we have 2 centers(Hunter and Tag) who block shots and clog the middle it will improve our D tremendously.
 
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Andriod_KiNg

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Bricklayer said:
I am not at all convinced he is a starter in theis leagye. before Nash resurrected him, he might not even hace still BEEN in this league. Useful backup type player because he is everything we are not, but I would be worried about him taking over ANY position for us.
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Hunter has been improving for a while, he has always had good help defense and the ability to block the ball, his rebouding is above average at the center position, and his speed and athletism are all plus's, i think he can only get better, worth taking the chance on him since there is no one left....
 
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bigbadred00

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There's a reason why Orlando, one of the worst teams in the league released this guy without much thought. He isn't very good. Offensively he is a million miles behind any decent center in the league. Defensively he isn't bad, but we already have 2 pretty much defensive centers in Skinner and Ostertag who are getting paid a combined 9 million this year. Hunter is a poor man's Chandler, and I mean really poor.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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bigbadred00 said:
There's a reason why Orlando, one of the worst teams in the league released this guy without much thought. He isn't very good. Offensively he is a million miles behind any decent center in the league. Defensively he isn't bad, but we already have 2 pretty much defensive centers in Skinner and Ostertag who are getting paid a combined 9 million this year. Hunter is a poor man's Chandler, and I mean really poor.
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I would cheerfully take a streetperson's Chandler at this point -- would flat out welcome Hunter being signed to the Kings. He can only help, and absolutely the more the merrier when it comes to shotblockers/athletes. I've said before that I believe if you insist on having both Peja and Miller eating up 76 of the 144 minutes on the frontline, that basically EVERY other player who touches the floor at those spots must be able to cover for their pasty slowfooted unathleticness. We want to defend better, we need a critical mass of defenders.

I am merely stating that calling him a starter for a good team is a real reach. Last year he averaged a career high 13.8min.
 
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ParniValjak

ParniValjak

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With Tag gone, I would go after Hunter. He would be a very good back up at both 4 and 5. He brings athleticism, rebounding, shot blocking and defence, things that we are in desperate need of.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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Čarolija said:
With Tag gone, I would go after Hunter. He would be a very good back up at both 4 and 5. He brings athleticism, rebounding, shot blocking and defence, things that we are in desperate need of.
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Actually, somewhat to my surprise, not a good rebounder, although I think I knew that for some reason. Pretty steady over his career -- 3.0 in 13.8min, or 9 in 40+min. That's only a smidgeon better than Darius, which is to say not very good.

Great shotblocker though -- and the two things may be related. Rememeber when we used to have Causewell here, one of his problmes was he went for EVERY block, and so constantly threw himself out of rebounding position.
 
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Seldom Seen

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What kind change is Dahlembert after? How aggressive will the Sixers be to keep him -wasn't he in the dog house for much of the season? Sure like the idea of sliding Brad to the 4.
 
ParniValjak

ParniValjak

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Seldom Seen said:
What kind change is Dahlembert after? How aggressive will the Sixers be to keep him -wasn't he in the dog house for much of the season? Sure like the idea of sliding Brad to the 4.
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That would be awsome but not very realistic. It would have to be via sign and trade and I doubt Philly would do it.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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Seldom Seen said:
What kind change is Dahlembert after? How aggressive will the Sixers be to keep him -wasn't he in the dog house for much of the season? Sure like the idea of sliding Brad to the 4.
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Get this...reports right now is that he is off in Atlanta seeking the MAX. :eek:
 
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AriesMar27

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Bibby_Is_Clutch said:
I wouldnt mind Hunter... only problem is his size... he is tall but will get muscled around by most centers in the league.
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brad gets beat by everyone..... im surprised that no back up point guards havent tried to dunk on him..... he may become the next shawn bradley, in terms of respect in the paint atleast..... no one even cares that brad is there... hunter wouldnt have that problem.... would suck on offense except on put backs and the occasional dunk....
 
hrdboild

hrdboild

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Hunter would be a nice backup center for us. We need to bring in athletic backup players to compliment our unathletic starters. There's really no need to have two backups at any position. Adelman only plays an 8 man rotation anyway, maybe 9. But with OTag now gone, Petrie must be looking for a capable backup center and Hunter would fit the bill perfectly, provided he doesn't want crazy money. Definately no more than the MLE and hopefully a little less.
 
ParniValjak

ParniValjak

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hrdboild said:
Hunter would be a nice backup center for us. We need to bring in athletic backup players to compliment our unathletic starters. There's really no need to have two backups at any position. Adelman only plays an 8 man rotation anyway, maybe 9. But with OTag now gone, Petrie must be looking for a capable backup center and Hunter would fit the bill perfectly, provided he doesn't want crazy money. Definately no more than the MLE and hopefully a little less.
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There is no way in the world that hunter is worth MLE. Thats just WAY over the odds. Phoenix are offering him LLE whichis about $1.7 million. I think if you offered him say $2.5 million he would jump all over that offer.
 
hrdboild

hrdboild

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Which is great because that's about what he's worth. I just get worried when I see people like Jerome James getting 5 million dollar contracts that every 7 foot player is going to get way more than they're worth. If we can lock him up for 2.5 million, that'd be fantastic. We'd still have enough of the MLE to bring back Mo Evans.
 
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AriesMar27

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why would you want to bring evans back? with wells, martin and garcia on the team do we really need him?
 
hrdboild

hrdboild

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I don't think the Kings will bring him back, opting to give backup minutes to Martin instead. My thinking is, Evans is a young player and he showed potential last season for being a very good player. Both Cisco and Martin can play SF, and so can Evans for that matter, so there could still be minutes for all three of them. And with Bobby leaving the team, we lost a lot of toughness and energy off the bench which we know Mo could give us. Picking up a backup PG probably seems like a bigger priority, but there's less of a need for a traditional playmaker on this team since passing duties are shared by everyone. And Evans could be a defensive stopper for us off the bench. It's a stretch for playing time, but I like the idea of bringing Evans back more than any of the PG options people have suggested. (Or at least any of the ones that would cost us 2.5 million or so)
 
funkykingston

funkykingston

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I think Evans is gone.

Wells will eat up a ton of minutes as the starting SG and probably a significant number at SF against certain matchups.

I can't imagine Evans would want to return either. He definitely wouldn't start and would be fighting Garcia, Martin and possibly the backup PG (if Adelman goes small) for minutes. Contrary to popular opinion, Evans is not young in NBA terms. He'll be 27 at the beginning of the season and will likely get ONE more contract after the one he signs this summer. He needs minutes and I just don't see that happening often enough in Sacramento. Unless another guard is moved in a trade, I can't see the Kings matching many offers for Mo.

I'd like to see him back, but I don't really see the need for him.

As for Steven Hunter, I wouldn't mind seeing the Kings split the MLE between him and a decent backup PG. Splitting it between Hunter and Griffin would help the team as well, even if I have a problem with the team acquiring a guy with a rap sheet like EG's.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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funkykingston said:
Splitting it between Hunter and Griffin would help the team as well, .
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hey, if we could somehow pull that off that would really solve a lot of our problems with interior defense. But we'd have a surplus of big (well semi-big) bodies, so you would think there would have to be at least one more move.
 
nbrans

nbrans

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Bricklayer said:
hey, if we could somehow pull that off that would really solve a lot of our problems with interior defense. But we'd have a surplus of big (well semi-big) bodies, so you would think there would have to be at least one more move.
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Follow it up by sending one of our bigs to the Rockets for Mike James. Houston has about 7 backup point guards on their team already (Bob Sura, Wesley, Mike James, Moochie Norris, Charlie Ward, Luther Head) plus they're on the market for.... another point guard (I've heard they've offered Juwan Howard for Damon Stoudamire in a S&T). They need backup big men. If we get James we have our backup point guard -- an awesome defending PG off the bench.
 
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Kings113

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Mo Evans won't be starting anywhere, unless the Rockets sign him, but I doubt it over Barry/Wesley. He'll be on the bench, likely with the Spurs competing with Devin Brown. I'd be alright with that, but think he still has a role on this team, and K-Mart isn't a lock to stay here. He could be involved in a trade as a young piece. If he did come back with K-Mart/Garcia, Evans would be the #1 SG off the bench because of his proven energy, hustle, athleticism. With Garcia/K-Mart scrapping.

Mike James isn't really a PG, more like a small SG. Agreed on his defense though. Similar to House in the scoring sense. Head is like House as well. Wesley is a small SG period. Norris won't be getting a lot of PT or gone. Ward who knows, Sura probably stays.
 
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Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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Kings113 said:
Mo Evans won't be starting anywhere, unless the Rockets sign him, but I doubt it over Barry/Wesley. He'll be on the bench, likely with the Spurs competing with Devin Brown. I'd be alright with that, but think he still has a role on this team, and K-Mart isn't a lock to stay here. He could be involved in a trade as a young piece. If he did come back with K-Mart/Garcia, Evans would be the #1 SG off the bench because of his proven energy, hustle, athleticism. With Garcia/K-Mart scrapping.

Mike James isn't really a PG, more like a small SG. Agreed on his defense though. Similar to House in the scoring sense. Head is like House as well. Wesley is a small SG period. Norris won't be getting a lot of PT or gone. Ward who knows, Sura probably stays.
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There is still that possibility, but only if Geoff works pretty quickly here -- Kevin could be packaged with some of our remainng bigs to try to bring back a better frontcourt piece. Then you could sign Mo (or just match his best offer) and have good versatility off the bench behind Bonzi and Peja.

But even there, the problem remains that Kevin is ours, "free", and does not interfere with our ability to acquire other help, where my understanding is tht by bringing back Mo we wouold in essence be chewing up our MLE. I'd rather have the MLE and Kevin than just have Mo.
 
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