Some reasonable trade targets

[DesertFox]

Post draft, we're left with tyring to fix SF via moving one of our guards, or taking a chance on some flawed players by moving one of our ill-fitting flawed players.

I deem Evans untouchable, and thus Batum/Iggy unattainable. AK47 probably isn't signing here either. Those guys would be nice though.

No sexy moves, just throwing out some names that fit.

Jared Dudley- I still like the idea of moving him for Thornton, save a little cash too. (MALOOF) Suns need scoring, and MT can usher in the post Nash era next to Marshall. Dudley is the perfect teammate, hits 3's, above avg D, and has playoff experience but will only turn 27.

Tyrus Thomas- move him for Hayes or Salmons, 4th big after JT and can play some SF. Knucklehead, but that's kind of why he's available. Sort of a sideways but better fit move.

Wilson Chandler- Not sure of his value. Was discussed for the #7 pick, although clearly not worth that much. Hayes is the kind of guy Karl would like but he alone won't get it done. Would you be willing give up IT+Hayes? Probably not, but I'd send Jimmer packing.
I would love Affalo, but why would they move him, price would be too much.

Tayshaun Prince- Older, and not quite worth giving up Thornton for, and they don't have a future 1st or cheap assets to toss in, so the details seem hard to workout. But they could sure use a guy like Thornton, and Prince would fit the SF bill. If T-rob is the new 3rd guy, maybe you give a little scoring and youth for some D and leadership. Thornton is too steep for me, but Petrie has been linked to Prince in the past.

Dorrell Wright- I would trade Jimmer for him, would never happen in a million years, but it makes sense for both sides. Would you take Biedrins contract to dump Salmons+ Hayes?
They get an experienced ballhandling wing and a tough but undersized leader, and we get a long shotblocker and former 3 pt leader. Sounds nice when put that way.

Hedo Turkoglu- Dump Salmons and get another willing passer. Smart played the near-done Salmons at PF, so for an extra couple million you can make him a 6-10 Euro, and even get some glory years nostalgia. The Magic save some cash.

Thoughts? Any other players?

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

I'd probably go after Chandler, he would be pretty easy to plug in as our starting 3 and solve that issue...but its actually getting them to agree on a trade, which will be hard. I wouldn't mind Prince, but how many years does he have left?? I'd like to still try to score Batum via free agency.

 

[Tetsujin]

I'd probably go after Chandler, he would be pretty easy to plug in as our starting 3 and solve that issue...but its actually getting them to agree on a trade, which will be hard. I wouldn't mind Prince, but how many years does he have left?? I'd like to still try to score Batum via free agency.

That would be ideal

 

[rainmaker]

Lowry
Deng
Iggy
Udoh

Other than Gasol, the first three still are rumored to be available to certain degrees as the objective it to release salary. Udoh I'd try to talk Milw into trading with all the other bigs they now have.

 

[KingsCitizen]

On free agency, its probably good to pick up Hinrich and Belineli.
Hinrich could stabilize our PG rotation while Belineli can provide sniping minutes from the bench.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

I like Hinrich, but not sure if he will return to his former level of play before his shoulder surgery...and for how much?? He made like $8 million last year.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

What about getting Kapono off the bench?

 

[Kingster]

Just get Ilyasova and be done with it. He's a better shooter than Iggy or Batum. Tough dude. That's the end of the 3 charade if we get him. He provides the shooting and stability that we need at that position.

 

[Bricklayer]

Just get Ilyasova and be done with it. He's a better shooter than Iggy or Batum. Tough dude. That's the end of the 3 charade if we get him. He provides the shooting and stability that we need at that position.

Highly doubt Smart would look at him as a SF.

 

[TTown Kings]

That would be ideal

That would be a pipedream. We're not getting a starting caliber SF through FA. It just ain't going to happen. Remember, Maloofs? They just traded a 2nd round pick for straight cash. They're already paying Salmons $8M a year. They're going to sign a high priced SF? Yeah frickin right...

At this point I really don't see us doing anything. We'll roll into next season with Salmons or Reke as the starter at the 3, like it or not. If we're lucky they'll re-sign TWill and Smart will start him at the 3.

 

[Bricklayer]

That would be a pipedream. We're not getting a starting caliber SF through FA. It just ain't going to happen. Remember, Maloofs? They just traded a 2nd round pick for straight cash. They're already paying Salmons $8M a year. They're going to sign a high priced SF? Yeah frickin right...

At this point I really don't see us doing anything. We'll roll into next season with Salmons or Reke as the starter at the 3, like it or not. If we're lucky they'll re-sign TWill and Smart will start him at the 3.

Still like to see us take another run at AK47. He's not the shooter, but he's maybe the one singular presence that can balance our defensive frontline. We'll come up short of course -- why would he want to play for us? Especially with Brooklyn beckoning? But since we already made him an offer last offseason (that he rejected) I see no reason not to renew it now. Could fix so much with just one stroke of the pen.

 

[Section 101]

That would be a pipedream. We're not getting a starting caliber SF through FA. It just ain't going to happen. Remember, Maloofs? They just traded a 2nd round pick for straight cash. They're already paying Salmons $8M a year. They're going to sign a high priced SF? Yeah frickin right...

At this point I really don't see us doing anything. We'll roll into next season with Salmons or Reke as the starter at the 3, like it or not. If we're lucky they'll re-sign TWill and Smart will start him at the 3.

We HAVE to do something. Current team salary is about $46 mil w/TRobb, but w/o JT. We have to add around $12 mill in salary to meet the min.

 

[kingsnation]

On free agency, its probably good to pick up Hinrich and Belineli.
Hinrich could stabilize our PG rotation while Belineli can provide sniping minutes from the bench.

Unless IT or Jimmer were traded, there would be no minutes for Hinrich.

 

[DesertFox]

We HAVE to do something. Current team salary is about $46 mil w/TRobb, but w/o JT. We have to add around $12 mill in salary to meet the min.

I believe that is the entire cap space. The team will be at the minimum after re-signing JT or any player at the mid level.

 

[upinsmoke]

Wilson Chandler is the most likely of all mentioned above and we have assets to get him maybe T-Rob+Hayes or Garcia(expiring) for Chandler but thats overpaying but im not sure how many other options we might have right now to balance the roster.

 

[sidney]

I'd still give Houston a call and see if IT + ? could get us anywhere near a Lowry swap.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Wilson Chandler is the most likely of all mentioned above and we have assets to get him maybe T-Rob+Hayes for Chandler but thats overpaying but im not sure how many other options we might have right now to balance the roster.

We're not going to trade Robinson for Chandler.

Denver has a bit of a wing glut, though, by taking two in the draft:
Gallinari
Chandler
C. Brewer
Afflalo
Jordan Hamilton
Evan Fournier
Quincy Miller

I wouldn't be shocked if we tried to get together a package for Chandler. But Robinson won't be a part of it.

 

[Kingster]

So what are the assets that we can deal to get a 3?

Thornton?
Tyreke? - but then you've got to replace the 2 as well as the 3, right?
Future #1 pick?
Sign and trade with Thompson?(I'll leave it to the gurus to say whether it's possible to do a sign and trade with Thompson before beginning of the season).
Salmons? - Does he have any trade value left?

 

[Jkbiker]

We HAVE to do something. Current team salary is about $46 mil w/TRobb, but w/o JT. We have to add around $12 mill in salary to meet the min.

I am so confused, when I add up salaries for 11 players (incl honeycutt 850k option) I get 44.3 mil

So 11 players 44.3
Trob 2.8
So we are at 47.1

Resign JT 4.2 to 6mil?

If at 6 then we have 13 players at 53mil and total cap avail of 5mil?

So unless there is a trade for a starting small forward only move left is 1-2 mil for T Will



I thought the Cap was around 58 mil
Last year we were at min at around 48 mil?

So I dont think we have to spend 12 mil to get to the MIN CAP

 

[Hoovtrain]

Just get Ilyasova and be done with it. He's a better shooter than Iggy or Batum. Tough dude. That's the end of the 3 charade if we get him. He provides the shooting and stability that we need at that position.

This is who i want. Great size and rebounding for a SF to go along with his shooting.

 

[Bricklayer]

I am so confused, when I add up salaries for 11 players (incl honeycutt 850k option) I get 44.3 mil

So 11 players 44.3
Trob 2.8
So we are at 47.1

Resign JT 4.2 to 6mil?

If at 6 then we have 13 players at 53mil and total cap avail of 5mil?

So unless there is a trade for a starting small forward only move left is 1-2 mil for T Will



I thought the Cap was around 58 mil
Last year we were at min at around 48 mil?

So I dont think we have to spend 12 mil to get to the MIN CAP

I think this is right:

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm
which would be $41.0 mil before Jason's Qualifying $$ and TRob's $2.8mil. Donte obviously is off the books now. So be $43.8mil pending the outcome of Jason's free agency, nd TWill's free agency. Cap is $58mil. Minimum salary is...? Not sure. Much closer to that cap than it used to be.

 

[Gilles]

Best NBA salary site
So in actuality it's $46,9 million the moment Robinson signs expected rookie deal. And then Thompson and, I hope, Williams, but Petrie only said a few general words about Williams in post-draft interview so I'm not holding my breath that he'll be back.

 

[Jkbiker]

I think this is right:

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm
which would be $41.0 mil before Jason's Qualifying $$ and TRob's $2.8mil. Donte obviously is off the books now. So be $43.8mil pending the outcome of Jason's free agency, nd TWill's free agency. Cap is $58mil. Minimum salary is...? Not sure. Much closer to that cap than it used to be.

If you take a calculator and check the total salary figure on hoopshype you will find the 41,040,876 is for nine players excuding Jimmer and honeycutts option, when you add Jimmer 2,406,240 and honeycutts option $850,000 you have 44,297,116 before Trob 2.812,200l and JT's qual offer of $4,129,766, so even with min Qual jt offer we would be at 51,239,082 for 13 players without TWill or any JT matching so we only have about 7 mil cap left and less if we have to match a jt offer

 

[Bricklayer]

If you take a calculator and check the total salary figure on hoopshype you will find the 41,040,876 is for nine players excuding Jimmer and honeycutts option, when you add Jimmer 2,406,240 and honeycutts option $850,000 you have 44,297,116 before Trob 2.812,200l and JT's qual offer of $4,129,766, so even with min Qual jt offer we would be at 51,239,082 for 13 players without TWill or any JT matching so we only have about 7 mil cap left and less if we have to match a jt offer

Neither Jimmer nor Honeycutt has an option? Looking one too far over?

 

[Jkbiker]

Neither Jimmer nor Honeycutt has an option? Looking one too far over?

Honeycutt has a team option, so prob why he was not included in the 41 mil total
but for some reason (a mistake) Jimmers salary was not included in the 41 mil total

 

[Hoovtrain]

SI had an article today giving kudos to PHI for drafting MH, and said it likely meant Iggy is on his way out. That could be a potential targer.

 

[funkykingston]

SI had an article today giving kudos to PHI for drafting MH, and said it likely meant Iggy is on his way out. That could be a potential targer.

Jimmer and Cisco (who is effectively an ending contract) for Iggy works via RealGM. I wonder if adding in a relatively unprotected 1st round pick would be enough to pique Philly's interest. Saves them money, gives them a chance to grab a player who at the very least can be a bench shooter and possibly more if he has a strong bounce back in his sophomore year and another draft pick to build on.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Jimmer and Cisco (who is effectively an ending contract) for Iggy works via RealGM. I wonder if adding in a relatively unprotected 1st round pick would be enough to pique Philly's interest. Saves them money, gives them a chance to grab a player who at the very least can be a bench shooter and possibly more if he has a strong bounce back in his sophomore year and another draft pick to build on.

Yeah, i was trying to come up with a scenerio where we could keep both Reke and Thornton. The one you presented would be a dream one.
Wonder if PHI would go for it.

 

[funkykingston]

Yeah, i was trying to come up with a scenerio where we could keep both Reke and Thornton. The one you presented would be a dream one.
Wonder if PHI would go for it.

The only thing I can take away from the near constant trickle of trade rumors about Iguodala is that Philly hates paying that bloated contract, which I can understand. If that is the case, I could definitely see a deal like the one above being enticing. Then again, even if it IS something the Sixers consider, the bigger question is whether the Maloofs would be willing to take on that salary. My guess is no.

 

[Gilles]

If you take a calculator and check the total salary figure on hoopshype you will find the 41,040,876 is for nine players excuding Jimmer and honeycutts option, when you add Jimmer 2,406,240 and honeycutts option $850,000 you have 44,297,116 before Trob 2.812,200l and JT's qual offer of $4,129,766, so even with min Qual jt offer we would be at 51,239,082 for 13 players without TWill or any JT matching so we only have about 7 mil cap left and less if we have to match a jt offer

I just realised that my link to http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/resources/Sacramento.htm is not really visible in previous post.
1. Hoopshype numbers are a little bullish: Thornton will make $107,500 less, Jimmer - $66,800 less, Honeycutt - $40,125 less and Whiteside - $7,082 more.
2. Qualifying offers are not usually included in team salary since they rarely become players' salary for the year. So Kings have around $46,900,000 on payroll, plus expected contract of Thompson and, I hope, Terrence Williams.