So What FA do you give the max to match our new #2 Pick

[ESP47]

First of all, absolutely no on any free agent centers. Willy is basically 80% what Capela is, Joegers system just doesnt utilize athletic rim running center the way Rockets do. We dont have four guys spacing the floor and run 1-5 pick n roll over and over again.

At the moment we have three young centers: Willy, Giles and Skal. All of them potentially capable offering 80-90% of Capelas production when utilized correctly. No reason to waste valuable cap space on another center.

Also there are oversupply on centers at the moment and you can get quality production for minimal cost. On the other hand there are very few athletic 3&d versatile wings so if we want to put our resources somewhere it should be for a guy like that.

All this might be a moot point since we insisted on wasting cap last free agency so most likely we should just take in bad salary and gain assets

I think you're doing what a few people are doing around here. Concentrating on Capela's offensive game, which mainly consists of lobs from Paul and Harden, while ignoring his defensive and rebounding game, which is light years ahead of anyone we have on this roster.

Giles is the only one who has a chance at getting to within 80-90% of Capela as a complete player.

I'm not advocating signing Capela but he gets 4 more rebounds and an extra block a game over WCS. He's a real starting center whereas our guys are backups.

 

[Joshoua]

I don't get the fascination with Hezonja. Please explain it to me.

Well when he was given a chance in Orlando he looked like a good player. He’s young and plays the right way which is non ball dominate, good shooter, good passer, and can work in pick and rolls

Kid is 22 and showed promise and take my chances on him over JJ

 

[ESP47]

Well when he was given a chance in Orlando he looked like a good player. He’s young and plays the right way which is non ball dominate, good shooter, good passer, and can work in pick and rolls

Kid is 22 and showed promise and take my chances on him over JJ

Yeah I think it's just the idea that he should come cheap and has shown flashes of potential. I don't think anyone here is looking to break the bank on him. More like take a flier and see what happens.

 

[Joshoua]

Yeah I think it's just the idea that he should come cheap and has shown flashes of potential. I don't think anyone here is looking to break the bank on him. More like take a flier and see what happens.

Exactly 5-8mill and a starting SF spot not like we have much option unless we land Doncic

 

[YoungBlood]

Capela may be fools gold on offense due to him being on a great team with amazing passers, but his defense is the best thing about him anyway

 

[Gguod]

I think you're doing what a few people are doing around here. Concentrating on Capela's offensive game, which mainly consists of lobs from Paul and Harden, while ignoring his defensive and rebounding game, which is light years ahead of anyone we have on this roster.

Giles is the only one who has a chance at getting to within 80-90% of Capela as a complete player.

I'm not advocating signing Capela but he gets 4 more rebounds and an extra block a game over WCS. He's a real starting center whereas our guys are backups.

Willy is ~80% of what Capela is on both ends. Capela is better rim protector and Willy is better at switching on guards. Rebounding is the only thing Capela is much better on. The biggest difference offensively is Joegers outdated no-spacing system.

The main point is that because there is oversupply on centers, you can get quality production for minimal cost. So no reason to use valuable cap space to max out Capela. Plus we have three young centers of our own. The cap space will be used much better elsewhere.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Well when he was given a chance in Orlando he looked like a good player. He’s young and plays the right way which is non ball dominate, good shooter, good passer, and can work in pick and rolls

Kid is 22 and showed promise and take my chances on him over JJ

Don’t let John Galt hear you say that

 

[Hoovtrain]

Capela may be fools gold on offense due to him being on a great team with amazing passers, but his defense is the best thing about him anyway

Yes, and that’s why you can’t say he’s fools gold imo . His D and rebounding are legit

 

[ESP47]

Willy is ~80% of what Capela is on both ends. Capela is better rim protector and Willy is better at switching on guards. Rebounding is the only thing Capela is much better on. The biggest difference offensively is Joegers outdated no-spacing system.

The main point is that because there is oversupply on centers, you can get quality production for minimal cost. So no reason to use valuable cap space to max out Capela. Plus we have three young centers of our own. The cap space will be used much better elsewhere.

I fully agree with you that we don't need to spend anymore money on big men. I just don't see WCS as high as you do. I think he's 60% of Capela because Capela switches out on guards really well for his size and rebounds at a much much higher rate. I don't think Willie is better at anything other than shooting mid range jumpers which I think is actually a net negative overall because it's not a good shot for any offense.

 

[Sac.1989]

id bring cousins back in a heartbeat with our current solid supporting cast

 

[Padrino]

id bring cousins back in a heartbeat with our current solid supporting cast

Eh, I don’t think you can really entertain bringing Cousins back, at this point. I was as big a Boogie booster as any on KF.com, but ultimately, the Kings wasted their chance to win with him. As much as I loved Demarcus, even I was adamant that the Kings should try to maximize his trade value. That they publicly promised to re-sign him and then almost immediately turned around and shipped him out for Buddy Hield is still a source of consternation for me. It certainly wasn’t what I had in mind. But you can’t look back. What’s done is done. Insert other wistful cliches here.

More to the point, though, Cousins’ attitude was always tricky to manage, and on the heels of an ACL tear, with a minimal chance of successfully returning to the player he once was, it’s easy to imagine his frustrations manifesting themselves negatively on a young team like the Kings that just needs to move on. I love Boogie, but I’d hate to be the team that has to deal with the possibility of an ineffective Cousins pulling his teammates down with him. He’s got a lot to prove still, and I hope he’s a future best case scenario for rehabbing a torn ACL, but let another franchise roll those dice (as I appear to be fond of saying these days).

 

[VF21]

So lets assume Garrett Temple does the kings a favor and opts out of his contract for 8 mil
Maybe hire as a coach?

and we then end up with 24 mil in cap space

Lets also assume we get Either Ayton or Luka at #2 (Depending on Suns)

Who do you go after to Match up with our #2 on July 1

For me? If Luca - go after Clint capela (Suns will already have Ayton)

If Ayton - Max out offer sheets to Jabari Parker, then Gordon, then try to trade Zbo,/WCS for Otto Porter

Considering Temple's value to the Kings on and off the court and his commitment to the city and the team, I don't see him opting out.

 

[VF21]

id bring cousins back in a heartbeat with our current solid supporting cast

There is pretty much NO WAY IN HELL Cousins would return to Sacramento. Why? One word. LOYALTY.

 

[HndsmCelt]

Capela may be fools gold on offense due to him being on a great team with amazing passers, but his defense is the best thing about him anyway

You make a strong case paring Cappella up with Bogie, Doncic, Fox and Giles!

 

[Gary]

Otto Porter if we get Ayton... Hell, I would even want to get IT back in Sac. I never wanted him to leave.

If we get Doncic then I would probably go with Nurkic, and move Bogdan to SG for most of the time. Toss out Buddy Hield on the trade market?

 

[mac]

Otto Porter if we get Ayton... Hell, I would even want to get IT back in Sac. I never wanted him to leave.

If we get Doncic then I would probably go with Nurkic, and move Bogdan to SG for most of the time. Toss out Buddy Hield on the trade market?

Why?!!! Nobody wants IT anymore

 

[The_Jamal]

Why?!!! Nobody wants IT anymore

Even I, defender of all things IT on this forum, don't want him back anymore. No use with Fox, he might be broken, and he's not in our timeline to win

 

[Joshoua]

Otto Porter if we get Ayton... Hell, I would even want to get IT back in Sac. I never wanted him to leave.

If we get Doncic then I would probably go with Nurkic, and move Bogdan to SG for most of the time. Toss out Buddy Hield on the trade market?

Host no to Nurkic he’ll destroy our defense in the playoffs. Big plotting bigs aren’t playing in the 4th there rendered useless now add in Nurkic weak post game and he can’t punish small balls

 

[Hoovtrain]

FYI ...cousins didn’t tear his ACL...it was his Achilles

 

[ParniValjak]

id bring cousins back in a heartbeat with our current solid supporting cast

That is not going to happen for a whole range of reasons.

- All the bridges were burnt there even with DMC having different management group now
- DMC is just coming off a torn achilles which for a big guy is especially worrisome
- Given the injury, DMC will be looking for a big pay day and would most likely go to any team that offers him a max. I think there is a pretty good chance he ends up a Laker.

 

[mac]

That is not going to happen for a whole range of reasons.

- All the bridges were burnt there even with DMC having different management group now
- DMC is just coming off a torn achilles which for a big guy is especially worrisome
- Given the injury, DMC will be looking for a big pay day and would most likely go to any team that offers him a max. I think there is a pretty good chance he ends up a Laker.

Team him up with IT and I wish them the best of luck while we whoop them

 

[VF21]

Otto Porter if we get Ayton... Hell, I would even want to get IT back in Sac. I never wanted him to leave.

If we get Doncic then I would probably go with Nurkic, and move Bogdan to SG for most of the time. Toss out Buddy Hield on the trade market?

Oh please. That ship sailed eons ago. It hit a reef and sank. There were no survivors.

 

[VF21]

That is not going to happen for a whole range of reasons.

- All the bridges were burnt there even with DMC having different management group now
- DMC is just coming off a torn achilles which for a big guy is especially worrisome
- Given the injury, DMC will be looking for a big pay day and would most likely go to any team that offers him a max. I think there is a pretty good chance he ends up a Laker.

Nope. Not gonna happen. DMC values and honors loyalty above all else. It's not primarily about a paycheck with him - never has been. I'd be willing to bet almost anything he stays in New Orleans, regardless of what may have happened on Instagram.

 

[ParniValjak]

Nope. Not gonna happen. DMC values and honors loyalty above all else. It's not primarily about a paycheck with him - never has been. I'd be willing to bet almost anything he stays in New Orleans, regardless of what may have happened on Instagram.

Before the injury, I would agree 100%. Since the injury, I am not so sure especially since he didn't get his MAX money with the Kings. He was pretty shattered when Rudy snapped his achilles and said how its his career.

In normal circumstances DMC would have valued loyalty but thing might have changed. He might never be the same player again and that might be influencing his decision. I certainly would not rule out the Lakers.

On NO, if when don't offer him the max allowable contract, knowing Cuz, he will take that as an insult.

 

[Gary]

Hey hey now.. I still like IT and what he did in Boston. He's a fun player to watch. If there was a way to get him on the cheap I would bring him in. I am not saying we should really pursue him or anything. Just one of those things, if he falls into our lap for cheap, then I wouldn't mind bringing him back.

 

[pdizo916]

Isn't Jokic a FA. There's no way he's leaving DEN but that's the only young player I would offer a max too. Other than that, they need to utilize their salary cap to absorb bad contracts with a 1st round pick attached to it.

 

[mac]

Hey hey now.. I still like IT and what he did in Boston. He's a fun player to watch. If there was a way to get him on the cheap I would bring him in. I am not saying we should really pursue him or anything. Just one of those things, if he falls into our lap for cheap, then I wouldn't mind bringing him back.

Not worth the locker room getting destroyed

 

[Mike]

Isn't Jokic a FA. There's no way he's leaving DEN but that's the only young player I would offer a max too. Other than that, they need to utilize their salary cap to absorb bad contracts with a 1st round pick attached to it.

It depends on what Denver do. If they take the team option for 18-19, which is very cheap, he'll become an unrestricted free agent in 2019. However, if they decline his team option he'll be a restricted free agent in 2018. I've not heard anything about whether they've take his option or not, but it makes sense for them to decline it and extend him now rather than run the risk of losing him next year.

 

[Sac.1989]

There is pretty much NO WAY IN HELL Cousins would return to Sacramento. Why? One word. LOYALTY.

Doesnt mean we shouldnt come to our senses and try

 

[Sac.1989]

Eh, I don’t think you can really entertain bringing Cousins back, at this point. I was as big a Boogie booster as any on KF.com, but ultimately, the Kings wasted their chance to win with him. As much as I loved Demarcus, even I was adamant that the Kings should try to maximize his trade value. That they publicly promised to re-sign him and then almost immediately turned around and shipped him out for Buddy Hield is still a source of consternation for me. It certainly wasn’t what I had in mind. But you can’t look back. What’s done is done. Insert other wistful cliches here.

More to the point, though, Cousins’ attitude was always tricky to manage, and on the heels of an ACL tear, with a minimal chance of successfully returning to the player he once was, it’s easy to imagine his frustrations manifesting themselves negatively on a young team like the Kings that just needs to move on. I love Boogie, but I’d hate to be the team that has to deal with the possibility of an ineffective Cousins pulling his teammates down with him. He’s got a lot to prove still, and I hope he’s a future best case scenario for rehabbing a torn ACL, but let another franchise roll those dice (as I appear to be fond of saying these days).

Cousins is still entering his prime. He really never was an above the rim player or athletic beast. He has an old mans game. I really see him having no issues returning from injury.

Clint Capella is about to get the max, i mean seriously. Demarcus Cousins is the best center in the league by far. Still to this day.