So Brad thinks we are FAIRWEATHER FANS..........

[VF21]

Rather I did or not, if Brad thinks we're fairweather fans then he needs to pack his bags and get the hell out of here! I don't care what anyone says I have to bust my a** to get these tickets I'm not a rich person I'm not normal either this is Insulting to alot of King fans.. Brad I hate to say this needs to STFU.

YOU DON"T KNOW everything that happened. You have, in fact, taken a couple of words "fairweather fan" and turned it into a diatribe about how you have to bust your butt to pay for tickets.

Dude, take a breath.

This isn't the FIRST TIME Mike Lamb and Grant Napear have tried to make a really big mountain out of something like this.

What exactly is it that you find so insulting? Notice the word "exactly". How can you possibly be this angry when you don't even know what was said? In what context? Part of a clip does NOT tell the whole story. It's like the clip of Bonzi talking about Peja that sounded really bad until you heard/read the whole thing. Who put out the misconception? THE MEDIA.

This is just silly.

 

[VF21]

Primer on KHTK and virtually any other radio station that carries sports talk shows:

1. They love controversy. They LIVE for controversy. They will play clips to rile people up so they call.
2. They have call screeners. Those screeners pick the people who will meet the needs of the hosts.
3. Grant Napear may be the voice of the Kings for Comcast, but he is not a Kings fan. He says what people want to hear. Hence the incongruity between Grant the Homer during games and Grant the Hard-Hitting Sports Reporter during HIS show.
4. The Maloofs do not own KHTK. They do not control what comes out of the mouths of Mike Lamb or Grant Napear, nor would they want to. Quite frankly, this is a tempest in a teapot and anyone who would get this upset over something this silly is exactly the type of person Grant wants to call in, so he can either agree with him OR, if it's on the other side of the coin, call him an idiot and hang up on him.

Worst case scenario: Brad, upset over the booing and the criticism leveled at him and the rest of the team from everywhere, is asked a question that causes him to say something about "fairweather fans." What is the real problem? YOu can't stand being called a "fairweather fan"? Why? If the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn't, he wasn't talking about you...

Good lord...

 

[Smart_guy3]

Until it was a quote taking out of context then I will be frustrated I'm sorry but this is making me just to upset right now how can Brad say such a thing? I'm sorry I have to hope this was taken out of Context or else I just might boo Brad.

 

[VF21]

If you boo Brad over something like this, then you are the stereotypical "fairweather fan."

I've had my say. I am not going to continue to be drawn into this because it's just ridiculous. What a sorry state of affairs it's come to when this is the heated topic of the day...

 

[LMM]

I am still having a hard time with the self-righteous shock and dismay at a fan raining boos down on the team and then being called fairweather by a player. I mean, has anybody ever heard of "don't dish it out if you can't take it?"

YOu can't stand being called a "fairweather fan"? Why? If the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn't, he wasn't talking about you...

exactly.

 

[Danny Ocean]

You guys who think its no big deal are just a bunch of bandwaggoners. Just what ive seen during my short time at this board.

 

[Smart_guy3]

If you boo Brad over something like this, then you are the stereotypical "fairweather fan."

I'm gonna boo because I can I'm gonna boo because I want him to know how he made alot us ( King fans, ) upset...

If no one confirms this was out of context I'm going to Boo.

 

[LMM]

You guys who think its no big deal are just a bunch of bandwaggoners. Just what ive seen during my short time at this board.

^^ yeah.. we're bandwagonners..

please..

 

[VF21]

Danny Ocean - I knew you'd give yourself away ... again.

Wave goodbye to the nice folks. Third time a charm ... and all that.

 

[VF21]

I'm gonna boo because I can I'm gonna boo because I want him to know how he made alot us ( King fans, ) upset...

If no one confirms this was out of context I'm going to Boo.

I have it on a reliable source that Brad was most likely goaded into making the statement with a loaded question or two before the clip.

I wouldn't be so quick to boo.

 

[BMiller52]

You guys who think its no big deal are just a bunch of bandwaggoners. Just what ive seen during my short time at this board.

A bandwaggoner supports a team not doing well... learn what bandwaggoner means please.

 

[fishgirl]

I personally give Brad the benefit of the doubt. I personally haven't heard the whole story - and I mean whole - behind those words he said, and I do not personally know Brad, either, but I think it's easily attributable to frustration and probably disgruntlement over how the team has been faring so far. I mean, he might've been provoked to say what he did. :shrugs: I'm not taking it to heart, and I don't think we really should, because we do know we're not "fair-weather fans." Okay, well, that might well be a generalization, but I mean, like VF said, these players are human, just like we are. We're allowed to express our opinions and say what we feel, even if it's in the heat of the moment and you inadvertently say stupid things. What makes Brad any different? Seriously, there are bigger issues than this.

 

[VF21]

A bandwaggoner supports a team not doing well... learn what bandwaggoner means please.

Every single Sacramento Kings fan - with the exception of NK64, who followed the team in Kansas City - is a bandwagon fan.

We all jumped onto the bandwagon at some point. None of us were born on it, at least not to my knowledge...

Memo to self: Find out if anyone has ever actually been born at Arco during a game...

Some of us may have seats closer to the front, with a little better view, but we're all on the same wagon.

At least until some of us are kicked off.

 

[frankie]

Can someone explain to us non-native english speakers what does fairweather mean? In other words, what makes it insulting?

 

[BMiller52]

Can someone explain to us non-native english speakers what does fairweather mean? In other words, what makes it insulting?

People who only cheer when the team is good and hate on them when they do badly.

 

[goggles99]

I am still having a hard time with the self-righteous shock and dismay at a fan raining boos down on the team and then being called fairweather by a player. I mean, has anybody ever heard of "don't dish it out if you can't take it?"

Now everybody on both sides has vented. time to get back to more important things, which for Brad and the team would be showing that they are capable of more than just going throught the motions.

(Just as an aside, we really could use a 100% of the time energizer bunny/sparkplug on this team.)

People who only cheer when the team is good and hate on them when they do badly.

I agree with these 2 posts 100%, many of you ARE fairweather fans. Booing your own team, talking down on them, and talking about wanting to trade them constantly on this/other boards.

Did your WIDDLE FEEWINGS GET HUWT? by Brad telling the truth about how he feels? his reaction to the fans actions.... Stop being so SOFT.

Props to Brad for calling out you who are exactly what the said that you are. Do you think that these players WANT to lose every night. Do you think that they ENJOY getting it handed to them? Do they WANT to win. If you think not then you need to re-evaluate yourself.

 

[thesanityannex]

I've called Miller much worse than fairweathered.

 

[KP]

Brads right the fans at ARCO have been sub-par and living on reputation for a couple of years now. Most of the real Kings fans have been priced out by this point. They couldn't even stay in there seats for a whole playoff game a couple of years ago... and there is a mass exodus every game about halfway through the 4th quarter, it hasn't been the same for a while.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

... Worst case scenario: Brad, upset over the booing and the criticism leveled at him and the rest of the team from everywhere, is asked a question that causes him to say something about "fairweather fans."

Actually, the worst-case scenario in this circumstance would probably be if Miller has been harboring these feelings for some time, wasn't taken out of context, and said what he did out of contempt for the fans...

 

[kingsfan52miller]

I have it on a reliable source that Brad was most likely goaded into making the statement with a loaded question or two before the clip.

I wouldn't be so quick to boo.

I hope the fans dont boo him....and isnt brad on grant and mikes show and when ever i listen they always kiss his a** so to me showing that clip on KHTK is disrespect for brad. i know they he said that sacramento Fair weather fans. but nobody has a quote yet. Personally if i was brad i wouldnt do their show anymore. I think some people may be over reacting

 

[GoGoGadget]

I'm sorry. I must have missed the part where Brad Miller mentioned me or any of the fans I know.

You missed the entire quote, then.

In the clip that I heard, Brad clearly said, "People who boo are fairweather fans, and VF21 is a meanie poo-poo head."

 

[The Hammer]

Until it was a quote taking out of context then I will be frustrated I'm sorry but this is making me just to upset right now how can Brad say such a thing? I'm sorry I have to hope this was taken out of Context or else I just might boo Brad.

I think your upset about other things.

 

[VF21]

You missed the entire quote, then.

In the clip that I heard, Brad clearly said, "People who boo are fairweather fans, and VF21 is a meanie poo-poo head."

Oh, that's different.

It is sooooo on.

Where's my pitchfork?

And what did I do with the kerosene-soaked torch???

 

[The Hammer]

People who only cheer when the team is good and hate on them when they do badly.

I think more acurately, a fair weather fan is someone who cheers for a team when they are doing good, but then when the tide turns and the team is unpopular, then they jump ship and don't even care.

In New York, if you DON'T boo when your team does bad your not considered a loyal fan!

Sometimes people pay money to go to a game for the sole purpose of BOOING! Now that's loyalty!

 

[GoGoGadget]

Memo to self: Find out if anyone has ever actually been born at Arco during a game...

Well, there was that one time at Arco when I...

wait...

that wouldn't count anyway.

Nevermind.

 

[SacTownKid]

I would certainly give Brad the benefit of the doubt before jumping straight to the conclusion that he's badmouthing all fans.

You don't know the whole context. It could quite easily be something about the few fans who are ready to dump the team, who are booing at every game, etc.

I am NOT about to start badmouthing one of our own over something like this. Remember who MIKE LAMB is and how little regard he has for US or the KINGS before you take his word on anything.

Talk shows exist for controversy. If they can get people riled up and calling in, their ratings improve. Slimey? Yep. But it happens all the time.

Brad Miller has NEVER said anything disrespectful about us before. If, out of frustration, he made a comment then I certainly think he should be allowed the same forgiveness we give each other when we say something out of anger that we really don't mean.

Yes! You can NEVER FULLY TRUST THE MEDIA!!!! Especially the Sacramento media as of late.

 

[kingsfan52miller]

AGREED!!.....and look at this board, does it look like class act fan boad right now??

 

[keflanag]

Regardless if this quote was taken out of context or not, Brad is absolutely right about 90% of the fans that have been at Arco this year. The crowd is completely reactionary now. If they do well, the crowd cheers, if they do poorly the crowd is silent, boos, or leaves. There are a few exceptions, but this is the MAJORITY of the fans at the games. I remember a few years ago if the Kings were playing like crap and down by 15, the crowd would start APPLAUDING when the Kings brought the ball up the court. The crowd would show that they supported them and tried to inspire the team. And how many times did the team get down double digits and then the crowd would pull them out of it. There has only been one game so far that that has happened this year, and that was Toronto. If the crowd requires the team to play well to cheer for them then that takes away the home court advantage 100%. What's the excuse for why it is dead silent before tip off. Why can I hear the opposing coach calling out plays up in Row N in Section 214. The fans are not showing support when the team is playing poorly. THAT, my friends, sounds like fair weather fans.

 

[QueensFan]

Regardless if this quote was taken out of context or not, Brad is absolutely right about 90% of the fans that have been at Arco this year. The crowd is completely reactionary now. If they do well, the crowd cheers, if they do poorly the crowd is silent, boos, or leaves. There are a few exceptions, but this is the MAJORITY of the fans at the games. I remember a few years ago if the Kings were playing like crap and down by 15, the crowd would start APPLAUDING when the Kings brought the ball up the court. The crowd would show that they supported them and tried to inspire the team. And how many times did the team get down double digits and then the crowd would pull them out of it. There has only been one game so far that that has happened this year, and that was Toronto. If the crowd requires the team to play well to cheer for them then that takes away the home court advantage 100%. What's the excuse for why it is dead silent before tip off. Why can I hear the opposing coach calling out plays up in Row N in Section 214. The fans are not showing support when the team is playing poorly. THAT, my friends, sounds like fair weather fans.

Completely irrelevant. If the Kings want only real diehards at the game, then they should make all the tickets $10 and put them on sale at 3:30AM the morning of the game.

The NBA is a business and the fans are its customers. REGARDLESS of how the Kings fans act, the players are ethically OBLIGATED to put forth their best effort in trying to win games and put on a good show. Even if the fans at Arco truly are being "fairweather," Brad has no right to criticize his customers when his play and effort have clearly been lacking.

I applaud VF21's caution as it is true that things like these are often taken out of context and it is easy to get swept up into a furor, but if he meant it the way it sounded, I am truly insulted. Customers stop doing business with people who treat them like that.

 

[SacTownKid]

When the product stinks primarily do to lack of effort are we supposed to grit our teeth and bear it? I mean, I'll be honest, they way things have been lately on the court, fans showing there displeasure shouldn't be frowned upon as greatly as it is in my opinion.

Brad can say what he wants, we can say what we want. IF he did in any way say the fans of Sacramento or the ones that boo, it is a bad, bad PR move. Especially at the current time.

Wow, just so much negative energy around this team lately. Its almost like its been sabotaged.