Purple Reign
Starter
After that hard foul against Shaq and compared to the other suspensions in the 2006 NBA Playoffs, should Jerry Stackhouse be suspended for Game 5?
Should Jerry Stackhouse be Suspended
- Thread starter Purple Reign
- Start date
I could only watch the first half intermittently and missed this... is video available somewhere?
jeffjcalweb
G-League
based on the previous suspensions we've seen in this year's playoffs, how can he NOT be suspended for what he did? it would be a total joke if the league didn't suspend him.
There have been a few curious non-suspensions as well though.
loopymitch
All-Star
I think he should. This is the finals and if they're going to suspend people in the earlier rounds, they should really crack down in this series.
kingsgurl87
Bench
I heard he was suspended but I'm trying to find a link
kupman
Starter
ezekielbear
Bench
Last edited:
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well I think he had to be. Diesel or not, Stack pretty much just threw a full speed high shoulder block with little if any pretense of going for the ball. It was dirty. I'm not particularly offended by its dirtiness, but it was definitely dirty, and if you're going to do that, got to pay the piper.
I've now seen the replay a couple thousand times and I vote yes based on the precedent that has already been set. This was definitely one of the harder fouls that has drawn a suspension this postseason.
I still think the NBA has been a little too harsh with suspensions lately and wish they would stop suspending players in the playoffs for hard fouls with no deliberate attempt to injure, but this was as deserving as all the others.
I still think the NBA has been a little too harsh with suspensions lately and wish they would stop suspending players in the playoffs for hard fouls with no deliberate attempt to injure, but this was as deserving as all the others.
bballagrl24
Bench
I'm in favor of the Heat in this series; I hope they win. But honestly, I didn't think it was that big of a deal...yea, it was a hard foul and he deserved that flagrant, but a suspension? I don't think he deserved it. It's the Finals...it's supposed to get rough and tough. Even Shaq and Pat Riley downplayed it saying that it was just a hard foul...Shaq even saying that his daughter tackles him harder...lol.
DocHolliday
Starter
Absolutely not. He did not go at Shaq to intentionally throw him to the ground. His arm didn't even come down. He was running to catch up to him and his forward progress carried him into Shaq like that. It was a smart play, Shaq slamming to the floor was not intentional or intended.
Last edited:
aloha_bruddah
Prospect
as much as i hate shaq, had it been anyone else, stack would have 'crushed' him, so think if shaq went reeling, think of what a smaller person would have done. AND the creme de la creme, the league needed a easy excuse to stick it to Cuban, so ahahhahahaha, guess what........betcha Cuban's doing a slow burn, right now.....oh well..............
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Oh no, he lowered the shoulder for the boom. I never doubted intent after seeing the replay. It was a football block.
Just a question whether it was worthy of a suspension.
Would like to see a replay if somebody has the tech. The shot from the baseline was very clear.
DocHolliday
Starter
See they showed the reply right after the replay. The announcers even agreed that the outcome was not intentional. I mean if he lowered his shoulder a little, come on it's Stackhouse against Shaq. Stackhouse is a toothpick comparatively. He did not intend for it to do that. He intended for it to knock him off course a little. And, it wasn't contact above the shoulders, which is an automatic suspension.
Arco Arena
Bench
here's a link to the video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-CCknwBTQBk
dunno bout flagrant 2.. but the way the nba has been suspending people these playoffs..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-CCknwBTQBk
dunno bout flagrant 2.. but the way the nba has been suspending people these playoffs..
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I as a rule don't have a huge problem with clobbering people. Always been willing to do it myself to send a message. But if you make that choice, then you can't sit around and complain if the suspension comes down. Its from the same school as the Posey suspension for slamming into Heinrich. I would rather they didn't suspend that stuff -- indeed it blurs the line tremendously between a flagrant and a suspension. But if that's the line that's been drawn, then just don't do it. Ramming somebody with your shoulder isn't a basketball related play. Its good ole fashioned thuggery. And while I like thuggery, I have practiced thuggery, and I believe thugging somebody can be a great way to separate the men from the boys when you are playing somebody, if its not allowed you don't have much of a leg to stand on when you practice it + then get suspended for it.
All fouls ruled flagrant are worthy of suspension. Even if the recipient of the foul had it coming.
KevinMartinsGirl23
Bench
I think in the older days of the NBA that play would have been alright, but he has to be suspended to stay consistant with the other questionable suspensions during the playoffs, starting with the Artest elbow...
The way I see it Artest's elbow was debateable, and I think it was the first suspension issued in the playoffs. So that set the precedent (and it was a bad one, imho). Then came a lot of other hard fouls that had to be suspended because of the precedent, but very few of those were as hard as this one.
So if you're a fan of old time basketball you're alarmed at all the suspensions being doled out, but if you're looking for consistency, this one is a no-brainer.
So if you're a fan of old time basketball you're alarmed at all the suspensions being doled out, but if you're looking for consistency, this one is a no-brainer.
Pretty much. That was just a good, solid, old-school foul. No bad intentions, but was not going to allow Shaq to get the shot up. He made a half-hearted play for the ball at least.
That, in fact, DID make it worse. It doesn't matter if it's Shaquille O'Neal or Earl Boykins. When a player is in the air like that, being hit by a flying shoulder is clearly a flagrant foul. And the fact there was likely some payback intention in mind had to be considered. I applaud the league office for their consistency, if nothing else.
