ockingsfan
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Don't forget casspi (40% on threes) and collison 16 ppg last year.
The kings will be very entertaining and I think very competitive this year.
Seth Curry signed by Kings
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Don't forget casspi (40% on threes) and collison 16 ppg last year.
The kings will be very entertaining and I think very competitive this year.
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KingMilz
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I said earlier in another thread I don't think Dre wants to be a 3rd PG on a team with no chance of winning a title, he's the type of player who always wants to play and as pointed out by others with Rondo here he was not really needed.
I like the fact we signed Curry we now have a pass first PG (Rondo), a defensive guy who can chip in (Collison) and now a lights out shooter. I got a gut feeling Dre will be the back up PG/mentor for the Lakers Russell/Clarkson
As far as the Jimmer comparison I never remember Jimmer playing as well as Seth did at the SL level.
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The Hammer
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We can even trout out more balanced experienced line up and still have a ton of spacing.
Collison
Belinelli
Casspi (better 3pt % than BMac)
Gay
Cousins
Power of riches... felt weird typing that regarding Kings
The Hammer
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We can even trout out more balanced experienced line up and still have a ton of spacing.
Collison
Belinelli
Casspi (better 3pt % than BMac)
Gay
Cousins
Power of riches... felt weird typing that regarding Kings
True. We all the sudden have a crap ton of shooting.
I think Ben will really come into form this year. But I think we'll have 4-5 40% ish 3 pt shooters: Casspi, Ben, Butler, Belinelli, and Curry. And then 3 35% ish: Gay, Collison, Anderson. Damn.
Bricklayer
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Hating on Jimmer maybe. Seth hasn't proven he's even NBA caliber yet.
And its not extreme. Its in fact the least ambitious thing we did all summer, unless you count the comedy signing of Wisconsin's walkon. This is very much the move we have been making for 10 years now. Ooh diamond in the rough! cheap! young! ooh! yeah, you know what happened to 99% of gold panners back in the day? They never found spit and ended up broke and freezing their asses off.
In any case, this summer the exciting parts were precisely NOT the parts where we started taking what the hell longshots on scrubs again. It was when we were ambitious enough to stick our nose in and actually wrestle out the sorts of experienced accomplished "boring" vets that the top teams routinely stack up and beat us with every year.
But because we had that truly exciting period, throwing a contract at Seth Curry's kid brother is not as eye roilling as it would have been in past years and could be safe. And if you were going to sign somebody out of Summer League, Curry was the guy other teams were looking at too. Its the way the system is supposed to work. If we can just please please have some injury luck then there is no oncourt downside and a potential upside if he works out. On the other hand, we have absolutely NO room for error this season, and until very recently all of Vlade's moves seemed to reflect his understanding of that situation. And the way this could become a problem is if we get screwed by injuries again. One injury to either of our 2 PGs and unless we try to swing Belinelli or more likely Anderson (who struggled with it in Summer League) over to the PG, our backup PG would become a 25yr old journeyman with 21 minutes of NBA action under his belt. I am jealously guarding any such vulnerability, because nothing can be allowed to scuttle us this year. We were in safer hands with a vet, just as we came up one legit PF shy. As long as we can just stay healthy neither thing may matter. But its another potential chink in the armor, and this is a combat season we have to win this time.
I believe Kevin Seraphin and Darrell Arthur are still available. Those are two young veteran PFs that I wouldn't mind the Kings going after. Because right now our presumed big man rotation is Cousins, Koufos and Cauley-Stein. Which means the Kings will have to count on a rookie to produce right away. And it also means either Acy or Moreland will get meaningful minutes and are an injury away from being a primary backup. I'm more concerned with that than Curry as the 3rd PG.
I assumed all along that Dre would be the 3rd PG but thinking about it more the rap on him has always been that he grouses when he doesn't get consistent minutes. And barring an injury to Rondo and/or Collison he would have likely racked up DNPs with the Kings. Even though Miller is a great fit with Karl coaching, the team can't afford to have any disruptive forces even minor ones, something Miller has shown a tendency to be when riding the bench too much for his liking.
And the Curry signing is a page out of Pop's book as the Spurs have often had backup or 3rd PGs who were great shooters from Kerr to Patty Mills and Cory Joseph.
I assumed all along that Dre would be the 3rd PG but thinking about it more the rap on him has always been that he grouses when he doesn't get consistent minutes. And barring an injury to Rondo and/or Collison he would have likely racked up DNPs with the Kings. Even though Miller is a great fit with Karl coaching, the team can't afford to have any disruptive forces even minor ones, something Miller has shown a tendency to be when riding the bench too much for his liking.
And the Curry signing is a page out of Pop's book as the Spurs have often had backup or 3rd PGs who were great shooters from Kerr to Patty Mills and Cory Joseph.
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That's possible but if you do not guarantee him we will probably lose him for nothing. So it depends.
One and Done
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Nice pickup. We're talking third guard here, so not super impactful but I like the upside.
I've been following Seth since there was a feature article on "Steph's little brother at Liberty" who was another unheard-of school's scoring phenom. He's proven to be a great shooter, albeit much more one-dimensional vs. his older brother. He can play PG in a small pinch, but he's much better off the ball. He tries hard on defense and has good instincts, but he's athletically and physically limited there - not Stauskas/Jimmer bad though, IMO, but he'll get burned his first season or two once he gets some true NBA minutes.
At best, he'll come off the bench and score in droves in limited minutes, without killing the offensive ball movement too much. And there's always the PR, which Vivek loves. Not too bad of a pickup.
I've been following Seth since there was a feature article on "Steph's little brother at Liberty" who was another unheard-of school's scoring phenom. He's proven to be a great shooter, albeit much more one-dimensional vs. his older brother. He can play PG in a small pinch, but he's much better off the ball. He tries hard on defense and has good instincts, but he's athletically and physically limited there - not Stauskas/Jimmer bad though, IMO, but he'll get burned his first season or two once he gets some true NBA minutes.
At best, he'll come off the bench and score in droves in limited minutes, without killing the offensive ball movement too much. And there's always the PR, which Vivek loves. Not too bad of a pickup.
We could actually make him one of our designated D-League players. But really, it's not like we need to panic over potentially losing control of David Stockton. He's a replacement-level player at best.
David Stockton is not, unfortunately, ever going to be his father. He has the IQ, but not the skills, ability or inherent toughness. Can you imagine DAVID taking the hit his dad did on that wicked pick Chris Webber set? They'd have to stop the game to pick up the pieces.
Big Cuz 15
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we could sign em both and have em wear the same #s as the real splash bros. doesn't get as close to the real splash bros as that
I agree.
The signing is ok, but I think that people who is calling him our 3rd PG are forgetting that he isn't a PG... sure you can put him there from time to time, but his position is SG and he is way better off the ball.
He is short for a shooting guard and have a small body so people assume he is a PG- but I don't think that's his positiom.
You could keep Stockton who is a PG but then I'd rather us use Curry as the 3rd PG as he actually has a chance to be competent at the NBA level as a shooter. He's definitely going tobe a PG in name only....more of a shooter who can space the floor
kingsboi
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While that may be the case, that doesn't necessarily mean he will flourish over there. If he does, then good for him, because he wasn't going to do so here.
John Galt
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If Popovic can make a man out of Jimmer, then he's a god.
kingsboi
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What's the funniest thing to me is people thinking he can actually contribute in a NBA game based on what he did in a summer league tournament.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
Other than Belinelli, there really isn't any consistent shooters here. Unless you want to consider Rudy a shooter, which he is not, he is a scorer. We have no idea if Curry will even play under Karl, matter fact contribute. Ben is as inconsistent on his shots as can be, he can have a game or two where he looks legit then he comes down to earth. Once again, consistency is key here. The Kings didn't all of a sudden become a team that is known for its perimeter shooting, their bread and butter will be inside the paint.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
There is plenty of reason for optimism here my man, have at it. But it shouldn't be really focused on the potential of Curry being "able" to hit shots when they matter, in the regular season. He is nothing but bench filler.
kingsboi
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How is Jimmer relevant in this conversation?
ElRey
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Speaking of Jimmer, looks like he's signing with the San Antonio Spurs... Seems like they like our former draft picks!
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
Maybe they can turn our draft hopefuls into actual contributors.
The Spurs still have Tony Parker and they still have Patty Mills. They needed a replacement for Cory Joseph but kind of strange that they'd nab both McCallum and Fredette. Unless they think Jimmer is better off as an undersized SG. Far be it for me to doubt Popovich and Buford but I'll be interested to see how the minutes shake out for those two former Kings.
One year for now when Jimmer wins the finals MVP after breaking Curry's playoff threes record you will regret calling him a sissy... #JimmeRings
Well, unless another PG is signed before the season starts or Karl is fired as head coach there's an extremely high probability of Curry playing under Karl. It's optimistic to expect Rondo to play even 72 games. And outside of last year DC has been pretty durable but he'll likely miss 5-10 games too.
As for the Kings I think they overall improved their outside shooting a bit but you're right - they are still largely the team they were last season with a few improvements and more depth. And to me that's a good thing. If they can get back to being a hard nosed defensive squad with slightly improved offense that is still focused on attacking the basket and making free throws then they have a shot at the playoffs.
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