Sean May

teej

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Hey guys. I'm teej from Bobcatsplanet.com

I just wanted you guys to know what you're getting yourselves into with Sean May. He's arrogant, lazy, overweight, always hurt, and makes you cling to the skills he actually shows when he's on the court. If you make something out of him, you've done better than Larry Brown...

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...And some various punchlines

- The minute Sean May arrives in Sacramento, California will fall into the ocean.
- That's gotta be a photoshop, because a real Sean May basketball card would have to be the size of a space shuttle
- At Sean May's house, "Draft Party" refers to standing behind Sean after the beans are gone
- Compared to Sean May, Kevin Love is a freakin Somalian
- Oh he's got pull....gravitational pull

Enjoy!
 
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umm thanks? how about you let us fans form these opinions ourselves? At a one-year minimum contract, I hardly think the signing is a risk.
 
teej - While I can understand your frustration, we have a tradition around here. The minute someone becomes a Sacramento King he gets a clean slate. Sean is no exception.

At this point, we're not going to prejudge Sean. He can rehabilitate his career here if he so chooses. He wouldn't be the first.

We wish him all the luck in the world. We've already made some jokes but he won't be ridiculed without a fair chance to earn our respect.

:)
 
Hey guys. I'm teej from Bobcatsplanet.com

I just wanted you guys to know what you're getting yourselves into with Sean May. He's arrogant, lazy, overweight, always hurt, and makes you cling to the skills he actually shows when he's on the court. If you make something out of him, you've done better than Larry Brown...

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...And some various punchlines

- The minute Sean May arrives in Sacramento, California will fall into the ocean.
- That's gotta be a photoshop, because a real Sean May basketball card would have to be the size of a space shuttle
- At Sean May's house, "Draft Party" refers to standing behind Sean after the beans are gone
- Compared to Sean May, Kevin Love is a freakin Somalian
- Oh he's got pull....gravitational pull

Enjoy!


Larry? Is it you?
 
I like the signing, especially for what we are currently trying to accomplish. I do not see him being in our long term plans, but he may just end up playing well enough through the first half of the season so he can become more attractive come trade deadline. I see this move as one we may end up using as trade bait to get extra cash or extra draft picks before the trade deadline.
 
Hey guys. I'm teej from Bobcatsplanet.com

I just wanted you guys to know what you're getting yourselves into with Sean May. He's arrogant, lazy, overweight, always hurt, and makes you cling to the skills he actually shows when he's on the court. If you make something out of him, you've done better than Larry Brown...

Portion edited - VF21

...And some various punchlines

- The minute Sean May arrives in Sacramento, California will fall into the ocean.
- That's gotta be a photoshop, because a real Sean May basketball card would have to be the size of a space shuttle
- At Sean May's house, "Draft Party" refers to standing behind Sean after the beans are gone
- Compared to Sean May, Kevin Love is a freakin Somalian
- Oh he's got pull....gravitational pull

Enjoy!

Thanks, but it seems that BOTH parties were due for a change of scenery. I, and I know that many here and in the Kings community support Sean 110 %.
 
I understand the clean slate theory, I'm all for it, we do it too with our newcomers. But I have never seen any player who couldn't care less about his team or his fans while putting on a great show for them like he did.

BC, I don't get the Larry comment?

Kingsnation, he asked to stay in Charlotte, and MJ wanted to keep him? Not sure where you're going there. We all wanted him out, that's true, but the FO was split.

For those of you optimistic about him, I really do hate to be a killjoy, but that's what we've been experiencing the last 3 years. I haven't seen any return, and while as a fan of basketball I hope you get something from him, I don't see it happening.

and VF21, why were those links taken out?
 
Kingsnation, he asked to stay in Charlotte, and MJ wanted to keep him? Not sure where you're going there. We all wanted him out, that's true, but the FO was split.

Maybe his play/attitude that you are referencing was due to a complacency that had built into his play. A change of scenery may be exactly what he needs to fulfill his potential.

Again, it seems, as you have said - the fans were done with him. The FO may have been torn but not enough to make too strong of an effort to retain him.

It seems, IMO, that a change of scenery was needed on all 3 fronts, most drastically for Sean.
 
Sean May interview:

You worked out for several teams that last few weeks. Why did you choose Sacramento and not any of the the other teams?

Sean May: Just because I liked the fact that Sacramento is a young team, with a lot of young guys that are also talented. They have a new staff coming in. They’ve always had great fan support and the community there is great. It was just a good fit. The other teams I worked out for, sure I could have gone there. I just thought it was a better opportunity in Sacramento.

Did you have other offers on the table aside from Sacramento?

SM: I did have an offer from Cleveland. We were also taking to Portland, but no offer on the table from them.

What kind of player do you see yourself becoming for the Kings?

SM: A guy that can come in and help them win games. I feel like I can play inside/out. I can help with my rebounding ability. I just think it’s a good fit. I just can help them.

You’ve had some injury problems that have kept you off the court. How would you rate your health now?

SM: Feel great. My knees are strong. It’s the best I’ve felt in a long, long time. Yeah, I’ve had knee injuries that have taken me long to overcome, but I’m fine right now. My career is hopefully going to be injury-free from this point on.

What are the learning experiences you take from your years playing with the Bobcats?

SM: I loved the city of Charlotte and I loved playing for the organization. It’s been great for me. They’ve always supported me. Unfortunately, I have been been injured and I wasn’t able to live up to the expectations for myself that I had and the ones the organization had for me. It was great while I was in Charlotte, but I just felt it was time for a fresh start.

What kind of relationship you had with Larry Brown and Michael Jordan there?

SM: Larry Brown and I were fine. Great coach. Tremendous teacher. I think he’s one of the few guys in the league who actually teaches. MJ, my relationship with him was great. I never had a bad relationship with anybody on the staff or the organization.

How different was Larry Brown to other coaches you’ve had in your career?

SM: He’s a little bit different. Obviously, he’s more old-school in certain ways. He teaches a lot more than other NBA coaches. He was great as far as his understanding of the game and his language with the players. But he can be difficult to play for at times ’cause he’s hard on all players.

When did you realize the conditioning/weight issues you’ve had were becoming a real issue for your NBA career?

SM: Honestly, I never felt like I had weight issues. You know, I asked them where they wanted me to play at. They said 260 and I was around 260 all year. Conditioning? When you don’t play, it’s tough to be in game shape. I felt like I’ve always been in pretty good shape. I don’t feel like the conditioning was the reason why I wasn’t playing. I just wasn’t playing.


There were fans in Charlotte that were very critical with you. Was it tough? How did you deal with that?

SM: Oh yeah. It’s always tough when people criticize, when they are critical of you. But you deal with it and you go on. I think that anything you do, people are going to have an opinion. If you can take the good, then you should be able to take the bad. I understand that people were critical with me. Yeah, it bothered me. But life will go on and I’ll do what I’ll do.

What do you say to all the people that have written you off?

SM: I would say that I understand that they have an opinion and I appreciate that. But that’s my goal, that’s what I will do… I will prove everybody wrong. Yeah, there’s people that have written me off and that’s fine. I understand that and I accept that challenge.

Do you stay in touch with your teammates at North Carolina?

SM: Oh yeah, without a doubt. I live in Chapel Hill in the summer with Marvin (Williams). I talked to Raymond (Felton) actually yesterday. Jawad Williams, I’m going to his wedding today. We are all really close. We always stay in contact with each other.

Which of those guys do you think have a better chance of becoming a star in the NBA?

SM: I think Marvin has a really good chance of becoming a star. He’s gotten better every year. He averages double figures. Once he gets in a situation when his role is a little bit bigger, you’ll see a lot more from him. Same situation with Raymond. I think he’ll end up being a real star in this league. Rashad (McCants) and I are in kind of in the same position right now. We’re fighting right now for an opportunity.

You think Raymond Felton is going to stay in Charlotte? What’s going to happen with that?

SM: I don’t know. And right now, he doesn’t now. Right now, it’s just a waiting game. As of now the situation in the NBA… A lot of teams aren’t spending money right now. You’re just waiting to see what happens. David Lee, everyone thought he’d be locked up right now, but he’s waiting for a contract. You see what happens and just go on.

http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/sierra/2009/07/25/sean-may-i-will-prove-everybody-wrong/

Uh...he doesn't think his weight/conditioning is an ISSUE?

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Congrats, we just got a scrub eddy curry.



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*YAWN*

all this hoopla over a 1 year deal at the minimum? now if we threw the whole midlevel at him, i'd be royally pissed.
 
*YAWN*

all this hoopla over a 1 year deal at the minimum? now if we threw the whole midlevel at him, i'd be royally pissed.


Well I think the real complaint is going to come from the rooks when its their turn to bring the doughnuts. ;)
 
*YAWN*

all this hoopla over a 1 year deal at the minimum? now if we threw the whole midlevel at him, i'd be royally pissed.

Then the point becomes WHY add him at all? Sure, it's a one year minimum deal on a guy who probably won't get much time. But why choose to add an injury prone, overweight player who has no work ethic? Surely if you want to just get a roster filler, you can find better players for the climate of the team than May.
 
Then the point becomes WHY add him at all? Sure, it's a one year minimum deal on a guy who probably won't get much time. But why choose to add an injury prone, overweight player who has no work ethic? Surely if you want to just get a roster filler, you can find better players for the climate of the team than May.

Just think of him as Mo Taylor's replacement. With SAR off the roster, and KT getting ready to retire, we're dangerously low on veteran PFs who are on the brink of leaving the NBA.
 
Just think of him as Mo Taylor's replacement. With SAR off the roster, and KT getting ready to retire, we're dangerously low on veteran PFs who are on the brink of leaving the NBA.

I would rather have a scrub who might have good things rub off him than bad things that might influence the young guys. All around, this is yet another bad move in free agency for the kings.

I'm really questioning GP now. I have always defended him as he was the guy who brought the most success to the Sacramento era Kings, and it wasn't his fault Webber's knee blew out and Peja's back wore down. But now, those are not factors and he's also the guy who brought the worst team in the Sacramento era. Overall, he's great at drafting guys, but he's made some very bad free agent deals and I'm starting to get very tired of things like this.
 
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May is a stopgap. I honestly think Brockman is going to end up getting more minutes than him anyways.

Next draft is top heavy with bigs...We pick up another young one, maybe sign a decent frontcourt FA in the loaded 2010 offseason. We'll be set in the bigs department.

Personally I cant get mad over a one year deal, especially when there arnt really any guys out there worth going after anyways. If it was a deal for over 3 years I could see griping about it but the dude is essentially an expiring contract. Even if he doesnt work out he'll be a decent trade throw in.
 
Surely if you want to just get a roster filler, you can find better players for the climate of the team than May.


Like say....Diogu?



May will be fine. I hope he'll be motivated by the one-year deal in the hopes of getting a longer contract somewhere next year.
 
Like say....Diogu?

Anybody who isn't an injury prone, overweight player who has no work ethic and thinks he's just fine. I don't want that type of guy around the young players on this team. He's not going to produce on the court, and he's not going to do anything but harm off the court, so there's no reason to even sign him.

May will be fine. I hope he'll be motivated by the one-year deal in the hopes of getting a longer contract somewhere next year.

That would require him to get on the court, which he won't do very much. And if he does make enough of a splash just to keep his NBA career ALIVE for yet another minimum deal next year, it won't be for the kings. There's just absolutely ZERO reason for this signing.
 
Well I think the real complaint is going to come from the rooks when its their turn to bring the doughnuts. ;)

Just saw that. Nice ;).

Not drafting Rubio makes even more sense now - between his buyout and prohibitive cost of doughnut runs with May on the roster, the kid would need a second job just to survive.
 
Apparently May chose Sac over Portland and Cleavland. Thats pretty cool.

Not for Sac lol. He said he didn't get an offer from Portland though.

I am usually a cynic, but I can't see any positives to this even if I try really, really hard.

Negatives:

-He's out of shape. I might list a "he might turn it around" in a positive column if he wasn't in denial about this. One can only fix what they realize needs fixing. If he doesn't think it matters about getting in shape, he's not going to change it.

-He has a history of health issues and has played a season in 4 years. We saw Hawes still be able to play despite his injuries, but we also saw Webber and SAR decline too. It might not be an issue if it wasn't combined with the previous point.

-It's going to be hard for him to get much PT if he either isn't healthy or just sucks. JT and Hawes will play big minutes. So if his PT is limited, he's not going to make much of an impact anyway.

-His attitude about being a pro reminds me of Iverson. He obviously doesn't think being committed by getting in shape or eating right is needed. He thinks that's ok, and I don't want that rubbing off on the young guys. Now, the counter to that is maybe the attitude of JT, Brockman, etc might rub off on him, but if he can't get it together and be motivated on the bobcats under Michael Jordan and Larry Brown, what would make him change now?

So overall, yes, it's not much money. Yes, it's not an impact player. But that's precisely why it's a bad signing, because there is NO POSSIBILITY of him doing anything significantly positive for this team. What's worse: his attitude might bring negatives. The best possible scenario: May gets 8/8 off the bench and stays healthy enough to play most of the season. And the odds of that happening are slim.

The argument that "it's not that big of a deal if he sucks" is mindless to me, because the point in signing a player is to make your team better. If the best thing that can be said is that he won't do too much damage to the team, then that's an issue I have.
 
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Not for Sac lol. He said he didn't get an offer from Portland though.

I am usually a cynic, but I can't see any positives to this even if I try really, really hard.

Negatives:

-He's out of shape. I might list a "he might turn it around" in a positive column if he wasn't in denial about this. One can only fix what they realize needs fixing. If he doesn't think it matters about getting in shape, he's not going to change it.

-He has a history of health issues and has played a season in 4 years. We saw Hawes still be able to play despite his injuries, but we also saw Webber and SAR decline too. It might not be an issue if it wasn't combined with the previous point.

-It's going to be hard for him to get much PT if he either isn't healthy or just sucks. JT and Hawes will play big minutes. So if his PT is limited, he's not going to make much of an impact anyway.

-His attitude about being a pro reminds me of Iverson. He obviously doesn't think being committed by getting in shape or eating right is needed. He thinks that's ok, and I don't want that rubbing off on the young guys. Now, the counter to that is maybe the attitude of JT, Brockman, etc might rub off on him, but if he can't get it together and be motivated on the bobcats under Michael Jordan and Larry Brown, what would make him change now?

So overall, yes, it's not much money. Yes, it's not an impact player. But that's precisely why it's a bad signing, because there is NO POSSIBILITY of him doing anything significantly positive for this team. What's worse: his attitude might bring negatives. The best possible scenario: May gets 8/8 off the bench and stays healthy enough to play most of the season. And the odds of that happening are slim.

The argument that "it's not that big of a deal if he sucks" is mindless to me, because the point in signing a player is to make your team better. If the best thing that can be said is that he won't do too much damage to the team, then that's an issue I have.

Do you believe in second chances?

Because if Ike deserved one, doesn't May? :confused:

I'm sorry, it just seems like you don't even want him to change your mind.
 
Do you believe in second chances?

Because if Ike deserved one, doesn't May? :confused:

First off, Diogu doesn't have anything to do with the criticisms of May. I'm just talking about May here, and their situations are not the same.

I'm sorry, it just seems like you don't even want him to change your mind.

Well if you read my post, then you would have clearly seen my explanation of WHY I can't see this as a second chance for him to change. It would be different if the issues against May were ones he either could change (health/durability/injury), or things he was committed to change (commitment to the game, work ethic, conditioning, etc). But the limitations are either out of his control, or are things he doesn't think NEED CHANGING. Again, this would be a totally different situation if he came in an admitted his weaknesses, what held him back before, and took this upcoming season with the team as a chance to reinvent himself and his career by working hard and trying to improve himself as a player. THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

Giving May a "second chance" means thinking he will improve here and do things differently than he has before, and hopefully be better off for that. That's not going to happen based upon his comments.

In that interview I posted, he claims he's motivated to prove the people who wrote him off wrong. But in that same interview, he ignores the very reason WHY people have written him off. He says he hopes his career is now injury free. Well, hopes and dreams aren't the reality in the NBA when it comes to health. He says his conditioning isn't an issue, and insinuates that he can only get in shape by actually playing in the game (wtf?). So the two major criticisms that he hopes to prove wrong are things he brushes aside.

Sorry I don't blindly embrace every single player just because they wear purple. There's a difference between giving a guy a clean slate when he deserves it, and being blindly optimistic and not seeing the reality of the situation.

So since you asked why I don't feel like giving May a second chance, and answered it, let me post a question:

What makes you think that May will turn things around here?
 
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When did you realize the conditioning/weight issues you’ve had were becoming a real issue for your NBA career?

SM: Honestly, I never felt like I had weight issues. You know, I asked them where they wanted me to play at. They said 260 and I was around 260 all year. Conditioning? When you don’t play, it’s tough to be in game shape. I felt like I’ve always been in pretty good shape. I don’t feel like the conditioning was the reason why I wasn’t playing. I just wasn’t playing.

This is the comment (not comments) that you are basing all of your feelings on?

It is all past-tense.

He is referring to his time with Charlotte. No where in there does it talk about his weight/conditioning now. We don't know what went down in Charlotte, and quite frankly nor do I care.

It's already been posted here that he's lost 20-25 lbs the past few months, and this is was his workout regimen when he "out of shape." --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAOEJCpx1c

When did you realize the conditioning/weight issues you’ve had were becoming a real issue for your NBA career?

SM: Honestly, I never felt like I had weight issues. You know, I asked them where they wanted me to play at. They said 260 and I was around 260 all year. Conditioning? When you don’t play, it’s tough to be in game shape. I felt like I’ve always been in pretty good shape. I don’t feel like the conditioning was the reason why I wasn’t playing. I just wasn’t playing.

Read the quote again, and you realize he said "pretty good shape." Not Great, not even good. He acknowledges there's room for improvement.

First off, Diogu doesn't have anything to do with the criticisms of May. I'm just talking about May here, and their situations are not the same.

Sorry, it just seems that one reason you are such a Anti-May advocate was because you were such a strong re-sign Ike supporter. If that is far off, then forgive me.

It would be different if the issues against May were ones he either could change (health/durability/injury), or things he was committed to change (commitment to the game, work ethic, conditioning, etc). But the limitations are either out of his control, or are things he doesn't think NEED CHANGING. Again, this would be a totally different situation if he came in an admitted his weaknesses, what held him back before, and took this upcoming season with the team as a chance to reinvent himself and his career by working hard and trying to improve himself as a player. THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

Why is this "NOT THE CASE?" From the interview I read, I see a player who is desperate to prove he can play in this league and be a part of something special with all of our young players. I just don't see how you can be questioning his commitment to the game, work ethic, conditioning, etc, on just this one comment/Bobcats fans.. How do you know he is NOT committed to changing these things? Because of ONE comment?

Giving May a "second chance" means thinking he will improve here and do things differently than he has before, and hopefully be better off for that. That's not going to happen based upon his comments.

No, giving May a second chance means welcoming and believing that he will change. You don't give someone a second chance by saying, "Well, I want you to succeed but during your time here I'm going to constantly and consistently bring up EVERY negative about your game and about you I possibly can, but good luck."

That's not giving a second chance. Your mind is already made up.

He says his conditioning isn't an issue, and insinuates that he can only get in shape by actually playing in the game (wtf?).

I am glad you are basing your argument/opinions on insinuations found in a single paragraph of a Internet article.

Sorry I don't blindly embrace every single player just because they wear purple. There's a difference between giving a guy a clean slate when he deserves it, and being blindly optimistic and not seeing the reality of the situation.

Nor do I. But May doesn't deserve it? I mean wow, did he commit a crime or something? I see the reality of the situation. He is a guy who has been working out the past few months because he wants to prove naysayers wrong. He will be fighting for time with Brockman. He will be costing us the very least possible and has the possibility of being a major steal.

If you do look at the past, which you seem to do quite often.. you will also see that when he has been able to play - he was quite productive for a reserve big and he also was Most Outstanding Player when led UNC to a title.

In summary, Potential = high, Cost = low.

What makes you think that May will turn things around here?

I'm not saying he will. But my mind is made up that I will be supporting and hoping that he does. Guess what? He might not play well here. But if he doesn't, we let him go at the end of the year while giving his minutes to Brock or some other big in the process of this year. Like I said, the cost is low.

No harm, no foul.

Go May. Go Kings.
 
Sean May's idea of a balanced meal is 2 large pizzas in each hand..

The Bobcats put Sean May on a water diet and now Lake Superior is gone...

Seriously though, why another PF when there is only one center on the roster? Aaron Gray would've been a nice pickup. Maybe even Foyle for the minimum or something along those lines.
 
Sean May's idea of a balanced meal is 2 large pizzas in each hand..

The Bobcats put Sean May on a water diet and now Lake Superior is gone...

Seriously though, why another PF when there is only one center on the roster? Aaron Gray would've been a nice pickup. Maybe even Foyle for the minimum or something along those lines.

I believe Gray is a RFA, and the Bulls are just waiting for an offer to match. Foyle? He old. (Sorry for the ageism.)
 
I believe Gray is a RFA, and the Bulls are just waiting for an offer to match. Foyle? He old. (Sorry for the ageism.)
Well, sports does sort of have a physical age limit, at least for players/participants at the highest level of a sport. I'm old and I know I can't do what I could at 25. Will never look like that again either, I'm afraid. ;)

(Although I must say I'm quite impressed with Lance Armstrong's 3rd place finish in the Tour de France at age 37, after a 4-year retirement.)
 
Sometimes a change of scenery and being surrounded by new personalities is what it takes to do a 180. I like the May signing, its low cost and high on potential.

I feel that this exactly the type of player we should be taking a 1 year flyer on right now.
 
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