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Smart_guy3
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Bonzi Well's is currently leading our team in rebounds not sure if I should be happy or pissed off cause our SG is outrebounding our bigs 
CreeksideBaller
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pissed
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thesanityannex
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i'm happy. bonzi is an animal. someone's gotta grab them, brad is up top handing out all the assists, whats wrong with bonzi boarding?
CreeksideBaller
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i think this has been said before, but i say brad and bonzi switch positions
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Smart_guy3
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thesanityannex said:
In some ways I'm happy but it makes me pissed off that our bigs is being outrebounded by a SG? If we were winning at this point maybe we could've said it was a good thing but now it makes it obvious thats why we struggle so much our frontline is not getting the job done on the rebounding category well Bonzi has? if thats the case then there is something wrong someone needs to wake Brad up.
kingsfan916
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I am cool too as long as we get the reboundsthesanityannex said:
Bricklayer
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Smart_guy3 said:Bonzi Well's is currently leading our team in rebounds not sure if I should be happy or pissed off cause our SG is outrebounding our bigs
Both.
Bonzi has been amazing. I can't recall the last time I true guard was averaging as many as 8.4rebs. Maybe Kidd or Kobe or TMac when he was guard one year? Maybe. But doubt it. Might have to go back to Magic or some such. In any case, Bonzi is making up for a lot of our weaknesses right now.
Reef is somewhere around where I expected him to be. But of course I did not expect him to be strong on the glass.
Brad is the guy who is scaring me. 11 games in, 1/8 of he season, and our only player taller than 6-9 is averaging 6.6 rebs? Have no idea what is up.
Peja was improving before the injury, but is still reboudning at a similar pace to last year overall, which is to say very badly.
And the problem is that we are even more reliant on Bonzi right now than I thought we might be, and we are one injury away from being in real trouble on the boards (not that we are doing well anyway). If a frontline guy gets hurt you can normally replace him with another rebounder in his class -- in fact if SAR or Brad got hurt their backups are probably BETTER rebounders. But if Bonzi goes down, there is just no replacement who's going to come remotely close to his contribution. Having a freak OG give you huge numbers is great, but if you are relying on those numbers and he gets hurt his replacement isn't going to be able to give them to you. Brad getting 9, Reef 8, Bonzi 5.5 = 22.5 is a far more sustainable balance than Brad 6.6, Reef 7.5 Bonzi 8.4.
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thesanityannex
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not sure on any stats, but it seems like we aren't getting rebounded every single game like last year.
Bricklayer
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thesanityannex said:
We're at -3.3 per game on the year, which puts us 22nd right now in the league.
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Smart_guy3
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Bricklayer said:
I agree with you, it reallys makes me mad when our SG is outrebounding our bigs I mean i'm happy for Bonzi but i'm more pissed off on our Bigs.
Bonzi is probably our most significant player on the court right now.
RA really needs to tell Brad to step up.
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Fillmoe
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i bought a bonzi jersey today
Bballkingsrock
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Fillmoe said:
From where?
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Fillmoe
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Bballkingsrock said:
champs sports at the mall
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thesanityannex
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thank you bonzi for your efforts in keeping the kings from being dead last in team rebounds.Bricklayer said:
nbrans
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Bricklayer said:
I don't dispute this stat at all and certainly the Kings haven't been great rebounders, but rebounding stats are somewhat affected by opposing field goal percentages -- if the other team is hitting their shots there aren't as many rebounds to grab. Look at the New Orleans game. The Hornets shot 47.9% to the Kings 31.3%. The Hornets only got 6 offensive rebounds to the Kings' 10, showing they didn't exactly dominate the glass, but because the Kings missed so many shots they were "killed" on the boards: 52-36, a whopping difference of 16. If you take away that game from the stats, opposing teams are only slightly outrebounding the Kings.
Here are the other games, offensive rebounds in parentheses:
Houston 43 (13) Kings 48 (14) +5
Phoenix 36 (6) Kings 46 (20!) +10
Detroit 44 (13) Kings 32 (10) -12
Denver 56 (21!) Kings 36 (12) -20
Denver 43 (14) Kings 39 (3) -4
New York 39 (5) Kings 36 (7) -3
Utah 37 (15) Kings 41 (11) +4
Milwaukee 41 (15) Kings 46 (10) +5
Seattle 36 (12) Kings 38 (7) +2
San Antonio 43 (9) Kings 40 (14) -3
So by no means have the Kings been great on the boards, but they haven't been terrible either.
Bricklayer
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Ooh! Ooh! Can I take away games too? 
I choose...the +10 aberration in Phoenix against the team with the 4 guard lineup and no superstar PF. Now that we've thrown out the high and the low, how we doing?
In any case, while your point about shooting percentages may be valid, in this case it does not make a difference. Our rebounding % of .480 is also 22nd in the league, and rebounding % eliminates all questions of pace or shooting %. I didn't use it earlier simply because the site I was looking at did not have it as a stat. Espn does however.
Tops in the league is Cleveland, who is just smashing people at .556. Phoenix is at the bottom at .463. Unfortunately we're far closer to the latter number than the former. I just pray that Bonzi does not come back down to earth until Brad finally wakes up from his offseason hibernation.
I choose...the +10 aberration in Phoenix against the team with the 4 guard lineup and no superstar PF. Now that we've thrown out the high and the low, how we doing?
In any case, while your point about shooting percentages may be valid, in this case it does not make a difference. Our rebounding % of .480 is also 22nd in the league, and rebounding % eliminates all questions of pace or shooting %. I didn't use it earlier simply because the site I was looking at did not have it as a stat. Espn does however.
Tops in the league is Cleveland, who is just smashing people at .556. Phoenix is at the bottom at .463. Unfortunately we're far closer to the latter number than the former. I just pray that Bonzi does not come back down to earth until Brad finally wakes up from his offseason hibernation.
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playmaker0017
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I don't think we're a terrible rebounding team - we're average or just below - but we ARE a terrible defensive team.
Our big men need to nut up and do something. Reef doing his whole "box people out at the expense of the rebound" manuever is getting old. Miller's amazing ability to be no where near the rebound is getting old.
We're becoming pretty boys.
Bonzi should be calling them out.
Our big men need to nut up and do something. Reef doing his whole "box people out at the expense of the rebound" manuever is getting old. Miller's amazing ability to be no where near the rebound is getting old.
We're becoming pretty boys.
Bonzi should be calling them out.
kingsfannPDX
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brad has never been known for his rebounding. neither has peja. it would be nice if sar could start grabbing more but i'm fine with bonzi getting the boards!!!!!
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playmaker0017
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kingsfannPDX said:
Since being a starter - Miller is around 9 or so boards a game. 6 is WELL off that pace.
Well, he is a wuss.
Yeah, his whole box out thing is getting old. He needs to man up.
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Smart_guy3
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Bricklayer said:
I agree with you, but I think once Brad wakes up and grabs the rebounds Bonzi will be less effective on the boards and more productive on the scoreing category I think someone needs to grab the rebounds since our bigs aren't getting there job done on the glass.
but once that changes Bonzi will have a different role since the Kings will would expect there bigs to grab rebounds.
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