SacBee: Artest issues statement (merged)

[Spike]

True... I don't get it.. It's like he tries to explain stuff just to hear himself talk or something.

Think of it in "kingsfans.com" terms...........

A new user named Ron Artest registers, and then starts making thread after thread without much substance. In one thread he says how he wants to keep Brad miller because he had a good season last yea and is a good center. In the next thread he has the Kings trading Miller because he isn't the best shot blocker/rebounder saying Brad isn't a good center. Then in the next thread he talks about the Kings being a 50 win team and how good the young guys are, but in another thread he points out all the Kings shortcomings and explains to everyone why he thinks the Kings wont win 30 games...

Then he starts a thread like this;
Kings trade;
Quincy Douby
Mikki Moore

Kings receive;
Dwight Howard

No explanation why Orlando would even think about doing this. This new user just likes Dwight Howard and thinks the Kings should trade Douby, and Moore for him.

Doesn't that type of user get banned??

Why haven't the Kings banned Artest?

Nah, no banning, but the user gets mocked mercilessly. Kinda like what is happening to Ron. So in a way, it all works.

 

[Denio]

I Googled Ron Artest and this came up....

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/DS00652

 

[TheRaven]

Try THIS one on for size...

This whole thing was orchastrated by Ron and his agent, since his agent's explorations revealed that Ron could not get a lucrative deal, probably no better than the MLE, if he had opted out. So, first he wants the maximum money he thinks he so richly deserves. In this case, the last year $$ in his existing contract.

Then, he follows a next-day script to say he was betrayed, and is now sorry he did not opt out. Result? Bigger pressure on Petrie (just read the threads here) to trade him to get him the hell outta here before the season starts and he can do some potential damage to the rebuild. Such pressure would clearly open up more "deals" than might have been available before (GMs can now potentially unload crap in part or in whole to get Ron), and thus simply meaning that Petrie is now placed in a situation to have to get rid of him and, with GMs knowing this, take lesser players in return (see past Webber and Bibby trades, although different circumstances, to be sure).

Ron gets the most salary possible under the circumstances, and gets a chance to move on to a contender at the same time. If he goes to a lesser team, or it doesn't work out with a contender, he is an unrestricted FA after this season, but he got his "max" money. His reputation for a future contract is undamaged, well, because everyone knows he is Ron and after all, he claims he was mislead, betrayed. Safety square.

I don't know about that. It isn't outside the realm of possibility for him to try to tank his value in order to open up more trading partners, but given the circumstances and his past history, it seems a little far-fetched.

The more likely explanation is that it was just Ron Artest being Ron Artest. He just has some sort of mental block that seems to make him incapable of thinking about the long-term implications of what he is saying or doing before he acts. It was the reason he charged the stands instead of making a playoff run with Indiana, it was the reason he basically ran himself out of Indiana after he was given second chances, and the reason he said this now. Anyone that isn't completely stupid or masochistic who had thought any of those things through wouldn't have done them; But they aren't Ron Artest.

 

[Jerryaki]

I'll be glad when hes gone too, but I'm not going to throw him under the bus until he does something actually retarded. Like punch someone in the face.

too late! *rimshot*

well, you sort of set that one up...

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Ron is a goon, He might just be the WORST player to have on a rebuilding team... Until we get rid of him we wont get a good look at what they can really do.

 

[Warhawk]

True... I don't get it.. It's like he tries to explain stuff just to hear himself talk or something.

Think of it in "kingsfans.com" terms...........

A new user named Ron Artest registers, and then starts making thread after thread without much substance. In one thread he says how he wants to keep Brad miller because he had a good season last yea and is a good center. In the next thread he has the Kings trading Miller because he isn't the best shot blocker/rebounder saying Brad isn't a good center. Then in the next thread he talks about the Kings being a 50 win team and how good the young guys are, but in another thread he points out all the Kings shortcomings and explains to everyone why he thinks the Kings wont win 30 games...

Then he starts a thread like this;
Kings trade;
Quincy Douby
Mikki Moore

Kings receive;
Dwight Howard

No explanation why Orlando would even think about doing this. This new user just likes Dwight Howard and thinks the Kings should trade Douby, and Moore for him.

Doesn't that type of user get banned??

Why haven't the Kings banned Artest?

We already have a couple of those - please don't encourage more.

 

[Oscar]

True... I don't get it.. It's like he tries to explain stuff just to hear himself talk or something.

Think of it in "kingsfans.com" terms...........

A new user named Ron Artest registers, and then starts making thread after thread without much substance. In one thread he says how he wants to keep Brad miller because he had a good season last yea and is a good center. In the next thread he has the Kings trading Miller because he isn't the best shot blocker/rebounder saying Brad isn't a good center. Then in the next thread he talks about the Kings being a 50 win team and how good the young guys are, but in another thread he points out all the Kings shortcomings and explains to everyone why he thinks the Kings wont win 30 games...

Then he starts a thread like this;
Kings trade;
Quincy Douby
Mikki Moore

Kings receive;
Dwight Howard

No explanation why Orlando would even think about doing this. This new user just likes Dwight Howard and thinks the Kings should trade Douby, and Moore for him.

Doesn't that type of user get banned??

Why haven't the Kings banned Artest?

Excuse me, am I missing something? Why should this user get banned? He posted something that may be unpopular or may or may not be well thought out. Is that cause enough to justify being kicked off this forum? He has made no threatening remarks against another poster and he has not used profanity. He has provoked discussion, which is what I thought this forum is supposed to be about.

 

[VF21]

Try THIS one on for size...

This whole thing was orchastrated by Ron and his agent, since his agent's explorations revealed that Ron could not get a lucrative deal, probably no better than the MLE, if he had opted out. So, first he wants the maximum money he thinks he so richly deserves. In this case, the last year $$ in his existing contract.

Then, he follows a next-day script to say he was betrayed, and is now sorry he did not opt out. Result? Bigger pressure on Petrie (just read the threads here) to trade him to get him the hell outta here before the season starts and he can do some potential damage to the rebuild. Such pressure would clearly open up more "deals" than might have been available before (GMs can now potentially unload crap in part or in whole to get Ron), and thus simply meaning that Petrie is now placed in a situation to have to get rid of him and, with GMs knowing this, take lesser players in return (see past Webber and Bibby trades, although different circumstances, to be sure).

Ron gets the most salary possible under the circumstances, and gets a chance to move on to a contender at the same time. If he goes to a lesser team, or it doesn't work out with a contender, he is an unrestricted FA after this season, but he got his "max" money. His reputation for a future contract is undamaged, well, because everyone knows he is Ron and after all, he claims he was mislead, betrayed. Safety square.

Sorry, but that's way too complicated and detail-specific for Artest to be part of.

RonRon's mouth speaks without ever touching base with his brain. It's happened for a very long time and it clearly happened again here. There's no conspiracy between Mark Stevens and Artest. In fact, if you read all the articles, Stevens was as blown away by Artest's babblings as any of us.

And don't fool yourself. Petrie doesn't need any pressure on him to trade Artest. The pressure was way back when to bring him here. Not now. Just like the failed Musselman experiment, the "Ron Artest" era has someone else's fingerprints all over it.

 

[VF21]

Excuse me, am I missing something? Why should this user get banned? He posted something that may be unpopular or may or may not be well thought out. Is that cause enough to justify being kicked off this forum? He has made no threatening remarks against another poster and he has not used profanity. He has provoked discussion, which is what I thought this forum is supposed to be about.

You are, indeed, missing something. That flapping sound you heard was the whole thing going right over your head.

 

[1kingzfan]

Sorry, but that's way too complicated and detail-specific for Artest to be part of.

RonRon's mouth speaks without ever touching base with his brain. It's happened for a very long time and it clearly happened again here. There's no conspiracy between Mark Stevens and Artest. In fact, if you read all the articles, Stevens was as blown away by Artest's babblings as any of us.

And don't fool yourself. Petrie doesn't need any pressure on him to trade Artest. The pressure was way back when to bring him here. Not now. Just like the failed Musselman experiment, the "Ron Artest" era has someone else's fingerprints all over it.

Yeah, makes sense.

I don't necessarily believe what I posted and it is certainly a far-fetched possibility, but how it all came down the day before (with Ron on Dave's show touting his love for SACTown) and after (firing off the email to the press the next morning) was suspicious to me. And I have a hard time believing that Ron's AGENT (forget about wacko Ron) didn't know what was going on with Petrie for his client until their July 1 meeting.

Ron gets his max payday available ($7.4 mil) and suddenly becomes MORE acquirable than as a FA, since teams can now give up garbage contracts to take on his salary rather than fork out the full MLE $ (or more, albeit unlikely) outright to get him as a FA. Plus these other teams can do it with no long term commitment now as well. Naturally, this also assumes that a S&T was not forthcoming for Ron as a FA either.

 

[Gary]

Excuse me, am I missing something? Why should this user get banned? He posted something that may be unpopular or may or may not be well thought out. Is that cause enough to justify being kicked off this forum? He has made no threatening remarks against another poster and he has not used profanity. He has provoked discussion, which is what I thought this forum is supposed to be about.

There have been a few people in the past that either post in all caps and make a ton of idiotic comments/threads/trade ideas that aren't around here anymore. Whether or not these people were banned I don't know.. But they aren't here anymore, and I think Ron shouldn't be here anymore either.

But yah.. The post was kind of a joke which I guess you didn't get or something =/