[SAC/SEA] Discussion thread
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Call me a hater, but Seattle does not impress me at all. The Monarchs let this game get away by this all inclusive rotation. There is no way that Atkinson, Smith and Kelly should play as much as they do (although Kim Smith was not too bad tonight). Not enough Powell, not enough Brunson, not enough Lawson.
Ticha was not very good as far as execution on offense (what else is new
).
Ticha was not very good as far as execution on offense (what else is new
).
Too much Franklin; in two games, we're -16 when she's on the court, and I refuse to believe that's a coincidence. I like her potential well enough but, dammit, every time she got on the court, it seems like we lost some/all of the lead.
Boucek committed too much time to the kids in general: they gave the game up in the second half and, by the time Boucek put the vets back in, it was too late.
Boucek committed too much time to the kids in general: they gave the game up in the second half and, by the time Boucek put the vets back in, it was too late.
Not enough Powell, not enough Brunson, not enough Lawson.
Ticha was not very good as far as execution on offense (what else is new).
Ticha was not very good as far as execution on offense (what else is new
).
also, as far as ticha goes. Every year its the same story of how she's worked on her offense blah blah. ticha may be the only team "leader" of any team in the L that doesn't score. Vocal leadership can only carry your team so much..ok i think i am done venting about this game
I just saw the 2nd half, but I agree that Boucek was insane at a minimum for giving Smith all those minutes and not doing something more in the midst of the early 4th Q meltdown. This was a time for a coach to do something strategically to counter the higher level of play by the opponent...and it didn't happen.
I also thought the rookies played too much, but that is the M's MO. We won a title playing lots of players in short stints. I went to 17 games that season, and it always drove me nuts when Whiz would make yet another sub move before the player getting the yank even worked up a sweat. But we won. I still would prefer to see players allowed to get into more of a rhythm and a tigher rotation.
Despite what I said above, I have my doubts whether a move by Boucek in the early 4th would have even mattered. It was Gearlds' three treys that reversed the game, even though Bird and Jackson stepped it up as well.
Rather than also call out specific M players like many posts above have done, I will just say that there were many stinky performances by both rookies and vets, a disappearing act or two, and the most disappointing thing was the out of control play by a few vets in the late 4th Q when the game was still in some doubt.
I also thought the rookies played too much, but that is the M's MO. We won a title playing lots of players in short stints. I went to 17 games that season, and it always drove me nuts when Whiz would make yet another sub move before the player getting the yank even worked up a sweat. But we won. I still would prefer to see players allowed to get into more of a rhythm and a tigher rotation.
Despite what I said above, I have my doubts whether a move by Boucek in the early 4th would have even mattered. It was Gearlds' three treys that reversed the game, even though Bird and Jackson stepped it up as well.
Rather than also call out specific M players like many posts above have done, I will just say that there were many stinky performances by both rookies and vets, a disappearing act or two, and the most disappointing thing was the out of control play by a few vets in the late 4th Q when the game was still in some doubt.
I agree that the rotations tonight sucked, but Kelly was not one of the problems. She played a whopping 8 minutes, and managed to make her only FG attempt, sank both of her FTs, grabbed 3 rebounds, dished out an assist, and only had one turnover. For a rookie that was signed two days ago, that's pretty darn impressive. She was one of the 3 Monarchs tonight who had a positive efficiency rating.
Heh, I'll take the positives out of this game.
We could have won, but the Storm caught fire, 35 points in the 4th? Seems like Coach is trying everyone out to see what they can do, I'm sure (at least hoping I'm sure) she'll tighten it up as the season goes on. No one can say they didn't get the chance to play though.
Crystal Kelly impressed me in her limited minutes, there was one play where she was on the block against Yo and she just put some moves on Yo and shot over her and scored.
Tangie is a turnover magnet, I cringe everytime she handles it.
I like how Kim is playing, very aggressive on both ends, I'm glad to see that.
Brunson is playing very well and she's starting to look very comfortable on the offensive end.
I'll take what I can get out of Adrian. Sometimes she good, sometimes she couldn't catch a ball to save her life....
Aqua is agressive and quick, I'm sure she'll come into her own throughout the season.
Harper is a keeper. I love how she plays, her and Brunson will be a dominate duo in the post.
Oh yeah, our offense sucks. I've seen them play a total of two offensive sets, both of which are totally predictable, even I could defend it. If this team doesn't score in transition A LOT more, we're in trouble.
I'm sure there's more, but I'm tired lol.
We could have won, but the Storm caught fire, 35 points in the 4th? Seems like Coach is trying everyone out to see what they can do, I'm sure (at least hoping I'm sure) she'll tighten it up as the season goes on. No one can say they didn't get the chance to play though.
Crystal Kelly impressed me in her limited minutes, there was one play where she was on the block against Yo and she just put some moves on Yo and shot over her and scored.
Tangie is a turnover magnet, I cringe everytime she handles it.
I like how Kim is playing, very aggressive on both ends, I'm glad to see that.
Brunson is playing very well and she's starting to look very comfortable on the offensive end.
I'll take what I can get out of Adrian. Sometimes she good, sometimes she couldn't catch a ball to save her life....
Aqua is agressive and quick, I'm sure she'll come into her own throughout the season.
Harper is a keeper. I love how she plays, her and Brunson will be a dominate duo in the post.
Oh yeah, our offense sucks. I've seen them play a total of two offensive sets, both of which are totally predictable, even I could defend it. If this team doesn't score in transition A LOT more, we're in trouble.
I'm sure there's more, but I'm tired lol.
Lineup Analysis
I found psheehy's lineup analysis posted on another board to be very interesting.
Full analysis of the game can be found at his blog. I found it even more interesting to note in the full analysis that our strongest lineup (Penicheiro-Lawson-Powell-Kelly-Brunson) actually made its best run against a Storm lineup of Bird-Swoopes-Cash-Jackson-Griffith: -7
I found psheehy's lineup analysis posted on another board to be very interesting.
Full analysis of the game can be found at his blog. I found it even more interesting to note in the full analysis that our strongest lineup (Penicheiro-Lawson-Powell-Kelly-Brunson) actually made its best run against a Storm lineup of Bird-Swoopes-Cash-Jackson-Griffith: -7
I think those who watched the game saw the same thing with their own eyes. Coach Jenny had a very erratic at best rotation. The influx of youth bit the Monarchs in the behind, and will continue to do so, especially on the road. The only youthful players that I think deserves to play regularly is Franklin and Harper. Everybody else are on a short rope. I was very disappointed in the play of Latangela Atkinson. It just seemed like she forced everything she tried to do. She had no rhyme or reason to her game at all. And if Coach Jenny continues to heavily rely upon this rotation and expects to win on the road, she may be in for a rude awakening.
Kara Lawson has played 22 and 28 minutes; that is nearly not enough. I am all for playing youth, but not at the expense of capable, able bodied, productive veterans.
It just seemed like she forced everything she tried to do. She had no rhyme or reason to her game at all. And if Coach Jenny continues to heavily rely upon this rotation and expects to win on the road, she may be in for a rude awakening.Kara Lawson has played 22 and 28 minutes; that is nearly not enough. I am all for playing youth, but not at the expense of capable, able bodied, productive veterans.
that is interesting ... very ...
I read the blog, but i didn't see the part where it said this:
Your game killers were Harper (-26), Atkinson (-28) and Franklin (-10) ???
he or she did say this:
Rookie Laura Harper was much better offensively than veteran Williams-Strong, how long before she cracks the starting lineup for Jenny Boo?
i wonder what it would look like to have the analysis going live during a game ...
I read the blog, but i didn't see the part where it said this:
Your game killers were Harper (-26), Atkinson (-28) and Franklin (-10) ???
he or she did say this:
Rookie Laura Harper was much better offensively than veteran Williams-Strong, how long before she cracks the starting lineup for Jenny Boo?
i wonder what it would look like to have the analysis going live during a game ...
ya seriously. I really, really, don't understand Boucek's reasoning behind this. Rookie experimenting? Fine, but not for those long periods of time, geez! When we are down, it's petty simple, put in the people who are proven scorers. Perhaps our rotation will be more stabilized and tightened when our two injured players come back. Here's to hoping at least....