Sabonis vs Fox?

[dude12]

Where/when did he quit on the coach? What is the evidence. People close to Fox with an axe to grind can be contributory evidence but not the sole evidence. I don't buy the narrative on Fox and Brown. It became in their mutual interest to say they were in alignment because certainly Brown was fired for his inability to get through to the star player despite constantly torching him in his pressers, and that star's reluctance to re-sign with the franchise.

If your boss publicly called you out at every meeting as not meeting your assignments when you were a top performer, would you want to stick around.

Honestly, all of this is water under the bridge, but I don't understand the narrative that Fox and Brown were in the right and everyone else was wrong.

I don’t of one person saying Fox was right

 

[kingsboi]

this is basically the wifey pushing Fox to request only San Antonio as a destination so she can have family to watch two children and then filling his head with nonsense, female psychology takes this round. I still think Sabonis requests a trade but if he doesn't that will show us that he has class and the Kings will eventually do the right thing and ship him once the play-in is out of reach.

 

[MizzouKing]

Getting ready for the season to start, I began listening to Kings podcasts again and on one of the recent Locked On episodes Matt James said that last year the team became like a Jr High School and was cliquey with the “Sabonis Table” and the “Fox Table” and some players were at the Fox table and others (including Doug) were at the Sabonis table. Apparently it divided the team and caused drama…

I had never heard this before (maybe I missed it) but I do recall several instances of players seeming cold to Sabonis and even Fox seemed like maybe he didn’t care much for him the first time we played the spurs after the trade.

Does anyone have more info on this? Is this well-known info?

I’ve been tuned out from Kings podcasts since the end of the season so i apologize if this is redundant. Mods, please feel free to delete or move if this was discussed and I missed the thread.

Thanks for posting this, I need to catch up on my LOK podcasts... I've been seeing other posts for many months alluding to locker room disgruntlement and wondering what the scoop was, but I'm not in Sac so my "news" is only what gets posted (which tends to be a more risk averse activity for the hosts).

So how do the local media folks fit into all this? Is Matt from Locked on Kings more of a Sabonis guy? What about Deice and Mo?? From what you mentioned about DC, it sounds like the convo he was obligated to have to implore Fox to stay wasn't ever going to go anywhere...

 

[iowamcnabb]

Bickering before training camp is just what we needed to jump start the forum for the season. We are back.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Thanks for posting this, I need to catch up on my LOK podcasts... I've been seeing other posts for many months alluding to locker room disgruntlement and wondering what the scoop was, but I'm not in Sac so my "news" is only what gets posted (which tends to be a more risk averse activity for the hosts).

So how do the local media folks fit into all this? Is Matt from Locked on Kings more of a Sabonis guy? What about Deice and Mo?? From what you mentioned about DC, it sounds like the convo he was obligated to have to implore Fox to stay wasn't ever going to go anywhere...

Recee really greased local media and the twitter influencer crowd. In most other Kings circles I'd say it still trends at least 60-40 that Kings did Fox dirty and not the other way around. That included reddit though, if sticking to Twitter and the folks that moved over to bluesky it may be closer to >75%

I'm not sure if anyone is on "Team Domas". Matt is 80% homer content though.

 

[coolhandluke]

Bickering before training camp is just what we needed to jump start the forum for the season. We are back.

Anything to distract from the Anjali fiasco

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Whatever happened with Anjali is embarrassing and a stain on Vivek's child rearing and business mentorship skills, but the Stockton Kings were pretty much the gem of the G-League while she was there. It is fuel for the Vivek hater fire but I imagine fans of 29 other teams most of whom also think their owners are rich jerks who get away with everything under the sun its a non-story.

 

[coolhandluke]

It's definitely a story that needs to be talked about more. Is turning the Stockton Kings into a personal harem not a story? Imagine the outcry if the genders were swapped. Vivek runs the Kings organizations like a lala company filled with nepo hires who are given free reign to indulge in nonsense. The lack of ethics and the staggering incompetence are worthy stories, if only we had a media with a backbone.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

It's definitely a story that needs to be talked about more. Is turning the Stockton Kings into a personal harem not a story? Imagine the outcry if the genders were swapped. Vivek runs the Kings organizations like a lala company filled with nepo hires who are given free reign to indulge in nonsense. The lack of ethics and the staggering incompetence are worthy stories, if only we had a media with a backbone.

I imagine that more of this goes on than you or I think. We see plenty of front office and owners and their children as well as coaches who are men in inappropriate relationships with their underlings all the time. For the men, it's only a story when the women file harassment claims, and I guess for the women it's when the guy kills someone.

Jeannie Buss was in a years long relationship with Phil Jackson and nobody seemed to question her role with the team over it. Up until this it sure seemed like Anjali was maybe modeling herself on following a similar path.

In the end she's a young woman who made some grievous personal decisions but sexism coupled with pure hatred of her father have always been at the root of the media and fan narrative on her.

Just my two cents.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

In the end she's a young woman who made some grievous personal decisions but sexism coupled with pure hatred of her father have always been at the root of the media and fan narrative on her.

Just my two cents.

Sexism had nothing to do with it. She was completely unqualified for the position she was gifted due to nepotism. And the end result, and all the repeated drama leading up to it, bears that out.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Sexism had nothing to do with it. She was completely unqualified for the position she was gifted due to nepotism. And the end result, and all the repeated drama leading up to it, bears that out.

There are dozens of male children of owners working similar or actual NBA (vs G-League) positions with nepotism as there only qualification who exist unquestioned in the league. I'm not the sort that runs around screaming sexism at every slight, but sure felt obvious to me that was in play in all the criticism.

Also the main reason this is a story is because the dirt bag she dated turned out to be a murderer, so she's being blamed for this other guy's actions she had nothing to do with. There might be a word for that.