Ryan Anderson

[notoriousBEN3]

Sounds like his name has been coming up as being potentially available. I'm not sure a stretch 4 is really our biggest need right now, but we certainly need some perimeter players to open up the floor for Rondo and Cuz. Not to mention Ryan is from Sac and would likely be pretty stoked to play in his hometown.

No clue who would have to be involved to make it happen, but any thoughts?

 

[Iced Espresso]

Why use any asset now?

He's free to do as he pleases as UFA after this season.

We should take a look in free agency.

 

[206Fan]

Why use any asset now?

He's free to do as he pleases as UFA after this season.

We should take a look in free agency.

I think Ryno would be a great addition to this team this year. I'm like you though, I don't wNt to give up any assets for him.

I think it's a gamble Vlade should take, but I literally don't want to trade any of our key guys...
I'd offer Anderson, Acy, and a 2nd rounder. They'd reject us, but it would still be a shot.

 

[KingMilz]

Problem with adding any other quality big without moving Kosta is it kills Wcs development chances and we desperately need to develop him.

 

[dude12]

I think Sac will have an extremely good opportunity to sign him in the offseason. I think he would have signed here before except it appeared that Sac was moving to Seattle.

 

[lawlman91]

As of right now he fits us extremely well, unless if Koufos or WCS develops a jumper, which I hope they do.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

word has it, hes looking for a max contract when his contract is up. good luck on keeping him after throwing assets towards NO's way.

 

[206Fan]

word has it, hes looking for a max contract when his contract is up. good luck on keeping him after throwing assets towards NO's way.

RYNO is not worth a max extension...I really hope the Kings wouldn't be the team to give it to him either.

Anderson turned away the Kings the last time we went after him... so I don't see a real reason to really pursue a local player after we got rejected the 1st time. I'm also pretty sure that the Kings would've been more than willing to pay more than that 4 year $34million* offer he got from NO too.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

RYNO is not worth a max extension...I really hope the Kings wouldn't be the team to give it to him either.

Anderson turned away the Kings the last time we went after him... so I don't see a real reason to really pursue a local player after we got rejected the 1st time. I'm also pretty sure that the Kings would've been more than willing to pay more than that 4 year $36million offer he got from NO too.

he's not what we need anyway

 

[206Fan]

he's not what we need anyway

I think he's exactly what we need, but anywhere near the max is a no.

We need a stretch 4 alongside Cousins. Unless WCS can really prove his worth on the defensive side, I don't see him as a great fit with Cousins because of his offense.
Since Rondo can't shoot, adding a player like RYNO would be great for floor spacing.

Rondo-Ben?-Gay-Anderson-Cousins.

This would allow more room for Cousins to play in the paint, and allow Gay to work his away around the basket. The major consider would be on defense, but Anderson has been surprisingly, a solid rebounder this year.

 

[SacTownKid]

Why use any asset now?

He's free to do as he pleases as UFA after this season.

We should take a look in free agency.

OK, this is under the assumption he'll overlook other opportunities to play in his home town? I think he's a perfect fit next to Cousins and you can't risk being left at the alter in yet another free agency, especially one where you are fighting with pretty much every other team able to throw around max deals.

 

[Darth Divac]

Well, I'd absolutely love to add him, but the trade would be costly. Why not just wait an extra half a season to add him in free agency, without giving up assets?

 

[Jojimbo]

I'd rather wait on him, if he gets moved I don't think it's gonna be long term, he'll test free agency anyway. We don't need to use assets, the few that we have, when we need to potentially replace Ben if he doesn't break out. I'm not worried about PF, WCS will be fine, we need a SG.

 

[gil renard]

He would be a nice addition, but I'd wait until FA to see what happens. Doesn't make sense to give up assets to get a player rental you likely can't re-sign, unless you're a team that's going for a championship, which we're clearly not.

 

[randymoss1881]

He'd take our offense to another lever while opening up lanes for Rondo. I think this will put DMC back in the paint permanently as well teams don't leave Anderson.
Karl is gonna play rondo 37mpg anyway so backup pg isn't a dire need if DC is traded. I'd do DC/KK for Anderson/ ish smith. WCS can play 20-25mpg off the bench while developing. If we win 40games I don't see Anderson/Rondo leaving.

Pick and roll with DMC and rondo would be borderline unstopable with Anderson's man standing at the 3point line.

 

[mac]

If it means less Cousins on the perimeter by all means find a reasonable way to get him.

 

[KingsFanGER]

I like Anderson, because he is not the usual soft, stretch-4 guy, but can and will take the ball inside if possible. And this Dirk-line one legged step back jumper, he added to his game this offseason is just a heck of a weapon.
But at the same time I hate his game, because he has so much confidence in his scoring ability, that he appears to be somewhat like a black hole on offense.
This mindest may be related to his role as an offensive bench spark plug.

 

[HighFlyingMonkey]

Well, I'd absolutely love to add him, but the trade would be costly. Why not just wait an extra half a season to add him in free agency, without giving up assets?

We probably won't have the capspace to go after him in Free Agency. We will be at $68.1m in salary next season and even if the cap leaps to $89m like expected we'll need all that room to resign Rondo. That's the downside of doing a low-risk one year deal with Rondo. We have no Bird Rights to go over the cap with to keep him.

If we want Ryan Anderson, our only bet is to trade for him. He's an expiring contract too, but if we trade for him we'll get his Bird Rights. That will let us go over the cap after we resign Rondo to keep him.

 

[bajaden]

We probably won't have the capspace to go after him in Free Agency. We will be at $68.1m in salary next season and even if the cap leaps to $89m like expected we'll need all that room to resign Rondo. That's the downside of doing a low-risk one year deal with Rondo. We have no Bird Rights to go over the cap with to keep him.

If we want Ryan Anderson, our only bet is to trade for him. He's an expiring contract too, but if we trade for him we'll get his Bird Rights. That will let us go over the cap after we resign Rondo to keep him.

Well you beat me to it. We get his bird rights which would give us more flexibility during the signing period. The real plus, is that we get to drive the car and see how we like it. If he fits well, and he likes the fit as well, then it's easier to sell him on resigning with us. I see no connection between Koufos and Anderson. One is strictly a center, and the other is strictly a PF. Although Anderson is perceived as a stretch four, and he can certainly play that role, he's quite capable of posting up, and rebounding. If I have an issue with him it's that he's been injured a lot lately. He's averaged playing in 57 games a year for the last 7 seven season. The closest he ever came to playing a full season was a few years ago when he played in 81 games. I don't want to pick on him. He's had some serious tragedy in his life.

The plus of having him is that Rudy wouldn't have to fill in at PF any more. Another reason for doing the deal now, is that were trying to win now. Yes, he might take some minutes away from WCS, but Willie is out for 4 to 6 weeks now anyway. He would certainly make life easier for Cuz on the offensive side of the ball. The question of course is who would we give up for him? That's the hard part. Anderson is making 8.5 mil a year. I have suggestions, but I'll keep them to myself for now.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

The question of course is who would we give up for him? That's the hard part. Anderson is making 8.5 mil a year. I have suggestions, but I'll keep them to myself for now.

The real question is, who on the roster -- other than Cuz and Rondo -- would the Pels reasonably consider trading Anderson to get? And, as everyone knows, the Kings don't have draft picks to include.

 

[206Fan]

The real question is, who on the roster -- other than Cuz and Rondo -- would the Pels reasonably consider trading Anderson to get? And, as everyone knows, the Kings don't have draft picks to include.

Unless we're willing to part away from either Kofus, Casspi, or WCS, the only thing left would be our 2016 1st round pick. Top 3 or top 5 protected if it's possible.

I'd bet NO jumps on a deal like that immediately since the Kings aren't looking to good right now. Very realistic chance that our pick could fall between 5-14.

I hope Vlade wouldn't do a silly trade like that though..high risk...??? reward.

 

[gil renard]

Unless we're willing to part away from either Kofus, Casspi, or WCS, the only thing left would be our 2016 1st round pick. Top 3 or top 5 protected if it's possible.

I'd bet NO jumps on a deal like that immediately since the Kings aren't looking to good right now. Very realistic chance that our pick could fall between 5-14.

I hope Vlade wouldn't do a silly trade like that though..high risk...??? reward.

Isn't Chicago still owed that pick though if it falls outside of the top 5? I don't even think we're allowed to trade a first rounder until like 2019 or something.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

The real question is, who on the roster -- other than Cuz and Rondo -- would the Pels reasonably consider trading Anderson to get? And, as everyone knows, the Kings don't have draft picks to include.

I wouldn't hold my breath on this one.

In a one-for-one trade we would have to send back at least $5.6M in salary (and, since the Pelicans have 15 guys under contract, we can't really send multiple guys for one - we'd pretty much have to take players back one-for-one, increasing the amount of salary we have to send out, unless the Pelicans were to cut guys in order to make the trade).

We only have five guys who could match the salary in the first place. Cousins and Rondo are obviously off the table. So that means that either Kosta, Marco, or Rudy (or some sort of package deal involving Collison + say Butler for Anderson and say Babbitt). That's the only possible package from our side.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Isn't Chicago still owed that pick though if it falls outside of the top 5? I don't even think we're allowed to trade a first rounder until like 2019 or something.

We aren't allowed to make a trade that could result in us not having a first-round pick in two consecutive future drafts. Now this is where it gets complicated:

We might convey a first rounder to Chicago in either 2016 or 2017 depending on our record. This means that we can't promise a pick in 2016 (because we might have to give away 2017) or in 2017 (because we might have to give away 2016). This is why we have the pick swap stuff with Philly. Now our 2018 pick (1-10 protected, if we convey to Chicago in 2016) or our 2019 pick (unprotected, if not already conveyed in 2018) will go to Philly as well. This means that 2018, 2019, and 2020 are also out of bounds for now. We can't trade an unencumbered first-rounder until 2021.

A summary, can the pick be traded:
2016: No. May go to Chicago (11-30). Conditional swap already with Philly if not conveyed to Chicago.
2017: No. May go to Chicago (11-30, if not conveyed in 2016). Conditional swap already with Philly if not conveyed to Chicago.
2018: No. May go to Philly (11-30, if 2016 goes to Chicago).
2019: No. Will go to Philly unless 2018 goes to Philly.
2020: No. Could be traded after 2018 if 2018 goes to Philly.
2021: Yes, but not together with 2022.
2022: Yes, but not together with 2021.
2023-: No. Cannot be traded due to seven-year rule.

So, basically, we can trade away either 2021 OR 2022 (or some conditional combination thereof that could result in only one pick being conveyed) and that's it. We can still make conditional pick swaps, however. In fact, there doesn't seem to be any reason we couldn't make a conditional pick swap on top of a conditional pick swap (e.g. if our pick is not conveyed to Chicago in 2016, we get the lower of our pick and Philly's pick. We could, on the condition that we do not convey to Chicago in 2016 trade the lower of our pick and Philly's pick to New Orleans for their 2016 pick, if it is lower than the one we have.) But that does get pretty hairy pretty quick.

 

[randymoss1881]

Guys NO will want Collison they already benched Smith and Holiday isn't Holiday anymore.

 

[New Era]

Guys NO will want Collison they already benched Smith and Holiday isn't Holiday anymore.

I'd do that trade. Collision for RA straight up. Not sure if the salaries work or not. Could be a trade that would help both teams. The Rondo-Collision backcourt doesn't work and you could just have Curry take the backup PG role and play 10 min a game.

 

[206Fan]

Guys NO will want Collison they already benched Smith and Holiday isn't Holiday anymore.

Even at this point, Holiday is still playing at the same level Collison is.

Holiday 17 games- 22mpg 11.8pts 4.7asts 1.8rebs 0.9stls 2.5tos 42% fg 39% 3pt

Collison 19 games- 29mpg 13.1pts 3.9asts 1.6rebs 0.9stls 1.7tos 43% fg 34% 3pt

Aside from Smith and Holiday, let's not forget that they have Evans, Cole, and Douglas all at PG. I'm not sure they'd want Collison as much as they want someone like Casspi. Barring injuries, I don't think they'd accept a trade for Collison because they have pretty good depth there.

 

[notoriousBEN3]

Even at this point, Holiday is still playing at the same level Collison is.

Holiday 17 games- 22mpg 11.8pts 4.7asts 1.8rebs 0.9stls 2.5tos 42% fg 39% 3pt

Collison 19 games- 29mpg 13.1pts 3.9asts 1.6rebs 0.9stls 1.7tos 43% fg 34% 3pt

Aside from Smith and Holiday, let's not forget that they have Evans, Cole, and Douglas all at PG. I'm not sure they'd want Collison as much as they want someone like Casspi. Barring injuries, I don't think they'd accept a trade for Collison because they have pretty good depth there.

Keep in mind Darren's role has been significantly reduced since Rondo got here. His numbers were pretty good last year, though he was playing a few more minutes. He's still a valuable player, and most importantly, i think they hired Gentry over there to do that fast paced offense thing. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i think Gentry wants the team to run, and Darren happens to be stellar in transition. He's also on a cheaper deal than Jrue, so in theory, if they could move Jrue, they might have more money to spend on other guys in the future.

 

[ockingsfan]

Ryan Anderson for Darren collision works for me.

As long as we don't need to trade WCS, I think this trade would make one of our weakest position, all of a sudden, one our strengths.

Ryan Anderson would be an instant fan favorite, being from Sacramento. He could start or be a sixth man. Also, moves Curry into back up point guard.

RA for DC and Butler works on realgm.

This could be a win-win for both teams.

 

[twslam07]

Ryan Anderson for Darren collision works for me.

As long as we don't need to trade WCS, I think this trade would make our weakest position, all of a sudden, one our strengths.

Ryan Anderson would be an instant fan favorite, being from Sacramento. He could start or be a sixth man. Also, moves Curry into back up point guard.

RA for DC and Butler works on realgm.

This could be a win-win for both teams.

I was thinking about something like this earlier, but I think you need to be getting a veteran PG back (like Norris Cole). I don't like the idea of only having two PGs on the roster (especially with one of them still being a bit of an unknown at this point).

On the flip side, why would the Pelicans do this deal? They have Holiday, Evans, Gordon, & Cole eating basically all of the guard minutes. Where does Collison fit into that rotation? Unless they want to under utilize Evans and put him at SF (like we did), there's really no place for him on the team. That's why I'm thinking it would have to be a 3 way trade to make it work. One that either sends Collison to New Orleans and Holiday to a 3rd team or one where we trade Collison to the 3rd team and the 3rd team sends an asset to New Orleans. That's how I see a deal like this working.