Royce White

Should we sign him?

  • Yes please!

    Votes: 11 21.6%
  • Ummm...what?

    Votes: 3 5.9%
  • Good god no

    Votes: 30 58.8%
  • Who?

    Votes: 7 13.7%

  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed .
Anxiety disorders

Almost never, never, never is the disorder limited to one area of life.
Anyone who says he just needs to suck it up is not educated in the disorder.
If White has only tried Benadryl and Xanax, he has never seen a psychiatrist.
Anxiety disorders get worse as the years pass.

I would never, ever sign White unless he agreed to REAL treatment. If he agreed to see a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist could relate to him, like a guy from Minnesota, this could be a major steal.
I did get the the impression from the video clip/documented that Iowa DID have White working with a mental health professional, but I could be wrong.
 
I did get the the impression from the video clip/documented that Iowa DID have White working with a mental health professional, but I could be wrong.

I said psychiatrist. Social workers are mental health professionals. Psychologists are mental health professionals. At a university he may have been treated by someone in training. Anxiety disorders are difficult to treat. They require the best and in this case it is a psychiatrist. It is only psychiatrists that can prescribe the incredible number of medications that might help. What commonly occurs is that a person is sent to a social worker who then tells a rimary care physician (internist hopefully) what to prescribe.

Would a lawyer send his legal aide in to try a murder case? Not all "mental health professionals" are created the same.

I was as good as anyone I know in treating anxiety disorders and there are many reasons for that.
 
Anxiety disorders

Almost never, never, never is the disorder limited to one area of life.
Anyone who says he just needs to suck it up is not educated in the disorder.
If White has only tried Benadryl and Xanax, he has never seen a psychiatrist.
Anxiety disorders get worse as the years pass.

I would never, ever sign White unless he agreed to REAL treatment. If he agreed to see a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist could relate to him, like a guy from Minnesota, this could be a major steal.

How do you know he hasn't or isn't currently getting treatment from a psychiatrist?
 
On days like this, D'Alessandro seems less like an architect, and more like a demolitions expert.

totally disagree. He was immediately assigned to the D-League. Again he has 1st rd talent. its a low risk high reward flyer. If he works out great. If not theres not much to complain about. In fact it would be expected.
 
How do you know he hasn't or isn't currently getting treatment from a psychiatrist?

I don't. Did you read my note? I said I wouldn't sign him unless he was being treated by a psychiatrist or agreed to being treated.
 
totally disagree. He was immediately assigned to the D-League. Again he has 1st rd talent. its a low risk high reward flyer. If he works out great. If not theres not much to complain about. In fact it would be expected.
First Of All™, what would be expected? The only thing that can be expected out of Royce White is craziness/self-indulgence/self-importance/the unexpected. And, in the second place, if it works out, then we have six power forwards on the roster, instead of five. Hooray!
 
I don't. Did you read my note? I said I wouldn't sign him unless he was being treated by a psychiatrist or agreed to being treated.

Yes, I read your "note" although it was written more like a Haiku poem so it was hard to understand. You're making the assumption that if he's only been prescribed Xanax, then he's never seen a psychiatrist? How do you come to that assumption? Are you an MD? You don't think shrinks Rx Xanax? Also, it's possible that he has seen a psychiatrist and has been prescribed different meds but maybe he's keeping that private and away from the media.
 
Man if Pete can get Royce White going in the right direction the kings would have a steal. Because their is no doubt White can ball.
 
Yes, I read your "note" although it was written more like a Haiku poem so it was hard to understand. You're making the assumption that if he's only been prescribed Xanax, then he's never seen a psychiatrist? How do you come to that assumption? Are you an MD? You don't think shrinks Rx Xanax? Also, it's possible that he has seen a psychiatrist and has been prescribed different meds but maybe he's keeping that private and away from the media.

I'm a psychiatrist.
 
I'm a psychiatrist.

Oh! LOL...okay, well then you obviously know more about this stuff than I do. My apologies.

So, in your professional opinion, he HAS NOT seen a psychiatrist? That is troubling to me because at least he has control over that. He can take that step and see if it could help with his disorder.
 
Glenn I'm sure you are well aware many people don't believe in going to psychiatrists because they feel like they are walking Rx pads vs psychologists who spend more time on behavior modification.
 
I said commercial airliner or in this case charter flight or team aircraft. Not general aviation smaller planes which is more dangerous but still quite safe - "generally."

Yes, I was using commercial airliner data. That one is "thousands of times, even millions times more likely to be killed driving to the airport" is just wrong. More like 10-100, depending on the distance of the drive to the airport and the distance of the flight.
 

White looks like a really big point guard with a really high basketball IQ. Always looking to make the right play. I hope White can get it figured out. Because we can definitely use those skills on the Kings team. Also add's a possible of another beard to the roster!
 
Think he'd feel supported if a bunch of Kings fans show up at the Reno airpo....I mean, Greyhound Station to greet him?

OK, j/k. I don't think he's ready overall, but if the Kings can get him to Reno and evaluate first hand, this is a very good way to go. If it goes good there, then a few NBA games this year. A whole offseason to work on his anxiety with a plan and goal. Go from there.

Basketball wise, he is an interesting mix of size and ball handling. Could be a very nice option to play backup PowerPG off the bench so IT can score...
 
Oh! LOL...okay, well then you obviously know more about this stuff than I do. My apologies.

So, in your professional opinion, he HAS NOT seen a psychiatrist? That is troubling to me because at least he has control over that. He can take that step and see if it could help with his disorder.

All I can say comes from what he has said.

I don't know of any psychiatrist that would prescribe Benadryl for anything. If Xanax is the only psychotropic he has been prescribed, and I only have his word on that, he has a totally unimaginative psychiatrist.

I don't want to go into any details as I don't know White and a general discourse on anxiety disorders would mean I should write a book. Hence my haiku.
 
Glenn I'm sure you are well aware many people don't believe in going to psychiatrists because they feel like they are walking Rx pads vs psychologists who spend more time on behavior modification.

I didn't know that. I sure as hell didn't go to 12 years post high school to become a walking prescription pad.
 
First Of All™, what would be expected? The only thing that can be expected out of Royce White is craziness/self-indulgence/self-importance/the unexpected. And, in the second place, if it works out, then we have six power forwards on the roster, instead of five. Hooray!

Lol! Im pretty sure there will be another round of this team being overhauled come draft time. Terry, Acy, Evans, even Outlaw will be movable pieces with only 1 year left on their contracts. Its obvious that Pete is also open to trading both JT and IT. IT+ one or two of those contracts and some 2nd round picks might be enough to bring back a legit overpaid player like Rudy Gay was pre TOR trade.

Seriously if we can get a player like Rudy Gay for Salmons/P-Pat/GV . IT and friends should be able to get someone even better. I wouldn't rule out Ben McL's trade value. Its at a total low point. But with only one year under his belt on a team the league still seems to think is a joke (i don't) I think someone out there probably had a draft crush on him and would be willing or prideful enough to think THEY could fix him or provide a better environment for him. Lots of players have ended up just fine after dismal 1st years.

Kevin Martin 1st pro year: FG% .385 3pt% .200 Reb 1.3 Pts 2.9
Ben McL 1st pro year: FG% .360 3pt% .316 Reb 2.8 Pts 7.5
 
Yes, I was using commercial airliner data. That one is "thousands of times, even millions times more likely to be killed driving to the airport" is just wrong. More like 10-100, depending on the distance of the drive to the airport and the distance of the flight.

No, you are wrong. The odds of dying in commercial aircraft crash are 1 in 11 million chances. The odds of dying in vehicle road crash are 1 in 5000. Do the math, you're wrong. Here's proof.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/how-risky-is-flying.html
 
Is there any reason in particular why the data you're working with is eight years old?

Are you serious? There's no data to suggest commercial airline deaths and road deaths are significantly different eight years ago vs. today. This debate is boring - I'm on to something else or at least back to what kind of basketball player Royce White is.
 
I've been thinking about White's anxiety disorder and what can be done about it if anything. Surely steps to resolve it or mitigate worst forms affecting him can and should be taken.

Flying on a commercial airliner is the most safe form of transportation on planet earth. You are thousands of times, even millions times more likely to be killed driving to the airport to board the aircraft than killed in plane crash. For years as a youngster I had certain fear of heights. I recall once standing on the rim of the Grand Canyon and looking down. Fear suddenly consumed me and while others edged closer to get better look I wanted to stay well back. I was around 10 years old at the time. It was only phobia (acrophobia) I ever really had. But after a few plane rides by my teen years the anxiety seemed to fade into history. Since that time I've taken hundreds of flights all over the world and a fear of heights issue or flying paranoia is now completely gone, like I never really had such "silly problem." For me, it was about growing older, maturing, learning, and slowly letting go of such fear - at least in its most debilitating form.


I take it you don't watch those crazy Russian guys that hang from towers by one hand without anything connecting them to the structure when 1500ft up? That stuff makes my hands sweat watching them. If you haven't seen it you should google it. These guys are insane. They have climbed a lot of different structures and have pretty much defied death on all of them.
 
I didn't know that. I sure as hell didn't go to 12 years post high school to become a walking prescription pad.


Well I didn't say you specifically. But it's pretty well believed that psychiatrists treat problems with drugs and psychologists treat the problem with behavior modification. Obviously a psychiatrist can do both and a psychologist can't without the help of an MD.

A lot of people stray away from going to a psychiatrist for that reason.
 
Well I didn't say you specifically. But it's pretty well believed that psychiatrists treat problems with drugs and psychologists treat the problem with behavior modification. Obviously a psychiatrist can do both and a psychologist can't without the help of an MD.

A lot of people stray away from going to a psychiatrist for that reason.
There's also that little stigma of being characterized as a nut. Guilty just by going.
 
Well I didn't say you specifically. But it's pretty well believed that psychiatrists treat problems with drugs and psychologists treat the problem with behavior modification. Obviously a psychiatrist can do both and a psychologist can't without the help of an MD.

A lot of people stray away from going to a psychiatrist for that reason.

That's too bad.
 
There's also that little stigma of being characterized as a nut. Guilty just by going.


That too, it's one thing to go to a therapist its another to go to someone who deals with psychotics who absolutely need drugs and the stigma that carries.
 
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