Kingzrool
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One might say that Prince's style has more soul than Satriani's.
Rock Band Draft - Round 6 (Wrap Up)
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One might say that Prince's style has more soul than Satriani's.
Oh nos!
NoBonus
Starter
I cannot argue that...
John Galt
Starter
frankly neither one grabs me by the short and curlies although their virtuosity is unreproachable...
but I don't believe it is necessary in rock to designate a "lead" and a "rhythm" player. Too often the molds are broken.
Molly Hatchet comes to mind. 3 kicken guitar players. Period. No roles.
Kingzrool
Starter
Back-up or Lead Vox? You need to assign one member lead and others back-up, however in your wrap-up, you can can state things like "such and such player is assigned back-up vox, but s/he sings lead half of the time". I put Lead Vox on the draft board, but I can change it.
Kingzrool
Starter
As I stated, I would like them assigned lead, rhythm, 2nd lead, 3rd lead. But in the wrap-up you are free to explain that the rhythm may bust a lead or two or whatever.
You're thinking mono, not stereo. Listen to Appetite for Destruction to see where I'm headed. Besides, with labels I'm merely conforming to the rules of the draft. You'll notice I have him as "2nd" lead. Satriani would have no problems blending in w/ Prince, but I wonder if it would work the other way around...
He will not be the "lead vocalist", but can you please just leave it as "vocals"? It will all make sense in the end, give me some latitude?
SacKings7
Starter
Agreed.
Question for Kingzrool. Since this draft will cause a lot of us to go in different directions because of picks that we will lose to others, if I pick a member and assign him/her duties, can I change those duties at any time afterwards?
Personally, I'd be for it, but I wouldn't recommend it based on all the havoc it may create. You'd be able to draft a multi-talented individual and be able to change him based on the fact that you didn't get the person you wanted for your 4th pick.
In its current format, I think the draft rules add an element of strategery that may not have before existed.
Kingzrool
Starter
hmmmmm. I think that that would be fine. All changes under this exception need to happen shortly after the pick that throws off your strategy and a full explanation will be required. If you are worried about divulging your strategy, explanation can be via PM to me. No assignment changes can occur during write-up, just assignment embellishments. I do not see how this could throw off other participants strategy. If anyone is adamantly against this decision, let me know.
John Galt
Starter
so for example... if I had my heart set on Stevie Wonder to play piano and sing lead vocals - then I could make a back channel appeal to the commissioner to let me make Paul my lead vocal (with or without a switch to piano)? Is that what you mean?
I think this is a sticky direction. I could notice that a talented vocal/bassist remains on the board, a guy I figured to get snatched up. Seeing the availability of a "better" bass/vocal guy - I might conjure up a BS excuse (like the one above) just to free up my band to take the "other bassist".
I think you either make it a free-for-all with liberal role switches... or you keep it as is - where you have to pin down the primary role at the time you select. After all, prognosticating who will and who will not remain on the board for your next turn is definitely a part of selection strategy.
I don't like the "appeal to the commish" role changes because a selection you coveted was snagged by an opponent.
By the way, I still think a guitar player is a guitar player, but will go along with the rules.
I think this is a sticky direction. I could notice that a talented vocal/bassist remains on the board, a guy I figured to get snatched up. Seeing the availability of a "better" bass/vocal guy - I might conjure up a BS excuse (like the one above) just to free up my band to take the "other bassist".
I think you either make it a free-for-all with liberal role switches... or you keep it as is - where you have to pin down the primary role at the time you select. After all, prognosticating who will and who will not remain on the board for your next turn is definitely a part of selection strategy.
I don't like the "appeal to the commish" role changes because a selection you coveted was snagged by an opponent.
By the way, I still think a guitar player is a guitar player, but will go along with the rules.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Note that this could apply to my next pick, so this may not be a neutral comment, nonethless I would think that unless it were restricted in some reasonable fashion to matters of degree -- i.e. basically just backup vocalists being able to be promoted to lead vocalists, or rhythm guitarists being promoted to leads -- that allowing free swapping of roles just mean that there would be no point in declaring roles at all until the put it all together stage. You just collect 5 musicians and explain what they all do at the end.
John Galt
Starter
Anybody have SLAB's cell phone number? 
By the way please clarify the rule on roles.. it could change my plans if I will have lattitude to redefine roles if my "next hoped for pick" gets taken.
I think the rules should stay how they are and I will swallow hard and designate a "lead guitar player"
By the way please clarify the rule on roles.. it could change my plans if I will have lattitude to redefine roles if my "next hoped for pick" gets taken.
I think the rules should stay how they are and I will swallow hard and designate a "lead guitar player"
I suggest we stick with the "live performance" criteria and drop the mandatory sub-categories (which weren't in the rules at the top of the thread). Obviously someone can't play both guitar parts at the same time, but two guitarists can alternate leads, and bands with one guitarist routinely perform solos live.
Of course allowing them to be optional is good if you want to feature that aspect of your performer.
I have no opinion on switching. It seems to be a major rule change, but I don't really see a reason why not.
Of course allowing them to be optional is good if you want to feature that aspect of your performer.
I have no opinion on switching. It seems to be a major rule change, but I don't really see a reason why not.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Isn't that what we wanted to do in the beginning?
No actually I thought having the designations was a good idea to promote competition and strategy. I was just summarizing the obvious: an argument for letting you switch up people's roles is the same as no roles at all until the end.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
Roger Waters
Bass + Backing Vocals
-Pink Floyd-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Waters
Man oh man this is nothing like I was expecting this thing to look like....
The psychedelic trippyness of this guy would meld quite well with the various styles of Mr. Mercury.
I see him working off of Mercury who is the main vocalist with pre-chorus slow downs and some occasional full verses.
Now I need to decided what to do with the rest of my band...Im stuck now.
On bass with supporting Vox...
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Bass + Backing Vocals
-Pink Floyd-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Waters
Man oh man this is nothing like I was expecting this thing to look like....
The psychedelic trippyness of this guy would meld quite well with the various styles of Mr. Mercury.
I see him working off of Mercury who is the main vocalist with pre-chorus slow downs and some occasional full verses.
Now I need to decided what to do with the rest of my band...Im stuck now.
On bass with supporting Vox...
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Kingzrool
Starter
I am going to make this more labor intensive and take any roll changes on a case-by-case basis. Plan your picks as if requests will not be granted. You may under absolutely no circumstances change a pick. If you feel like your entire strategy is screwed because you delegated rhythm guitar to someone who you want to have lead, good chance. Because your planned lead vocalist has been picked you want to change a back-up vox to lead vox, good chance. Changing instruments entirely is not going to happen.
All role change requests must be PM'd to myself with a full explanation. Again, a lot of this can be settled in the wrap-up. There will be a lot of free reign given in the wrap-up. I really want to avoid just picking names and assigning duties at the end. There needs to be some level of format.
Was that commishy enough?
All role change requests must be PM'd to myself with a full explanation. Again, a lot of this can be settled in the wrap-up. There will be a lot of free reign given in the wrap-up. I really want to avoid just picking names and assigning duties at the end. There needs to be some level of format.
Was that commishy enough?
SacKings7
Starter
To clarify, I didn't mean drastically change roles, I just meant switch from lead to rhythm, backup to lead (and vice versa), and maybe even drop some "backup" roles.
SacKings7
Starter
Great pick. I can't believe it took almost 2 rounds for a Stone to go. Not in my top 5 guitarists, but a very good pick nonetheless.
John Galt
Starter
Not in my top 5 guitarists either.
But I want bigger than life personas, and for my money, nobody has ever been more at home with being a rock star than Keith.
Now I just gotta get Yngwie to play rhythm guitar...shhhhh
tradepeja
Starter
Alright, I just can't effing decide who to take on lead. Maybe SacKings will take one of them and make my decision easier.
So, I'll take a drummer. One considered by many to be the best ever.
Neil Peart - Drums / Xylophone / Percussion (from Rush)
I had to go with my head over my heart here. I might have taken another drummer here one very highly revered (and more recent). Maybe I should have, his style isn't too different from Peart. Other than the fact that he invented his own drum scheme where he drums in a pentagram.
Anyway, Peart is the best available and I think he'll fit my band perfectly. Plus, his drumset alone would be a reason to buy a ticket for my bind. That thing is nuts! Just look at it! Here's a great vid of him in action.
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even better here in '81 recording Tom Sawyer
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So, I'll take a drummer. One considered by many to be the best ever.
Neil Peart - Drums / Xylophone / Percussion (from Rush)
I had to go with my head over my heart here. I might have taken another drummer here one very highly revered (and more recent). Maybe I should have, his style isn't too different from Peart. Other than the fact that he invented his own drum scheme where he drums in a pentagram.
Anyway, Peart is the best available and I think he'll fit my band perfectly. Plus, his drumset alone would be a reason to buy a ticket for my bind. That thing is nuts! Just look at it! Here's a great vid of him in action.
[yt=Peart playing 2112]jPMT-2p8NBU[/yt]
even better here in '81 recording Tom Sawyer
[yt=1981]BmW51ih8kR4[/yt]
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Prophetess
Gallifrayain
Alright, I just can't effing decide who to take on lead. Maybe SacKings will take one of them and make my decision easier.
So, I'll take a drummer. One considered by many to be the best ever.
Neil Peart - Drums / Xylophone / Percussion (from Rush)
I had to go with my head over my heart here. I might have taken another drummer here one very highly revered (and more recent). Maybe I should have, his style isn't too different from Peart. Other than the fact that he invented his own drum scheme where he drums in a pentagram.
Anyway, Peart is the best available and I think he'll fit my band perfectly. Plus, his drumset alone would be a reason to buy a ticket for my bind. That thing is nuts! Just look at it! Here's a great vid of him in action.
[yt=Peart playing 2112]jPMT-2p8NBU[/yt]
every drummer i've ever talked to, acknowledges him as one of the very best. very nice pick.
SacKings7
Starter
Damn, he was my #2 drummer behind Moon. Great choice.
SacKings7
Starter
And finally it's back to me. I CANNOT BELIEVE this guy fell back to me. He was one of the 4 I considered taking #1 overall.
My band is proud to welcome:
Jimmy Page - Lead Guitar #2 / Rhythm (From Led Zeppelin)
I was kinda bummed when I saw that I had the first overall pick, because I wanted 2 out of Hendrix, Slash, Angus, and Page. Looks like I lucked out (or maybe there are just no Zeppelin fans here?).
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My band is proud to welcome:
Jimmy Page - Lead Guitar #2 / Rhythm (From Led Zeppelin)
I was kinda bummed when I saw that I had the first overall pick, because I wanted 2 out of Hendrix, Slash, Angus, and Page. Looks like I lucked out (or maybe there are just no Zeppelin fans here?).
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SLAB
Hall of Famer
Alright, I just can't effing decide who to take on lead. Maybe SacKings will take one of them and make my decision easier.
So, I'll take a drummer. One considered by many to be the best ever.
Neil Peart - Drums / Xylophone / Percussion (from Rush)
!@#%1%!#$!%@3451@#$%!@351
Right after I posted my waste of a pick I literally shouted "NEIL PEART! What are you thinking!"
Crud Im destined for a first round oust.
