Right fit for the Kings: Keep Adelman, lose Stojakovic

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http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/9084717/2

Dec. 8, 2005
By Tony Mejia
CBS SportsLine.com Staff Writer


The first quarter of the season is nearly in the books, and preseason Pacific Division favorite Sacramento sits in last place, four games under .500. At Arco Arena, still one of the toughest places in the league to play, they're 6-6, seemingly having lost the aura of invincibility they once enjoyed.


Peja Stojakovic is just 6-for-24 on 3-point shots in his last five games. (Getty Images)
It's time for change. Time for a revamped image. Time to part ways with their longest tenured player, Peja Stojakovic.

No doubt, the easiest thing for the Kings to do -- considering he has yet to be secured for next season -- is to part ways with Rick Adelman. But turnarounds aren't going to be achieved by taking the easy route. The man has won 50 games in five consecutive seasons, which is certainly why he was so ticked the organization went sniffing around for Phil Jackson during the offseason. He has cultivated the same winning atmosphere despite having new personnel to incorporate, but the fact is that while newcomers Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Bonzi Wells have responded well and added toughness, holdovers Mike Bibby, Brad Miller and Stojakovic have been, in a word, disappointing.

Adelman is not the problem. Blaming him for the Kings' demise follows the popular trend of removing all accountability from the athletes when they're not performing as they should.

It happened earlier this year in baseball when clouds of speculation surrounded Joe Torre when the Yankees' overspending didn't breed results. Never mind Randy Johnson was disappointing, the bullpen couldn't hold a lead and the roster was aging -- he was the target. It happened just last week in Detroit, where the Lions, after their "genius" of drafting receiver after receiver in the first round, delivered another sorry squad. Out went Steve Mariucci. Never mind that the team has no offensive line or quarterback and is clearly poorly constructed. Mooch went down as the fall guy, too nice to win in the pros.

So here we are with Adelman, and with Kings President Geoff Petrie, one of the brightest basketball men in the business, having to deflect controversy.

"Rick is our coach until he is no longer our coach," Petrie told reporters earlier this week. "That's the way it's always been."

Sure, boot Adelman if the losing continues, because clearly, he has forgotten how to coach. It's his fault Bibby can't put together consistent efforts, Miller no longer offers resistance inside and Stojakovic can't shoot straight.

"I'll look on my desk, but there's no five-year contract there or anything, so I'm in the same situation as when the season started," Adelman told the Sacramento Bee. "It behooves me to try to go out and get this team to win."

"It hasn't been easy these last three games, trust me. I don't know what the future holds, because we have a tough schedule."

The clock is ticking on his departure, even if it's undeserved. If you're of the rationale to fire him, then maybe New York should end the Larry Brown experiment because the Knicks aren't learning fast enough? Phil Jackson's return in L.A. should be a short one, because few understand his offense?

Sacramento can't move Bibby or Miller -- point guards and centers of their caliber are simply too hard to find. Moving Stojakovic, particularly since he can opt out next season and does have suitors, is a no-brainer, and it should be done sooner than later.

Over the past five games, Stojakovic is 16-for-62 from the field, including 6-for-24 from 3-point range. Awful. A player who doesn't bring much harmony to the offense outside of his ability to spot up and drain the jumper becomes a liability if he's not doing just that. It's not like you can say, well, he's got to be out there because he's playing such solid defense.

Mind you, it's understood that part of his struggles can be attributed to the pinky injury that caused him to miss three games in late November and had him wearing a protective glove, but this just shows how one-dimensional the player once considered the greatest shooter in the world actually is.

It's why Chris Webber so often alluded to him as soft, and new teammate Wells implied the same. It's why the Kings actually went 2-1 without him in the lineup. And he has been on the decline, with his shooting percentage dipping over the past five seasons, bottoming out at this year's 40.6 percent clip. Sacramento needs to find him a new home and embrace the tougher persona that Wells can help breed with help from reserves like Kenny Thomas, Corliss Williamson, hard-nosed rookie Francisco Garcia and say, a Luol Deng? Andres Nocioni? Dare we mention Ben Gordon?

How badly does Chicago want Stojakovic, who they pined for in the offseason and are expected to make a push at come July? Are they willing to be patient and scrap for a playoff berth without him, or does John Paxson feel his shooting, if and when he turns it around, can aid his own team's struggling offense?

That's what I'd be on the line finding out if I were Petrie, because getting something for a player who's likely to leave anyway and currently holding my team back would be my chief objective. Deng is a star-in-the-making, as his play lately shows. He's versatile, defends and hustles. Nocioni would offer the same type of roughneck style that has made Wells so many fans early in his Kings tenure. A shooting guard leading the team in boards? Clearly, Sacramento needs added grit over finesse. It's doubtful the Kings can pry away Gordon, but what would it hurt to ask? Get creative, find a way to make the pieces fit.

Officially put the word out there that Stojakovic's available. See who else, besides the Bulls, would bite.

"There's still a ways to go for us (in the season), so we can be optimistic," Stojakovic told the Bee. "We have to stay together and believe in ourselves. That's the only way we can get out of this problem."
 
Quite frankly, with the Bulls, I don't think Peja for Gordon would be the deal or near the most we can get for Peja. I hope. Bee Gee wouldn't come as filler either, I don't think...

It'd have to be Deng or Nocioni as the main piece for Peja. I think Deng would be the first choice, and Nocioni the second. I'd ultimately hope for Deng :). The guy is so versatile, it's just such a joy to watch.
 
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We should have traded him last year, we are going to get way less value now. At this point I don't know what we should(or really can) do.
 
All I know is that I hope we do not lose on this trade like we did on the Webber deal. What was Petrie think when I first heard the news(Webber trade) I thought we were getting Dalmbert. Please Petrie do the best you can in any trade you do we can not afford to lose talent just for flexible contracts.
 
AleksandarN said:
when I first heard the news(Webber trade) I thought we were getting Dalmbert.

Me too. I still remember feeling crushed (seeing Webb was traded), then excited (at the thought of getting Dalambert), then crushed again (seeing what we got).
 
LPKingsFan said:
Me too. I still remember feeling crushed (seeing Webb was traded), then excited (at the thought of getting Dalambert), then crushed again (seeing what we got).

haha, I was working at a Warriors game that night. Against the Hawks. I only had to work the 1st half, and in the 2nd I could find a seat and watch. So I'm sitting there, 15 rows behind the Hawks bench, heckling 'Toine. First a guy about 5 rows up jumps up with his phone to his ear during a timeout and screams "WE GOT RANDY MOSS!!!!" And I was like, "oh what a perfect fit for the Raiders." And Raider fans were high fiving and celebrating.

A few minutes later my brother calls. "The Kings made a trade," he said. "Peja? Was it Peja?"

"No, Webber."
"Oh f-ck. No. No. To who???"
"Sixers."
"Well, obviously not AI. Did we get Igoudala?"
"No."
"Hmm, Dalembert????"
"No."
"Then who?"
"Corliss, Skinner, and Kenny Thomas."

*dead silence for about 20 seconds*

*the F word being screamed at the top of my lungs over and over for about 5 minutes.*

Then I called him back.

"What are their contracts like?"
"Thomas is 6-8M through 2010"
"Oh christ."
"Corliss 6M through 2007"
"WHAT?"
"Skinner 5-6M through 2008."

I then proceeded to bash my head against the seat in front of me for 30 minutes.



:( sad day.
 
grandmastapoop said:
I then proceeded to bash my head against the seat in front of me for 30 minutes.



:( sad day.


Now that explains everything :D
 
Something needs to be done. Anyone else notice how much more scrappy the team plays when Peja is not on the floor. They actually looked like they gave a damn.
 
Ryle said:
Something needs to be done. Anyone else notice how much more scrappy the team plays when Peja is not on the floor. They actually looked like they gave a damn.
I was at the game last night and you're right, the best or most effective lineup last night was Brad, Reef,Kenny, Bonzi and Mike. I know Kenny didn't produce many numbers at all, but they were much more productive and the flow was better when KT was at the 3 and Peja was on the bench.
 
grandmastapoop said:
haha, I was working at a Warriors game that night. Against the Hawks. I only had to work the 1st half, and in the 2nd I could find a seat and watch. So I'm sitting there, 15 rows behind the Hawks bench, heckling 'Toine. First a guy about 5 rows up jumps up with his phone to his ear during a timeout and screams "WE GOT RANDY MOSS!!!!" And I was like, "oh what a perfect fit for the Raiders." And Raider fans were high fiving and celebrating.

A few minutes later my brother calls. "The Kings made a trade," he said. "Peja? Was it Peja?"

"No, Webber."
"Oh f-ck. No. No. To who???"
"Sixers."
"Well, obviously not AI. Did we get Igoudala?"
"No."
"Hmm, Dalembert????"
"No."
"Then who?"
"Corliss, Skinner, and Kenny Thomas."

*dead silence for about 20 seconds*

*the F word being screamed at the top of my lungs over and over for about 5 minutes.*

Then I called him back.

"What are their contracts like?"
"Thomas is 6-8M through 2010"
"Oh christ."
"Corliss 6M through 2007"
"WHAT?"
"Skinner 5-6M through 2008."

I then proceeded to bash my head against the seat in front of me for 30 minutes.



:( sad day.


I think similar conversations were happening among Kings fans everywhere! When I told my husband Webb was gone his first reaction was shock & disappointment, then it was "Well, who did we get?" I had to give him the names twice because he thought I had to be kidding. Finally he resigned himself, "well, at least we must have gotten salary relief, what are their contracts?".... hmmm.. not a happy night in our house!
 
could we trade peja to atlanta for johnson? that'd be nice.....
 
If there is any team that I would want to see Peja go to, it would probably be Atlanta. Isn't Johnson a SG/PG???
 
KingKong said:
If there is any team that I would want to see Peja go to, it would probably be Atlanta. Isn't Johnson a SG/PG???

more importantly, he's 6'8 and is a better fit in on this team than peja.... he can do all of the thing that peja can and more.... i thought he was a g/f who can pass the ball.... which is something we need....
 
peja for JJ doesn't help either team. johnson is a versatile scorer, but again, no defense. i'm fine with wells. he's scrappy, and cheaper.
 
JJ can play D, or at least could previously. He's no star, and is proving this year that he's just a nice upper echelon starter, but he does have great versatility.

Two things:

1) he is horribly overpaid now. GBiving him that max deal is every bit as bad as us giving a max to Peja.

2) What on earth would the Hawks do wiht yet ANOTHER SF? Of all the positions they dod not need or want bodies at, that's the one.
 
let's trade Peja for Marvin Williams?

well, apparently as i see it. Peja's game has been on a decline say..since Divac left? His game isn't just the same since then. sure he had some better games but he was just not the same since then.

also, since Peja came back from that injury we lost 5 of the last 6 games.
 
Diabeticwonder said:
I was at the game last night and you're right, the best or most effective lineup last night was Brad, Reef,Kenny, Bonzi and Mike. I know Kenny didn't produce many numbers at all, but they were much more productive and the flow was better when KT was at the 3 and Peja was on the bench.

I like seeing that big lineup.

According to 82games.com, the Kings' best lineup, in terms of +/- numbers is Bibby-Martin-Wells-SAR-Miller.
 
Softness....

I think Peja still has a lot of trade value and a lot of teams would love to have him. Melo? R. Jefferson?....Jefferson doesn't have that great of stats but he does have more toughness and consistancy. And since Peja's value has gone down they're probably a lot closer of trade. He's right though, P's probably going to leave anyway so we've got to get something for him!
 
Can you imagine Peja playing for Miami? With Shack or Alonzo in the paint drawing double-teams, Peja would have a field day. He might be effective with the Pistons, except someone would beat him up for not rebounding.:)
 
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