kingsfan1984
Starter
I think Lin's contract is over at the end of this year. So I don't mind spending some Vivek cash for a better backup PG in this case
Ramon F Sessions
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I think Lin's contract is over at the end of this year. So I don't mind spending some Vivek cash for a better backup PG in this case
kingsfan1984
Starter
I disagree. I would be perfectly satisfied if Vivek and PDA jumped Sessions in the tunnel and with Vivek flexing his muscles to pin him down while PDA extracted some blood to test the alcohol Meth theories.
Lin would make perfect sense as our backup PG. I would love to trade for himI think Lin's contract is over at the end of this year. So I don't mind spending some Vivek cash for a better backup PG in this case
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I agree totally. I don't know him well enough but if he is showing any signs that his game is deteriorating, I'd be more concerned. My original notes assumed he was deteriorating. I don't know the guy so don't know if this is normal for him. My original thoughts were that he didn't have the skills necessary to be an NBA player.
I'm not going to jump on the "let's crucify Ramon" bandwagon but hope that tonight we see a guy making minimal mistakes.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
AJ Price also just got released today. Been playing well for the Sixers. Thing is...he's been around for about 5 or 6 yeas himself, and he's never been any better than Sessions, in fact mostly worse. So...just not sure we can find the guaranteed stability we would need at that position off the waiver wire. A trade for a Steve Blake character might do it, but you need somebody else who does not need that player.
I'm sure Dallas would cheerfully give us Fat Felton.
I'm sure Dallas would cheerfully give us Fat Felton.
Speaking about Dallas and AJ Price...AJ Price also just got released today. Been playing well for the Sixers. Thing is...he's been around for about 5 or 6 yeas himself, and he's never been any better than Sessions, in fact mostly worse. So...just not sure we can find the guaranteed stability we would need at that position off the waiver wire. A trade for a Steve Blake character might do it, but you need somebody else who does not need that player.
I'm sure Dallas would cheerfully give us Fat Felton.
Gal Mekel? He's israeli and good friend of Casspi and...
Ok. Seriously. Indiana wanted him before Price and Price was signed only because of Mekel's visa problem.
Gal is not much of shooter but he's really good passer: pick-n-rolls, sending ball to bigs, leading fast breaks - he's very good in those things.
One and Done
Bench
So odd to see Sessions playing this poorly - I really liked this signing as well.
He's been a career backup/fringe starter who's great at penetrating and dishing, not much of a defender nor shooter. But now he simply can't play.
My thoughts are that he must have sustained an injury following the preseason, as he doesn't look to be anything similar to the player I've watched over the years yet alone the games going into this season. Very often, players sustain injuries and/or have surgeries that aren't publicized...I think the former is the case here as he's just playing way poorer than his average.
Agree that some rest on the bench + Ray Mac time might be the best solution for the time being.
He's been a career backup/fringe starter who's great at penetrating and dishing, not much of a defender nor shooter. But now he simply can't play.
My thoughts are that he must have sustained an injury following the preseason, as he doesn't look to be anything similar to the player I've watched over the years yet alone the games going into this season. Very often, players sustain injuries and/or have surgeries that aren't publicized...I think the former is the case here as he's just playing way poorer than his average.
Agree that some rest on the bench + Ray Mac time might be the best solution for the time being.
Dreadnought
Bench
Lin is an ender much like how Derrick Williams is. I would much rather pay Lin to be my backup for a year than watch any more Derrick Williams and Ramon Sessions.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
I was a fan of Sessions when he was at Nevada, and after his first year in the NBA, he looked like a player with a great future. Not sure what happened, but this year, he flat out stinks. He was hired to do a job, and his job is to do what the team needs. It's not the teams job to conform to how he likes to play. He's a black hole at times simply driving, or taking shots at very inopportune moments. Like in the Houston game, when we had fought our way back to within a couple of points and Sessions brought the ball down the floor and with 19 seconds left on the shot clock took a quick off balance three, which resulted in a fast break the other way and a basket. It killed the momentum we had going. Setting aside his talent, his physical abilities, or lack thereof, he's making stupid decisions, and its hurting the team, and the second unit in particular. He's making no one better, and that's his job. Mark December 22nd on your calendar. That's the first day he can be traded. Sessions makes McCallum look like an all star.
Sessions is the ultimate rally killer.
He has no touch around the basket, commits the stupidest turnovers and is completely f'ing clueless on defense.
This isn't baseball, Coach. The season isn't long enough to let guys play through slumps like these.
Why he gets playing time over McCallum is insane.
He has no touch around the basket, commits the stupidest turnovers and is completely f'ing clueless on defense.
This isn't baseball, Coach. The season isn't long enough to let guys play through slumps like these.
Why he gets playing time over McCallum is insane.
Why settle for Lin who's going to be payed $8M to be a back-up when you can get the seemingly and suddenly unwanted Lance Stephenson ($9M/year for 3 years) for almost the same price?
IMO, you get Stephenson and suddenly we're a contending playoff team. Defense, offense, ball-handling/assists, rebounding, 3-pt threat, triple-double threat, name it and you got it. Plus, the media loves him with his never-ending on-court drama/antics. Instantly, the Kings becomes relevant at ESPN.
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randymoss1881
Starter
I was gonna bring him up but isn't he a idiot the locker room.
If PDA does do a trade for him I won't be mad though he brings defense/toughness/and can create off the bench. He can also guard 1-3.
PDA already made early inquiries according to my insider. So, prepare to rejoice if this remote possibility happens.
If Stephenson is in fact "suddenly unwanted" after signing his big free agent contract, you can bet that there's a reason. He has a "bit of a checkered past" that goes beyond blowing in LeBron's ear in the Playoffs. For instance:
http://newsone.com/674555/nba-rookie-faces-assualt-charges-for-pushing-girlfriend-down-stairs/
So...we've got allegations of 1) sexual assault on a 17-year old and 2) severe assault and battery of his girlfriend. These are several years old, but still. Dude is a bad apple. I've got zero interest in Stephenson, and I would find it impossible to root for him if he were a King.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Yeah, I was hoping that Stephenson finally had his act together. I remember watching him at Cincinnati where he was three times the headcase that Cousins was at Kentucky. There were a few times when he got upset with the ref, and he just walked off the court while play was still going on. I remember his coach shoving him back onto the court. No one ever doubted his ability, but he's always marched to a different drummer.
It will be a very good experience for coach Malone to deal with a real headcase. I think Malone can work wonders for Stephenson because he seems like a real player-coach.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Stephensen is scary because we are new, our chemistry is new, Cousins' leadership is new. He's wrecked two teams now, not to mention that whole throw the pregnant lady down the stairs bit.
On the other hand, I can and have felt the vet leadership being exerted by Cousins, Reggie, Gay Hollins, Collison...if the coach and ownership are united by the recent wins maybe you could overwhelm his inherent selfishness. He is a talent. He is a selfish ballhandling talent. You put him back there as a 6th man (which his ego would not accept) and he brings defense, and ballhandling, and if Malone could reach him... Squint and you see a huge asset hard to handle for the rest of the league, An answer for Jimmy Butler or James Harden, a final tough guy nut to make us pretty much the toughest crew in the modern NBA. A ballhandler to take over for Sessions off the bench.
But realistically, you look at what has happened in Indiana and Charlotte over the course of the last year, and there is just every chance this is a bad person. A ruined stupid selfish and deluded thug. Maybe our newfound leadership could corral him. Or maybe Cousins is choking him out by the All Star break. Either way, Hibbert and Big Al's numbers have plummeted with him around. He does that with Cousins and I myself am choking him out by the All Star break (or given his size and potential ruined stupid selfish and deluded thugness, maybe I am hiring somebody really large to do it ).
On the other hand, I can and have felt the vet leadership being exerted by Cousins, Reggie, Gay Hollins, Collison...if the coach and ownership are united by the recent wins maybe you could overwhelm his inherent selfishness. He is a talent. He is a selfish ballhandling talent. You put him back there as a 6th man (which his ego would not accept) and he brings defense, and ballhandling, and if Malone could reach him... Squint and you see a huge asset hard to handle for the rest of the league, An answer for Jimmy Butler or James Harden, a final tough guy nut to make us pretty much the toughest crew in the modern NBA. A ballhandler to take over for Sessions off the bench.
But realistically, you look at what has happened in Indiana and Charlotte over the course of the last year, and there is just every chance this is a bad person. A ruined stupid selfish and deluded thug. Maybe our newfound leadership could corral him. Or maybe Cousins is choking him out by the All Star break. Either way, Hibbert and Big Al's numbers have plummeted with him around. He does that with Cousins and I myself am choking him out by the All Star break (or given his size and potential ruined stupid selfish and deluded thugness, maybe I am hiring somebody really large to do it
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Um..this isn't coaching summer school, and I don't think any coach thinks oh lucky me, I've got a real nut!
We're trying to win, and we need to be all for one and one for all totally focused to do that. Is Stephensen EVER totally focused, I mean on anything but himself?
There's no reason to ask for trouble. Let's put it this way - if I'm in charge, and Charlotte calls me and offers Stephenson and THREE unprotected first-round picks for D-Will and Sessions...I have to think about it. Dude Will Ruin Your Team.
HereWeBoogie
Hall of Famer
i saw some absolutely hilarious Ramon Sessions photoshops today. Anyone know where they were coming from?
Sac.Kings
All-Star
Stephenson couldn't handle it in Indiana where they were one of the best teams in the league. No way he comes here and accepts a role off the bench unless we medicate him. The guy is talented, but his focus has to be one of the worst in the league. Larry freaking Bird loved the guy but even he got fed up with him. If problems > talent, then you stay away! Cuz had some minor issues, but this guy is almost at a Ron Artest/World Peace level. No thanks
Are you sure Bird got fed up with him or did they not want to match that contract offer he got?
Sac.Kings
All-Star
A little bit of both. Bird saw the talent, but didn't want to match the contract either. He was also annoyed by some of his antics though.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/201...s-larry-bird-lance-stephenson-antics-do-again
It will probably have to be a deadline trade to give him time to reflect, how nice it is to start for a solid lottery team. Offseason starts early, yay!
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KingMilz
Guest
He fills the stat sheet but unless he's on a stacked team with elite defense none of that results in wins when he's shooting sub 40% and hogging the living crap out of the ball. Lance is Tyreke with serious mental issues, if we didn't want to keep Tyreke why would we want to get Lance?
Kingston Jamaica
Bench
I definitively agree with you. The issue of him not fitting well to the Kings style of playing is one thing. However, there is no excuse for his bad decicion making. He dribbles too much spending precious time from the shot clock. On the other hand, as you said, takes unwarranted 3-pointers, when there is plenty of time on the clock. I have to say this on Collison as well, but both point guards are too trigger happy and do not look for the best open shooter. When DMC is on the floor (and maybe Rudy), he demands their attention and they do pass to him. However, BenMc, who is starting to shoot really well, is forgotten. I think that the point guards should create more for BenMc, because his shooting precentage from 3-point land clearly justifies his shooting. Beyond BenMc shooting well, the Kings simply need that threat to open the lanes. By now the teams already know that nobody (reliable) is shooting the 3-pointers, which makes their defense much simpler.
