Post-Combine, NBA GMs/Execs rank the top 13 PG Prospects

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Before the combine, a number of NBA executives I spoke with said they were struggling to get any real separation in the group after months of scouting. But after watching the players on the court together, getting real measurements and spending 30 minutes interviewing the players one-on-one, a number of NBA GMs said they felt more confident in ranking the top point guard prospects.

I spoke with 15 different GMs and executives and gave them the task of ranking the top 13 point guards in the draft, including a couple of players -- like Tyreke Evans, Stephen Curry and Toney Douglas -- that some GMs see as 2-guards. I then took those 15 responses and averaged them to get a more comprehensive ranking of where each prospect fell.

Here's a look at where they stand after the combine:

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I read this artical just moments before you posted this. It was a pretty good read assuming it's true.

It was interesting seeing Flynn and Holiday up so high and that they were high on the Kings list.
 
Nice write-up, with nothing terribly surprising. I'm beginning to be more and more convinced that we'll go PG at #4 no matter what, so we're probably looking at Rubio, Curry, Flynn or Holiday in purple next year.
 
It seems Curry has improved his value. It was said he would only be a SG, but it seems that he can be a combo guard who could play either position.
 
It seems Curry has improved his value. It was said he would only be a SG, but it seems that he can be a combo guard who could play either position.

Although they don't say that we're looking at him, as it does for Flynn, Holliday and Jennings.
 
Although they don't say that we're looking at him, as it does for Flynn, Holliday and Jennings.
I would love to do this deal:

OKC drafts Rubio, then trades Westbrook and Collison to Sac in exchange for Martin and the #23, then Sac drafts Curry. OKC gets a backcourt of RR, Martin, and Durant at the 3 while Sac gets a future backcourt of Westbrook and Curry to go along with their frontline of JT and Hawes.
 
I would love to do this deal:

OKC drafts Rubio, then trades Westbrook and Collison to Sac in exchange for Martin and the #23, then Sac drafts Curry. OKC gets a backcourt of RR, Martin, and Durant at the 3 while Sac gets a future backcourt of Westbrook and Curry to go along with their frontline of JT and Hawes.


Why a miniature backcourt? :(

That's the same thing that OKC is staring down. Why would we want to basically swap backcourts with them when the Rubio/Martin might be our own with just a little massaging?
 
Ive been praising Curry for weeks on here, and im happy to see he is starting to rise up the draft boards. He CAN play point guard .. he averaged 6 assists this year and he can really shoot it. I think he can be AT LEAST as good as Bibby, his shot is just as good, he is a better athlete, better passer, better at driving and finishing and he HAS to be better at defense...

If Rubio isnt there I would take Curry.
 
Why a miniature backcourt? :(

That's the same thing that OKC is staring down. Why would we want to basically swap backcourts with them when the Rubio/Martin might be our own with just a little massaging?
1. Rubio probably isn't slipping to the Kings, and that means that there is still going to be a hole at the point position. Westbrook is probably better than any other PG prospect.

2. Curry doesn't have to be picked, it was just an idea. There are other SG's out there.

3. A "mini" backcourt isn't really that big of a deal depending on the opposition. Garcia can play some SG too, and the Westbrook/Curry backcourt could cause serious matchup problems with the opposition. Remember the Bibby/Jackson duo on the court? They caused havoc for other teams. It's just a question of what is being given up on the defensive end.
 
1. Rubio probably isn't slipping to the Kings, and that means that there is still going to be a hole at the point position. Westbrook is probably better than any other PG prospect.

2. Curry doesn't have to be picked, it was just an idea. There are other SG's out there.

3. A "mini" backcourt isn't really that big of a deal depending on the opposition. Garcia can play some SG too, and the Westbrook/Curry backcourt could cause serious matchup problems with the opposition. Remember the Bibby/Jackson duo on the court? They caused havoc for other teams. It's just a question of what is being given up on the defensive end.


martin isn't a defensive stopper so whats the problem
 
Well, I don't think any PG ranking means much at this point considering the top 2 PG prospects weren't at the combine and haven't worked out for any teams yet. All these other guys did was take measurements and shoot jumpshots. If that's how you really want to evaluate PGs, then by all means.
 
we really need Curry. IMO his intangibles set him apart from the other prospects. He has won at every level, can flat out shoot, works hard, and would be someone i feel we could count on to take the last shot. I honestly believe there isnt a guy in this draft that could help us more.
 
Rubio1
Curry2
Flynn3
Holiday4
Evans5
Teague6
Jennings7

to be totally honest Im switching my draft board to Rubio, Flynn, Holiday, Curry.

Im going wit Flynn and Holiday over Curry just because of the speed and passing of Flynn/Holiday being better than that of Curry... I feel like we need someone that can penetrate and distribute vs being a lights out shooter... Kmart and friends need someone to set them up
 
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I would love to do this deal:

OKC drafts Rubio, then trades Westbrook and Collison to Sac in exchange for Martin and the #23, then Sac drafts Curry. OKC gets a backcourt of RR, Martin, and Durant at the 3 while Sac gets a future backcourt of Westbrook and Curry to go along with their frontline of JT and Hawes.

Tradition says Rubio-Martin is a better back court than Westbrook-Curry. With the first two, you get a play making PG (with good size) and a lights-out shooter at the 2 guard (also with good size). Rubio is going to run your offense and Martin is going to look for his points. Everyone plays their role offensively. On defense, you at least have a height and length advantage on most other backcourts and both guys are good at playing the passing lanes for steals.

With the second two you get a lights-out shooter who's really only big enough to guard PGs and a defensive stopper with elite athleticism who's a little undersized for the 2 guard spot. What makes Westbrook unique as a PG is that he's a great defender and rebounder, tall and long for that position, and he can attack the basket and finish. Slide him over to the 2 guard and his size becomes a liability and his athleticism less unique. Curry isn't going to be able to guard the other team's 2 guard so you get less options with where to play Westbrook. I don't think that combination of players is very complimentary. Even if you really like Curry's intangibles, it places you in a tough spot with Westbrook who already showed he can play the PG position for a year.

Ideally what you want alongside Westbrook is a guy with proper SG size who can handle the ball a bit and cover some of the PG duties. James Harden, for instance, is a playmaking SG who can shoot reasonably well and does a good job of setting up his teammates. Perfect. That takes pressue off of Westbrook to always be the set-up guy and lets him free-lance as a scorer a little more. When Westbrook has the ball, Harden becomes a shooter. Evans is another option, but he's much more of a slasher than a shooter so his skills are a little redundant.

But that's just tradition. If you're convinced that Curry's intangible outweigh everything else, then you roll the dice with the unconventional lineup. Personally, I don't think it's a smart bet. Either you're betting on Curry to be your PG, and giving up on Westbrook's already promising development there, or you're trying to win with a super-undersized shooting guard where many others have tried and failed.
 
Rubio1
Curry2
Flynn3
Holiday4
Evans5
Teague6
Jennings7

to be totally honest Im switching my draft board to Rubio, Flynn, Holiday, Curry.

Im going wit Flynn and Holiday over Curry just because of the speed and passing of Flynn/Holiday being better than that of Curry... I feel like we need someone that can penetrate and distribute vs being a lights out shooter... Kmart and friends need someone to set them up


Curry and Evans need to be swapped. Evans is a much better PG prospect than Curry.
 
Ive been praising Curry for weeks on here, and im happy to see he is starting to rise up the draft boards. He CAN play point guard .. he averaged 6 assists this year and he can really shoot it. I think he can be AT LEAST as good as Bibby, his shot is just as good, he is a better athlete, better passer, better at driving and finishing and he HAS to be better at defense...

If Rubio isnt there I would take Curry.

Thank you, thought I was the only one. I really don't get why we don't even have him scheduled for workout. PLUS he's a legit 6'3 with a deadly shot. To be honest, I've watched video of Rubio alot..and I don't really get it. He's good playmaker, however he turns the ball over and has NO shot.? I guess it's just me.
 
When I read that ranking I just think that there must be some way to take advantage of this consensus where Curry is ranked so high and Teague (and even Evans ranked so low). If this was the stock market I'd want to do a paired trade and go long Teague and short Curry. Teague is >> Curry in my book. If Teague is still around in the late teens, Petrie has got think about trading up to get him. This could be the classic situation in which everybody gets carried away with the categories - point guard v. two-guard, and just ignores the fact that a guy like Teague can play, regardless of what box you put him in.
 
If we don't get Rubio then I'd be perfectly fine with Holiday. Even after the bad year he had, he's obviously impressed in his workouts. I think he has a huge upside
 
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