Possibility? Hinrich & 17th from Bulls?

Latest rumor is Chicago might send Hinrich and the 17th pick to Wash to clear salary space. If it doesn't go through, Sacramento is mentioned as having the same deal lined up with Chicago.

The Chicago Bulls have a deal in place that would move Kirk Hinrich and the 17th pick to the Washington Wizards, freeing up enough cap space to pursue two maximum-salary players on this summer's free-agent market, sources with knowledge of the Bulls' plans said Thursday.

The deal can't be officially consummated until July 8, when the Wizards will have room under the salary cap to absorb Hinrich's $9 million contract without having to send back anything of similar value.
Since it's a good-faith deal for the time being, there remains a chance it could fall apart. But according to one source, the Sacramento Kings are prepared to make a similar deal with the Bulls in the Wizards' stead if that were to happen.

Just a rumor...
 
Given that we can actually do the deal today, and the Wiz can't until uly 8th, why aren't WE first in line for this? :confused:

This is how you use your capspace when you are a team unlikely to attract the LeBron's of the world. Pick up players and picsk from teams that are, and help them construct a Rose/LeBron/Amare/Noah lineup. :eek:
 
Sounds like they'd be making the pick for whatever team they have the agreement with then. Unless Petrie and Wash have the same player in mind then I doubt Sac would have interest if the deal fell apart after the draft.
 
looks like a 2 yr deal. not bad absorbing a contract and getting another pick. we needed help at the guard spot. this could possibly free up another player to be moved or packaged..
 
I would take this deal in a heartbeat. We were in the market for another PG anyways, and Kirk is perfect next to Evans. He's a good shooter and a surprisingly good defender. I'm on my phone so I can't look up the contract, but I think he has one more year after this one.
 
Hinrich has 4 years at 48 million a year. 12 million a year for a back up folks. To steep of a cost for me. He's 29.

Edit -- Nevermind read the wrong thing. That is Dengs contract. Hinrich has 2 years left on his deal.
 
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jthompson1 said:
i think he actually has 2 years left. I could be wrong tho..
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Yeah, I think it's only two years, next at 9 and the following at 8. You loose some cap flexibilty but could pick up 2 very valuable pieces (a good shooter, passer, defender in hinrich plus another youngster in the draft). It all depends on what else you think you can do with that cap space. Now if you could move Brno or Garcia in a salary move to balance this, that may be promising.
 
Bricklayer said:
Given that we can actually do the deal today, and the Wiz can't until uly 8th, why aren't WE first in line for this? :confused:

This is how you use your capspace when you are a team unlikely to attract the LeBron's of the world. Pick up players and picsk from teams that are, and help them construct a Rose/LeBron/Amare/Noah lineup. :eek:
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I'm hoping we caught wind and told them we can do the deal today, so pick our guy.
 
sdballer said:
Yeah, I think it's only two years, next at 9 and the filling at 8. You loose some cap flexibilty but could pick up 2 very valuable pieces (a good shooter, passer, defender in hinrich plus another youngster in the draft). It all depends on what else you think you can do with that cap space. Now if you could move Brno or Garcia in a salary move to balance this, that may be promising.
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i'd say its a awesome deal because after this season, hes a big expiring which is a big piece for trades.
 
DocHolliday said:
So if the deal falls a part the kings eat up a chunk of their Cap space to get Heinrich, and the 17th pick??? I like getting a 3rd pick, but umm...Hinrich?

From what I can see Hinrich has 4 years and $48 million left on his contract. So we saddle ourselves for the next 4 years at around 12 mill a year for a back up?? He averaged 12 pts 4 reb 4 assists last year. Is that worth $12 mill a year? He's 29, and will be 33 by the end of his contract.
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Where the hell did you pull the $48 million figure from? According to both HoopsHype and Sham Sports, he has about half of that at $26 million with 3 years remaining (including this year). $9.5 million this year and then it declines to $8 million by the final year.

Either way, I'm a little iffy on this deal. Hinrich's a solid player, but I'm not very comfortable with him as the starter at the 2 (which he would have to be, since we'd already have a backup point in Beno). I know he has done so alongside Rose in the past and that he can defend some players at the 2, but I think he ultimately ends up being a liability at that spot against elite players.

The question is if you think there's a good enough player lurking at 17 to justify it.
 
Dr. Spaceman said:
Where the hell did you pull the $48 million figure from? According to both HoopsHype and Sham Sports, he has about half of that at $26 million with 3 years remaining (including this year). $9.5 million this year and then it declines to $8 million by the final year.

Either way, I'm a little iffy on this deal. Hinrich's a solid player, but I'm not very comfortable with him as the starter at the 2 (which he would have to be, since we'd already have a backup point in Beno). I know he has done so alongside Rose in the past and that he can defend some players at the 2, but I think he ultimately ends up being a liability at that spot against elite players.

The question is if you think there's a good enough player lurking at 17 to justify it.
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Simmer....read the wrong part of an article where they stuck Dengs numbers out there while talking about Hinrich, then said Hinrich has 2 years left.
 
Dr. Spaceman said:
Where the hell did you pull the $48 million figure from? According to both HoopsHype and Sham Sports, he has about half of that at $26 million with 3 years remaining (including this year). $9.5 million this year and then it declines to $8 million by the final year.

Either way, I'm a little iffy on this deal. Hinrich's a solid player, but I'm not very comfortable with him as the starter at the 2 (which he would have to be, since we'd already have a backup point in Beno). I know he has done so alongside Rose in the past and that he can defend some players at the 2, but I think he ultimately ends up being a liability at that spot against elite players.

The question is if you think there's a good enough player lurking at 17 to justify it.
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With Evans' ability to defend the 2 he wouldn't have to guard the 2s.
 
Dr. Spaceman said:
Where the hell did you pull the $48 million figure from? According to both HoopsHype and Sham Sports, he has about half of that at $26 million with 3 years remaining (including this year). $9.5 million this year and then it declines to $8 million by the final year.

Either way, I'm a little iffy on this deal. Hinrich's a solid player, but I'm not very comfortable with him as the starter at the 2 (which he would have to be, since we'd already have a backup point in Beno). I know he has done so alongside Rose in the past and that he can defend some players at the 2, but I think he ultimately ends up being a liability at that spot against elite players.

The question is if you think there's a good enough player lurking at 17 to justify it.
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we'd be stacking up assets. isn't indiana supposedly looking for a PG? we could somehow include them in it to take their 10th pick for captain kirk, we'd end up w/ the 5th, 10th & 17th pick in this years draft! boo yah baby. we could end up w/ 3 1st rd and 1 2nd rd pick this year. that would be insane.
 
Brick - I think the goal is Rose, LBJ, Deng, Bosh, and Noah ... but they would live with Amare.

The Bulls and the Heat have gone to war, I wouldn't rule out a Beasly dump today either.
 
Chicago vs Miami in the FA bidding.

World Wide Wes has incredible power due to his connections with FAs. And what he tells Lebron could indirectly help get us the 17th pick.
 
Larry David said:
Brick - I think the goal is Rose, LBJ, Deng, Bosh, and Noah ... but they would live with Amare.

The Bulls and the Heat have gone to war, I wouldn't rule out a Beasly dump today either.
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What's funny is that both of those teams have completely screwed over the Knicks who gutted their team and draft pick future to have cap space for two max guys. Well the Heat will have room for three max guys, and the Bulls will have room for two +Rose and Noah.

Even the Nets are candidates to get in the mix if they can deal off Harris...then they'd have room for two max guys with a lotto pick and Lopez.

Other than the draw of MSG there's no rational reason why any of the top guys would go there.
 
DocHolliday said:
Hinrich has 4 years at 48 million a year. 12 million a year for a back up folks. To steep of a cost for me. He's 29.

Edit -- Nevermind read the wrong thing. That is Dengs contract. Hinrich has 2 years left on his deal.
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Yeah, Hinrich is only 2 years left at $17 mil.


And remember Tyreke's comment in his interview yesterday about needing a veteran leader to help keep everybody focused? Makes you wonder if there wasn't something to those Prince rumors as well (although I would nto call him a leadr). Tough veteran defnsive minded player. I had been wracking my brain since Tyreke's comment trying to think of who might be available, but this would do the trick, and seem to largely complete the backcourt picture and our idea of what to put beside Reke -- big combo PGs (Hinrich, Beno) and swingmen wiht passing ability (Cisco).
 
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