Porter fired by Bucks...

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The Milwaukee Bucks, having already scored the No. 1 pick in next week's draft, decided Wednesday to thrust themselves into the NBA coaching sweepstakes by firing Terry Porter.

The Bucks, according to NBA front-office sources, made the unexpected move in hopes of attracting Flip Saunders or Nate McMillan -- or a similarly experienced coach -- to Milwaukee.

Another motivation, sources said, was giving Porter the chance to make a run at the Portland job. The Trail Blazers, who drafted Porter out of Wisconsin-Stevens Point in 1985, still have an opening. Porter was entering the final season of a three-year contract with the Bucks but with no extension offer on the table.

Although they're not alone in chasing Saunders and McMillan -- Detroit has interest in both should Larry Brown leave the Pistons' bench as expected -- Milwaukee's situation could tempt a veteran.

Besides the No. 1 pick it surprisingly won in last month's lottery, setting up a choice between Utah's Andrew Bogut and North Carolina's Marvin Williams, Milwaukee is expected to re-sign shooting guard Michael Redd this summer and still have considerable leftover salary-cap room for roster upgrades. The Bucks are also cautiously optimistic that point guard T.J. Ford will be back next season after sitting out the 2004-05 season with a back injury.

Bucks general manager Larry Harris announced May 6 that Porter would be retained for the final season of his contract without an extension. Porter assistant coaches Mike Schuler and Jerome Kersey were dismissed.

In the six weeks since, sources said, the Bucks grew increasingly apprehensive about bringing Porter back as a lame-duck coach, fearing a repeat of what the Denver Nuggets endured at the start of last season with Jeff Bzdelik.

Bzdelik began the season without an extension and facing high expectations after Denver paired Kenyon Martin with Carmelo Anthony, but the Nuggets lurched to a 13-15 start amid constant speculation about Bzdelik's imminent firing.

The Bucks were one of the league's surprise teams in Porter's first season, going 41-41 in 2003-04 to earn a playoff berth, with Redd making his first All-Star team. But the Bucks sank to 30-52 under the Milwaukee native last season, generating considerable speculation that Porter would be fired immediately.

McMillan is expected to re-sign with Seattle after leading the Sonics to a 50-win season, but Portland -- and the Pistons -- hope to speak with McMillan after his current Sonics contract expires June 30.

Saunders, still owed $5.5 million next season by Minnesota, is widely considered a top candidate to replace Brown in Detroit. Saunders has already rebuffed overtures from Portland and his hometown Cleveland Cavaliers.

Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com. To e-mail him, click here. Also, click here to send a question for possible use on ESPNEWS.


Wouldn't mind having Terry back on the bench.....he was an Assistant that one year where we actually played decent defense.
 
I guess Porter and Redd weren't the best of buddies. There is NO way that the Bucks let TP go if there is any chance it would upset their big free agent. I thought Porter was doing a pretty good job in Milwaukee, all things considered.

Interesting.

Apropos of nothing, am I the only one who thinks Porter looks a bit like Sloth from the Goonies? Just a little bit?

Here's a picture comparing Sloth and Popeye Jones.
birth_popeye.jpg

But I think TP is a closer match.
TerryPorter_Buck.jpg
 
funkykingston said:
Apropos of nothing, am I the only one who thinks Porter looks a bit like Sloth from the Goonies? Just a little bit?

Er... ;)


Do wonder what this means for that #1 overall pick though. As an Adelman disciple, Porter was running an offense with a lot of similarities to ours. And in such an offense, Andrew Bogut would be very valuable. But if they are going with a new coach, a new system, wonder what their plans are? Marvin Williams? Trade it? (and yes, I still have an eye on trying to steal that pick from them since Bogut looks like potentially an ideal fit for us. :) )
 
Bricklayer said:
(and yes, I still have an eye on trying to steal that pick from them since Bogut looks like potentially an ideal fit for us. :) )

I've had the same thought ... (I'll reveal mine after you)

hypothetically - just what do you think would be "an offer Milwaukee couldn't refuse" from Sacramento ???
 
Folsom Al said:
I've had the same thought ... (I'll reveal mine after you)

hypothetically - just what do you think would be "an offer Milwaukee couldn't refuse" from Sacramento ???

Ostertag for their pick. Straight up.





Seriously, think about it.
 
Folsom Al said:
I've had the same thought ... (I'll reveal mine after you)

hypothetically - just what do you think would be "an offer Milwaukee couldn't refuse" from Sacramento ???

Oh, I was fooling around with a variety of scenarios on RealGm last week. Problem is trying to balance things without even knowing how much they themselves value the pick.

So, a few thoughts on the topic:

1) the Bucks have actually done a VERY nice job freeing up their salary cap. They've got a ton of room this year, and then all of their remaining contracts are up within 2 years after that. What that means is that a) maybe helping them even further with their cap space would be attractive to them; and b) it seems unlikely they would be willing to accept back long term contracts (ala Thomas) in return to clutter up their cap.

2) What they really need is a PG, becaue they seem to be indicating that T.J. Ford may never recover for them.

3) I'm sure they'd love to have Bibby, but the idea of trading Mike for a kid who may or may not pan out is frightening -- if you are wrong, man you have set yourself back. If Milwaulkee is serious about resigning Redd, don't know that they'd want to get Peja and go for an all outside/softie OG/SF duo. And I am also nervous about the idea of trading Brad -- the 15 and 9 man you know, for a young kid who may never be as good. Although in that case the additional toughness, shotblocking, post game and youth might be enough. Maybe. In any case, for them to do that, you would have to count on Milwaulkee wanting to attract FAs like Redd by picking up current talent able to help them win now rather than kids who might develop in the future.

So take all that and I came to the realization that a) we couldn't really trade Milwaulkee long term contracts not attached to stars; b) I wouldn't want to trade one of our core guys straight up for the pick without additional pieces being moved. So what does that leave? Basically I restricted myself into a corner. :)

Best I could come up with was a junkballing ending contract + young talent combo, with a possible major player switch thrown in. To whit:

Milwaulkee trades:
#1 pick
Calvin Booth (their worst remaining contract)

Kings trade:
Bobby Jackson (their PG, + ending contract)
Greg Ostertag (ending contract)
Kevin Martin (young talent)
#23

See? Garbage. Attractive only if they are unsure of #1 and really serious about their cap room.

But then you could add this and it would still work:

Milwaulkee trades: Desmond Mason (who they jsut aren't thrilled with)
Kings trade: (Peja Stojakovic)

And then maybe, maybe, if they think Peja is that much better than desmond it give the deal some extra oomph.

So that's all I couold come up with:

Peja
Bobby
Tag
Kevin
#23

for

#1
Mason
Booth

Big, sloppy, probably only possible in fantasyland.
 
You and I aren't so far apart ....

Mine was by process of elimination .... simple (assuming the players we have now):

1 - Don't wanna trade Brad or Mike ... that left Peja (won't break my heart even though I'm a Peja FAN !!!)

2 - Have to include a #6, #7 or #8 player off the bench ... that meant either Bobby, Mo or Darius

3 - Then G-Tag -OR- Kevin

4 - The #23 pick in the draft

All I want in return is the #1 pick and Mason (funny how we both like this guy).

They are interested in a PG and Peja for Mason (that's a win/win)

Interesting you include Booth ... I'll have to read-up on him

So, there ... we have some pretty close scenarios.
 
Folsom Al said:
You and I aren't so far apart ....

Mine was by process of elimination .... simple (assuming the players we have now):

1 - Don't wanna trade Brad or Mike ... that left Peja (won't break my heart even though I'm a Peja FAN !!!)

2 - Have to include a #6, #7 or #8 player off the bench ... that meant either Bobby, Mo or Darius

3 - Then G-Tag -OR- Kevin

4 - The #23 pick in the draft

All I want in return is the #1 pick and Mason (funny how we both like this guy).

They are interested in a PG and Peja for Mason (that's a win/win)

Interesting you include Booth ... I'll have to read-up on him

So, there ... we have some pretty close scenarios.

Oh, I included Booth to sweeten the deal for Milwaulkee. Figured if we took a bad contract for them they might be encouraged to bite.
 
Bricklayer said:
Oh, I included Booth to sweeten the deal for Milwaulkee. Figured if we took a bad contract for them they might be encouraged to bite.

YEAH !!! Nice ...... and SMART (if it'll work)

..... think the Buck's Owners/GM will FALL FOR IT !!!!

Booth has a 13.1 mil contract over the next 2-years (King's would absorb 6mil)

The King's are offing G-Tag & B-Jax (comb 7.7mil)
Kevin is 6.3mil over the next 4-years
Peja is 15.8 vs 15.2 for Mason

Looking at it that way ... we're actually trading a #23 for a #1 and a 6mil debt.

$$$$ wise, your way is more attractive to Milwakee

My way may or may not "open the Buck's eyes".
 
Folsom Al said:
YEAH !!! Nice ...... and SMART (if it'll work)

..... think the Buck's Owners/GM will FALL FOR IT !!!!

Booth has a 13.1 mil contract over the next 2-years (King's would absorb 6mil)

The King's are offing G-Tag & B-Jax (comb 7.7mil)
Kevin is 6.3mil over the next 4-years
Peja is 15.8 vs 15.2 for Mason

Looking at it that way ... we're actually trading a #23 for a #1 and a 6mil debt.

$$$$ wise, your way is more attractive to Milwakee

My way may or may not "open the Buck's eyes".

Al and Brick, you two have now posted the ABSOLUTE BEST POSSIBLE TRADE imho. I'd like to thank you for this post. I will now be able to sleep with the thought of hope to come.
 
Interesting. The first response (I'm not counting the one that compares Porter to Sloth) to the article is to start discussing trades. Poor Terry Porter. Maybe that's why they dumped him. Poor guy can't even get one decent message board comment when he's fired.

;)
 
VF21 said:
Interesting. The first response (I'm not counting the one that compares Porter to Sloth) to the article is to start discussing trades. Poor Terry Porter. Maybe that's why they dumped him. Poor guy can't even get one decent message board comment when he's fired.

;)

Umm... we should fire Adelman and hire Porter??? ;) Does that make you feel any better?
 
I'm guessing Terry would like to continue his Head Coaching career .... he should throw his hat into the ring over in Portland
 
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