Pollard Recommends drugs for children

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Cavs' Pollard apologizes for comment
Associated Press
Posted: 2 hours ago

CLEVELAND (AP) - Cleveland Cavaliers center Scot Pollard looked into the camera during a recent game and said, "Hey kids, do drugs."

Pollard was sitting on the bench in street clothes when he made the remark during a 20-second timeout Sunday against Indiana. The Cavaliers didn't find it funny.

"We have spoken with Scot and certainly do not condone his actions," general manager Danny Ferry said in a statement Wednesday. "He regrets his mistake, using inappropriate humor, particularly when he has always been very involved in the community, projecting positive messages to our youth. We will handle the issue internally."

"It was a bad joke," Pollard said in Thursday editions of The Plain Dealer. "That's all it boils down to. There are a number of things people could say about it, but it just turned out it was a bad joke. Obviously, I don't believe that."

Pollard, who has played in only 17 games this season, was not available on Thursday. He would be at practice on Friday, the team said.
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It's tough having a sense of humor in a world without a sense of irony.
 
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It might have been meant as some kind of joke, but it was primarily incredibly stupid.

The point is that we all know way too many situations where athletes have been in trouble for using drugs. Scot clearly wasn't thinking.
 
Vlade4GM said:
yea, someone needs to teach those people the meaning of irony.
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Some people care what is said to their kids. Kids watch the NBA. KIDS don't always understand irony.

He shouldn't have said it. As the Cavs GM said, it was "inappropriate humor."

I find it interesting that people are even upset that he apologized. No one is calling for his head or a fine, suspension, etc.

This isn't the first time Scot has let his mouth work without getting the brain involved. Remember the tantrum he threw at the scorer's table with Grant and Jerry because he thought Jon Barry was being dissed by the crowd at Arco? He said some pretty nasty things...

I love Scot Pollard. That doesn't excuse him from showing a little more restraint in some situations. What might have been funny as a SNL skit was just wrong during an NBA broadcast. It's all about location and timing.
 
VF21 said:
Some people care what is said to their kids. Kids watch the NBA. KIDS don't always understand irony.

He shouldn't have said it. As the Cavs GM said, it was "inappropriate humor."

I find it interesting that people are even upset that he apologized. No one is calling for his head or a fine, suspension, etc.

This isn't the first time Scot has let his mouth work without getting the brain involved. Remember the tantrum he threw at the scorer's table with Grant and Jerry because he thought Jon Barry was being dissed by the crowd at Arco? He said some pretty nasty things...

I love Scot Pollard. That doesn't excuse him from showing a little more restraint in some situations. What might have been funny as a SNL skit was just wrong during an NBA broadcast. It's all about location and timing.
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I have to agree.

I'm glad he apologized, but it never should have happened in the first place.
 
Kids that don't understand sarcasm aren't old enough to know what drugs are. And if they are old enough and don't understand what sarcasm is then they're probably doing drugs anyways. Just my 2 cent... ;)
 
My kid will be ten in a month; he's pretty smart (a nearly straight-a student), and I know that he knows what drugs are, because I've talked to him about them.

Sarcasm is lost on him. Why? Because he's only going to be ten in a month. He still thinks that Drake and Josh and the Naked Brothers are high-quality humor.
 
meh. you can barely hear him plus you can tell he's jk with that goofy smile at the end. Scot being Scot. I hope he doesnt show restraint, just keep being yourself Scot. booyah
 
I love Pollard, but it was a dumb thing to say. Adults in the presence of children should exercise some self-restraint and/or self-censorship. If adults can't do that much, why do we hold kids to a higher standard?
 
VF21 said:
Some people care what is said to their kids. Kids watch the NBA. KIDS don't always understand irony.

He shouldn't have said it. As the Cavs GM said, it was "inappropriate humor."

I find it interesting that people are even upset that he apologized. No one is calling for his head or a fine, suspension, etc.

This isn't the first time Scot has let his mouth work without getting the brain involved. Remember the tantrum he threw at the scorer's table with Grant and Jerry because he thought Jon Barry was being dissed by the crowd at Arco? He said some pretty nasty things...

I love Scot Pollard. That doesn't excuse him from showing a little more restraint in some situations. What might have been funny as a SNL skit was just wrong during an NBA broadcast. It's all about location and timing.
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I don't necesarily disagree with any of this, but let's keep this in mind next time we complain that athletes are dull cliche-spouting machines that hide their true personality when they're in front of a camera.
 
PixelPusher said:
I don't necesarily disagree with any of this, but let's keep this in mind next time we complain that athletes are dull cliche-spouting machines that hide their true personality when they're in front of a camera.
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Let's keep in mind the number of OTHER things he could have said that might have been funnier and not gotten him into trouble...

I'd like to ask Mrs. Pollard if she thought it was funny or appropriate. I'd be willing to bet the answer wouldn't be "Oh, he was just being funny."

It's not an earth-crushing matter to me, but - as kennadog has pointed out above - I think adults should be able to remember when they're in a family-rated atmosphere as opposed to late-night talk show or SNL situation.
 
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You could see worse on Leno.

Total number of kids who ran out to do drugs ebcause of Scot's failed joke? Zero.

Nothing to see here other than a lot of tittering.
 
It was a DUMB thing to say. It wasn't on late-night Leno; it was during an NBA game. It's not a major deal but he certainly could have used better judgment. That's the point; I don't think it's tittering for parents to be at least a little concerned about what a professional athlete says into the camera during a game. Just because it didn't lead to an outbreak of immediate and addictive drug use by 10-year-olds doesn't excuse the poor judgment on Pollard's part. I think that's what people - especially those of us who are parents or grand-parents - are trying to get across.
 
Bricklayer said:
Nothing to see here other than a lot of tittering.
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Well, my infantile bias is well known and much lamented, so I'm quite at home with "tittering," as it were.

And, as much as I respect your opinion in general, I hope that you'll understand if I don't take my cues on what I, as a parent, should and should not take offense to regarding comments that my kid might hear by someone who does not have kids of his own.
 
I think the general point would be:

a) It WAS a dumb thing to say -- and Pollard has already admitted as much.

but

b) It was also completely irrelvant, meant to be irreverent, and nothing more than a failed joke that has been run with far too long by hand wringing adults. The kids, I would be willing to bet, have long since moved on, even if they took notice in the first place, which given who Scot Pollard isn't, is rather unlikely.

If as a parent or whatnot you think the patently ridiculous statement "do drugs" uttered as a throwaway line by a clown prince scrub in the NBA is even remotely in the picture as far as negative influences on your child, you are probably going to have a rather frightening revelation sooner or later. Unless you have her/him locked in a box, every inch of TV, movies, music, news, pop culture and of course the internet is just crawling with stuff that makes that look like nothing. And even if you have somehow magically got your kid hermetically sealed, his/her friends haven't been, and he will find out about it that way -- sometimes even more dangerous since its the blind leading the blind with peer pressure.

Your 10 year old is growing up in a world where information flows more freely than it ever has, where the man set to become the all time home run king is in the midst of a massive steroid scandal, where terrorists crash planes full of people into skyscrapers full of people, where ex NBA players unleash vitriolic anti-gay rants, where the mysterious death of Playboy Playmates dominate the news, where Britney flashes her crotch, where the ex-President 'did not inhale", where suicide bombers are blowing body parts all over the street on a daily basis, where most computer games involve killing people, and an immensely popular series centers around actually becoming a crime lord by blowing away cops, assasinating people, stealing, and pimping out prostitutes, and where every kid old enough to type has to do no more than type "naked girls" (no need for quotes) into google and learn all the wonders of nature he could want (or "naked boys" might do it the other way).

Meanwhile a generally harmless and genial jokester makes an irreverent comment and we spend 20 posts tittering about it. It was nothing more than a very minor mistake. Hardly worth commenting on, and certainly not worth getting worked up over beyond tsk tsk. A minor faux pas by a well meaning adult is not even a drop in the proverbial bucket of the challenges parents face today.
 
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Bricklayer said:
Um...ok. So Scot has been damaging the development of children for many years now. Your point? :p
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No point... just The More You Know :)

I love Scot. I can't take anything he says seriously. It was a stupid thing to say and I'm glad he apologized.

At least he didn't say he was going to bring Uzis like KG did :)
 
Bricklayer said:
I think the general point would be:

a) It WAS a dumb thing to say -- and Pollard has already admitted as much.

but

b) It was also completely irrelvant, meant to be irreverent, and nothing more than a failed joke that has been run with far too long by hand wringing adults. The kids, I would be willing to bet, have long since moved on, even if they took notice in the first place, which given who Scot Pollard isn't, is rather unlikely.

If as a parent or whatnot you think the patently ridiculous statement "do drugs" uttered as a throwaway line by a clown prince scrub in the NBA is even remotely in the picture as far as negative influences on your child, you are probably going to have a rather frightening revelation sooner or later. Unless you have her/him locked in a box, every inch of TV, movies, music, news, pop culture and of course the internet is just crawling with stuff that makes that look like nothing. And even if you have somehow magically got your kid hermetically sealed, his/her friends haven't been, and he will find out about it that way -- sometimes even more dangerous since its the blind leading the blind with peer pressure.

Your 10 year old is growing up in a world where information flows more freely than it ever has, where the man set to become the all time home run king is in the midst of a massive steroid scandal, where terrorists crash planes full of people into skyscrapers full of people, where ex NBA players unleash vitriolic anti-gay rants, where the mysterious death of Playboy Playmates dominate the news, where Britney flashes her crotch, where the ex-President 'did not inhale", where suicide bombers are blowing body parts all over the street on a daily basis, where most computer games involve killing people, and an immensely popular series centers around actually becoming a crime lord by blowing away cops, assasinating people, stealing, and pimping out prostitutes, and where every kid old enough to type has to do no more than type "naked girls" (no need for quotes) into google and learn all the wonders of nature he could want (or "naked boys" might do it the other way).

Meanwhile a generally harmless and genial jokester makes an irreverent comment and we spend 20 posts tittering about it. It was nothing more than a very minor mistake. Hardly worth commenting on, and certainly not worth getting worked up over beyond tsk tsk. A minor faux pas by a well meaning adult is not even a drop in the proverbial bucket of the challenges parents face today.
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Are you a parent, Brick? It's not this incident as it stands alone but as it relates to a common opinion that bothers some people. And they - as parents - have a right to be concerned about the extremely casual way drugs are referenced in everyday situations.

It's not a matter of comparing this situation to others. It's a matter of objecting when someone does something incredibly dumb, which we've done. I think the "hand-wringing" comment is more than a little offensive to people who are battling every day to try and keep their kids from getting involved in things like drugs, alcohol, etc. Public figures send powerful messages.

You may call Scot the clown prince of basketball but he still made a comment I doubt if his own wife would be real pleased about. Why? IT'S A DUMB THING for an adult to say to kids. The point isn't whether or not the kids will actually flock to their local drug dealer. The point is that a parent's job is tough enough with things they cannot control. Scot, as a parent himself, should have known better.

And, again you use the word "tittering" ... Most of the posts that are keeping this thread alive are people disagreeing with your assessment in the first place.

;)
 
well...since i'm one of the resident "kids," in comparison to the average age around here, let me give you my perspective. as someone who grew up as a child in the "information age," i can tell you straight up that scot pollard's comment is utterly irelevant. nobody really cares. we just want to point the finger at someone who isn't ourselves. there's just far too much sh** goin' on just in this country to raise a stink over someone like scot effing pollard. now, this isn't to say that you all should stop being concerned parents, but it is to say that brick is right in the sense that parents should focus on those things that are far more able to damage their children. scot pollard is of so little consequence in the grand scheme of the destruction of childhood in america. scot pollard's comment may have been inappropriate, and there's nothing wrong with objecting to it, but there's no point in taking it any farther than "well, that was a stupid thing to say. don't do it again." do you all really want to know how successful the "war on drugs" has been here in america? well...here's a hint: it's been about as successful as our current "war on terror."

the world SUCKS! this is a fact. parents, you want to do your children a favor? start speaking out against the atrocities that really do plague our everyday lives. scot pollard makes a stupid joke in front of a camera, and people get their panties in a bunch about it on the boards. yet, former nba players claim their hatred for homosexuals...using the word "hate," with all intentionality, and nobody has anything to say about. we need to start speaking out against hatred. as a country of parents in the free world, america needs to start being the change it claims to be in the world before it can become the change it wishes to see in the world. we are far too consumed with the inconsequential in this country. we lack a sense of the bigger picture, because we get so damn "busy." that's america in a nutshell: "busy." parents...just be open and honest with your children. my parents were open and honest with me about everything, and it gave me a clear, stable worldview, instead of a sheltered, muddled one in which there was all this "new" and "exciting" stuff to check out. by the time i got to college, alcohol, drugs, sex, etc...that stuff wasn't a big deal. i didn't care. my mind is in other places, because my parents treated me with the respect an adolescent needs. that respect comes in the form of honesty about the nature of the world we live in.

parents...your children are going to make A LOT of mistakes. god knows i made my share of them. and as someone who still made mistakes in spite of his parent's ABSOLUTE BEST efforts, and with the immediacy of time in which to remember the fine details of each and every mistake i've made, i'll just tell you, with all honesty, that there's nothing you can do to stop this nasty little place we call "the world" from invading, perverting, and destroying your children's minds. but it is what we do with those mistakes we make that matters the most, not the mistakes themselves. it is how we grow and learn from our mistakes that makes us the people we are. scot pollard's not even a drop of water in the bucket of our issues. he's like the condensation dripping off the outside of the bucket, landing on the concrete, and evaporating.
 
Bricklayer said:
If as a parent or whatnot you think the patently ridiculous statement "do drugs" uttered as a throwaway line by a clown prince scrub in the NBA is even remotely in the picture as far as negative influences on your child, you are probably going to have a rather frightening revelation sooner or later.
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Hardly. Like I said, I've already talked to my son about drugs. In fact, I talk to him about them all the time, specifically because I know that he's going to hear about it elsewhere. I know that he's going to hear it on tv, on the playground, and GOK where else. I talk to him about it just about every weekend when I pick him up, because I want to keep tabs on whether or not the kids he hangs around talk to him about that ****, and because I want to keep tabs on how he feels about it, and whether he thinks about it.

Bricklayer said:
Unless you have her/him locked in a box, every inch of TV, movies, music, news, pop culture and of course the internet is just crawling with stuff that makes that look like nothing. And even if you have somehow magically got your kid hermetically sealed, his/her friends haven't been, and he will find out about it that way -- sometimes even more dangerous since its the blind leading the blind with peer pressure.
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The point wasn't that I read his comments and thought, "Oh noes! Scot Pollard said kids should do drugs! My son's going to hear that and think it's okay to do drugs!" I talk to my son every week when he comes over about the stuff that he's done that week, and what he watched on tv, or whatever; I talk to him about what they say on television and on radio and in video games (not that he even plays those kinds of games) about drugs and sex (yes sex; as he's started to notice girls here lately), among other things, and why he shouldn't take all that stuff seriously.

The point in all this is that I don't need "help" in finding ways in which to talk to my son about mature topics from some journeyman putz who doesn't have enough sense to realize when his shtick isn't ****ing funny. And it's not just about Pollard, or even athletes; I have the same reaction whenever anyone in the spotlight says something like this. It's stupid, and it creates more work for me as a parent, and I don't ****ing appreciate it.

Bricklayer said:
Your 10 year old is growing up in a world where information flows more freely than it ever has, where the man set to become the all time home run king is in the midst of a massive steroid scandal, where terrorists crash planes full of people into skyscrapers full of people, where ex NBA players unleash vitriolic anti-gay rants, where the mysterious death of Playboy Playmates dominate the news, where Britney flashes her crotch, where the ex-President 'did not inhale", where suicide bombers are blowing body parts all over the street on a daily basis, where most computer games involve killing people, and an immensely popular series centers around actually becoming a crime lord by blowing away cops, assasinating people, stealing, and pimping out prostitutes, and where every kid old enough to type has to do no more than type "naked girls" (no need for quotes) into google and learn all the wonders of nature he could want (or "naked boys" might do it the other way).
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Since I feel that I touched on the other things you mentioned already, I'll just speak to the last: I don't know what kind of access to computers most kids have, but my son only has access to the internet at school, at his mother's house, and at my house, all three of which have pretty thorough content filters. But, either way, as I've stated that I've also begun talking to my son about sex, and the fact that I actually monitor my son's internet activity, I'm not aggressively concerned about it.

You make these comments as if you think that all parents just let video games and the idiot box babysit their kids for them, like we don't stay abreast of what they're doing when they're not in our direct line of sight, who they hang out with, and what they talk about... Perhaps some do, but I sure as hell don't.

I consider myself to be a suitably active and engaged parent in my child's personal life. With everything that's available in the media, keeping your kid well-informed about mature subjects that they will have to make their own decisions on is a full-time job... And I don't need jackoffs like Scot Pollard giving me more work to do.
 
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I have said some really stupid things before........most of you already know that.


Note: I have never been dressed in drag though.
 
I felt I had to share this. Pollard was her favorite.

direct qoute from my 11 yr old daughter:

"He shouldn't be saying things like that even if he is joking. It's irresponsible. Some kids might be looking up to him and not think it's a joke. I no longer like him."


Even my 11yr old knows it was irresponsible.
 
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