calcrip420
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The KIngs should of kept Mo Evans, Hedo, Mobley, Songila and Gerald Wallace...who do you all think we should of kept or let go?
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SacKings384
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Don't agree with Songaila or Mobley.... Songaila was too soft and was just like every other big we had, Mobley didn't really fit in too well. He was a one on one player, and only worked out in LA because he knows Brand is there. But in Sacto he was one of our few offensive weapons, and often took that job too far.
Don't mean to bash the topic, but I think it's time to move forward, sure I lament some of the moves from time-to-time, but really we should just move forward with the new season.
I mean, given the chance what stocks should you have invested in five years ago? It's fun to fantasize, but in the end, it just makes you less appreciative of what you've got now.
I mean, given the chance what stocks should you have invested in five years ago? It's fun to fantasize, but in the end, it just makes you less appreciative of what you've got now.
John Galt
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I honestly don't think of any of those guys as "ones that got away". I wouldn't give any of them significant minutes on today's team.
But if we had kept Jim Jackson instead of letting him go when we did, it might have made a difference in one more title run.
If we had kept Doug Christie instead of letting him go when we did, he might not have gone mental and instead helped us out even to this day as an veteran presence, perhaps even an assistant coach. I think his playing days were winding down but I can't think of a guy I'd rather have around... except....
If we had kept Vlade Divac instead of letting him go when we did... well at the very least we wouldn't have the blemish of letting Greg Ostertag wear the Kings purple.. that slob was the worst blight for the Kings since OP.
Chris Webber.
SacTownKid
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Mo Evans? You've got to be kidding. In case you didn't notice he would be 4th in line at the moment. And if you remember correctly the reason we couldn't re-sign Mo was because we spent the full MLE on Reef.
Bricklayer
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Gerald Wallace and Ron Artest paired wouldn't be able to shoot a lick, but would complete destroy teams defensively in Pippen/Jordan fashion.
Gerald is the clear loss there.
Losing Cat for nothing was also a big blow, but I think he had to go. Just not for free. The score now is Webb, Vlade, Bobby, Doug for --> Kenny, Corliss and Pot. That is a slight talent bleed. Thank goodness Artest went nutso in Indiana, because Peja would probably have walked for nothing too if we'd kept him.
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Mo Evans - why?
Hedo - latest word is he's still suffering from some mysterious ailment. He was playing behind Peja. The best thing the Kings could have done for him is let him move on, which we did when we acquired Brad.
Mobley - just not a good fit for the Kings and I was one of the people who liked him.
Songaila - why?
Gerald Wallace - one of those players people will always wish we had kept. He just wasn't going to flourish here, however, and going to the Bobcats allowed him to grow and mature.
I think we should have kept Lawrence Funderburke. I still feel badly about how things ended with him.
Hedo - latest word is he's still suffering from some mysterious ailment. He was playing behind Peja. The best thing the Kings could have done for him is let him move on, which we did when we acquired Brad.
Mobley - just not a good fit for the Kings and I was one of the people who liked him.
Songaila - why?
Gerald Wallace - one of those players people will always wish we had kept. He just wasn't going to flourish here, however, and going to the Bobcats allowed him to grow and mature.
I think we should have kept Lawrence Funderburke. I still feel badly about how things ended with him.
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AriesMar27
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hedo had to go... as previously stated... its too bad we couldnt have traded mobley for bonzi instead of trading bobby and ostertag... divac and webber are super obvious losses... peja really isnt... the minute we lost doug peja became useless for some reason.... he just couldnt hit his shots or something...
nbrans
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Considering Vlade and Doug are out of the league, Bobby is diminished and Webber can't defend a lick, and if you consider Shareef probably wouldn't be here if Webber were here it's really not that big of a bleed.
I'd like to have pre-injury Webber on the Kings, Gerald Wallace with all of the experience he gained in Charlotte that he would have never gotten with the Kings, and I'd like Denver to have pulled the Mobley for Nene sign and trade. But since none of this is happening, I'm reasonably happy with the moves that have been made in the last five years and am excited about the coming year.
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No, with our luck Peja would have pulled out a season just good enough to restore faith in him and we would have been stuck with the obscene contract.
atxrocker
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sounds about right.
Widowmaker2k
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JJ and Gerald strike me as the biggest losses, apart from Mr. Webber of course. Webber, even in his broken downs state, is still better than what we have at the 4/5, but alas, that ship sailed a long time ago. 
Quincy8Douby
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Definitely gerald wallace... he turned into an amazing player who can basically do everything. Mobley also become a great player as well. Not sure why we let them go...
The problem is Gerald Wallace NOW is not the Gerald Wallace we would have had if we had kept him.
It took him going to Charlotte for him to truly develop some of his talents. He had the potential but it was not realized here and there was little reason to believe that would change.
As far as why we "let them go," Gerald Wallace was taken by Charlotte in the expansion draft. Mobley chose to walk away. He wasn't a good fit here, anyway.
It took him going to Charlotte for him to truly develop some of his talents. He had the potential but it was not realized here and there was little reason to believe that would change.
As far as why we "let them go," Gerald Wallace was taken by Charlotte in the expansion draft. Mobley chose to walk away. He wasn't a good fit here, anyway.
As long as this is a "should have" thread we should have kept a young Vlade, an uninjured Webber, a confident Peja, a prime-time Mitch Richmond and an '02 WCF Bibby. Then we'd RAWK!!
KevinMartinsGirl23
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Gerald Wallace was my favorite King during his duration here and I still am a huge fan. Wallace was a victim of the numbers game- his time with the Kings was when we were LEGIT title contenders, playing behind the likes of Bibby, Christie, Jackson, Peja, etc etc. When the expansion draft took place, we really had no choice but to leave him as one of our mandatory unprotected players, and Charlotte was smart to pick him up- he ended up being a heck of a player for them. As much as I love Gerald, he still is injury plagued, so maybe everything happens for a reason? I wish we could have kept him, but he was in the wrong place at the wrong time..
VF- I agree, Mobley wasn't a good fit- he was a short term solution to a long term problem (replacing Doug) and it looks like we have some serious contenders now with the additions of Martin, Garcia, Salmons and so on.
Someone I wish we kept back in the day was Tony Delk, but Bobby Jackson was a much better choice. And I always really liked Vernon Maxwell.
Gerald Wallace dug himself a hole that - right or wrong - he never quit got out of. In the game in Dallas he took himself out because he thought he was getting a leg cramp. That didn't sit well and it put him in Adelman's doghouse, I think, for a very long time.
supamari0
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I can't even imagine Ron Artest and Vernon Maxwell on the same team. Maxwell wouldve gotten in all kinds of trouble if he played today. I remember when he was in houston, he ran up into the stands and just beat the living day lights out of a fan because he was talking smack about him and his family. And of course the countless other fights he got into. And then he quit on his team (ala Ron and Indiana) after we traded for Clyde Drexler. Plus he was a Rasheed Wallace-esque walking technical foul.
But the guy was a hellacious defender and a monster 3 point shooter. I think when we had him on the Rockets, we went something like 5-1 or 6-1 against the Bulls with Jordan. (Although Doug Christie always seemed to do the same thing to Jordan) It's a shame we never got to play them in the finals because we just might've had their number.
Gerald Wallace was a lost for sure and were Hedo (Ciso and Kmart make up for it though) and Songila (would rather him on the roster than mo taylor) in my opinion
not too sure about the rest. Mo Evans? maybe. but compared to Wallace he aint nothing. The Cat? thank god he's gone. The other guys mentioned in this thred so far were getting old so it kinda made sense to get rid of them.
However,kinda wish we kept Doug Christie though and turned him into a defensive coach or something, esp with Kmart and Cisco on the team.
not too sure about the rest. Mo Evans? maybe. but compared to Wallace he aint nothing. The Cat? thank god he's gone. The other guys mentioned in this thred so far were getting old so it kinda made sense to get rid of them.
However,kinda wish we kept Doug Christie though and turned him into a defensive coach or something, esp with Kmart and Cisco on the team.
supamari0
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You have to think long-term. Yes Webber solves the horrendous power forward issue but he also costs more than 20 million per year leaving you in salary cap hell for the next few years. You would have no chance at any free agents. (next year being a year with tons of them available)
KevinMartinsGirl23
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Yeah, I think I remember that. Was that the Christmas day game? He was having a really good game if I remember right and he started in place of Peja who I believe was serving some silly suspension.
Entity
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We are still paying that money only to Kenny Thomas, Corlis Williamson, Vitaley Potapenko and Sergue Monia.
You're right; whether he thought it was legit or not, he should have played until failure, run on it until he seized up and had to be carried off the court...
Better safe than sorry? Pshaw!
nbrans
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Wallace was pretty roundly criticized by everyone for that, including by people who were close the situation and knew the ins and outs. So VF21 isn't really expressing an opinion, it's the fact -- he should have kept playing.
Did I say he should have kept playing until he seized up?
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What I posted was what happened. I said it and even made the obivous comment about whether it was right or wrong, Wallace was tried and found guilty of not giving forth maximum effort.
You can "pshaw" all you like, dear S£im, but them's the facts. Wallace took himself out of a key game because he THOUGHT he MIGHT be getting a cramp. He made a mistake in judgment. And I firmly believe, based on what I heard at the time and have heard since then, that it was that day that really marked the end of his tenure in Sacramento.
Was it right? Was it wrong? I don't know. I do know that leg cramps, most often caused by dehydration, are nothing like playing through pain or coming back into a game on a sprained ankle so heavily taped up that you can't even bend your foot are considered indicators of dedication, commitment, etc. Not everybody can do it. Wallace couldn't. Others on our team have - over the years - shown that they can. Artest plays through pain. Christie has played through pain a lot. So have some of the others.
Again, whether Gerald was right to do what he did is something only he can wrestle with at this point. I bet if able to go back and relive it, Wallace would play until he collapsed twitching on the court.
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I recall the critcism; I was here, after all. I also recall sticking up for Wallace. And frankly, nothing that I've read or heard in the intervening time has compelled me to change my mind.
VF, no need to get out of sorts; I was being quasi-facetious, anyway. Besides, you know how you and I go 'round and 'round about this issue, ad infinitum, ad nauseum... you had to know that I couldn't let that go without comment...
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