Play Ben
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thats whats been missing 'define role'. cousins and others were asking what their roles were at the beginning of the season. these optional practices, film sessions, game plans aren't helping the team. vivek failed. again. hard.
who will he pick for gm & hc next season? does he have a dart board he tosses to select who he's going with or some software that was developed that helps him pick based on analytics?
who will he pick for gm & hc next season? does he have a dart board he tosses to select who he's going with or some software that was developed that helps him pick based on analytics?
In fact, he will... (sorry, warhawk!)
http://www.capradio.org/articles/20...cisco-artists-approved-for-arena-art-projects
http://www.capradio.org/articles/20...cisco-artists-approved-for-arena-art-projects
In fact, he will... (sorry, warhawk!)
http://www.capradio.org/articles/20...cisco-artists-approved-for-arena-art-projects
http://www.capradio.org/articles/20...cisco-artists-approved-for-arena-art-projects
As I've mentioned before, he's basically been given more minutes the last 2.5 years than any other player so unproductive to start his career in NBA history.
If the team comes out and quits here then who knows, and frankly who cares. If that happens Ben is gone, as are many people in a few months. If we manage to keep contact and make a run down our final 20 games (when the schedule gets soft, not that that ever matters to us), then there is no "play Ben". There is, however, as always, Ben plays himself back into minutes by actually helping the team. Oddly that is supposed to be the relationship -- Ben isn't supposed to be some suckling orphan drawing constant concern and attention, he's supposed to be a professional helping the organization paying him millions of dollars to win some games. He's welcome to do that at any point, and if he does, then yes he should play.
If the team comes out and quits here then who knows, and frankly who cares. If that happens Ben is gone, as are many people in a few months. If we manage to keep contact and make a run down our final 20 games (when the schedule gets soft, not that that ever matters to us), then there is no "play Ben". There is, however, as always, Ben plays himself back into minutes by actually helping the team. Oddly that is supposed to be the relationship -- Ben isn't supposed to be some suckling orphan drawing constant concern and attention, he's supposed to be a professional helping the organization paying him millions of dollars to win some games. He's welcome to do that at any point, and if he does, then yes he should play.
In fact, he will... (sorry, warhawk!)
http://www.capradio.org/articles/20...cisco-artists-approved-for-arena-art-projects
http://www.capradio.org/articles/20...cisco-artists-approved-for-arena-art-projects
Hey brick, why did you choose to ignore the stats I actually provided for you on Ben getting one of the least touches in the NBA for a SG? You've made this argument in the other thread, and when I actually provided stats on his opportunities this year, you didn't say a single thing...then proceed to bring up the same argument. I'm just curious
Almost 24 minutes tonight for Ben and, except for that totally meaningless bucket at the end and his 40 ft. shot during dead time, he did close to nothing. 2 points, 2 boards, 1 asst and 4 fouls? It's getting awfully hard to keep defending him.
Of course, tonight he wasn't the worst player on the court because James Anderson.
Of course, tonight he wasn't the worst player on the court because James Anderson.
Ben was particularly bad tonight on offense. Just never looked very involved or quite sure of where he was supposed to be on the court. I thought he still brought his usual brand of semi-effective hustle on defense though. He could be a difference maker on that end if he bulks up a little bit. He moves his feet well guarding the ball but quickness alone without strength or anticipation only gets you so far. I focused on him when he was on the court because I made such a big deal about keeping him over the All-Star break, but unfortunately he did a lot to appease the critics in this game. Hopefully he has a nice bounce-back game to follow this up because the last thing we need is even more Marco and James Anderson for the next 28 games.
Are you talking about Tony Snell? The guy who is the worse version of Ben?
Ben wasn't the one leaving him wide open though..
If Mudiay scoring 8pts means almost reaching his career high...he's got a lot of work to do.
Yea, Ben's offense was bad tonight. However, I thought his defense was really good. He got caught on a switch early in the half, and actually denied his man really well.
I think the team played better perimeter D as a unit, but Ben really set the tone with how tight he played Mudiay early on. Mudiay needs a lot of work...to say the least. He had trouble dribbling around Ben. I feel like his handles are extremely limited. He's certainly good enough to improve on them though.
Ben wasn't the one leaving him wide open though..
If Mudiay scoring 8pts means almost reaching his career high...he's got a lot of work to do.
Yea, Ben's offense was bad tonight. However, I thought his defense was really good. He got caught on a switch early in the half, and actually denied his man really well.
I think the team played better perimeter D as a unit, but Ben really set the tone with how tight he played Mudiay early on. Mudiay needs a lot of work...to say the least. He had trouble dribbling around Ben. I feel like his handles are extremely limited. He's certainly good enough to improve on them though.
I refuse to listen to Karl's post game comments any more so I didn't hear that. And, to be honest, I wasn't specifically watching his defense - although now that you mention it I do recall a couple of times he really dug in and stayed with his man.
I still think Anderson totally sucked, however.
I still think Anderson totally sucked, however.
If Rondo/Collison/Anderson/Ben can stay in front of their men, especially with WCS on the floor I'd like to see more early pressure. It seemed to hurt the Nuggets quite a bit.
I'm not sure we could do it with Marco on the floor unless he was at SF though.
I'm pretty sure I talked about his injury history too. I even went as far back as pointing out how many games he's missed each season in a thread. I could find it for you if you'd like.
And I'm pretty sure I replied about Shump's offense after people claimed that he was an average shooter...while ignoring that he's a straight up terrible offensive player all around...including shooting. 32.6% this year. Only had 2 years at least 35%... his 2nd year while only playing 45 games, and his 4th season while only playing 28 games... someone tried to make the argument by bringing in those small sample sized numbers.
And I'm pretty sure I replied about Shump's offense after people claimed that he was an average shooter...while ignoring that he's a straight up terrible offensive player all around...including shooting. 32.6% this year. Only had 2 years at least 35%... his 2nd year while only playing 45 games, and his 4th season while only playing 28 games... someone tried to make the argument by bringing in those small sample sized numbers.
If you have a great defender and a great offensive creating SG, you get Kobe Bryant. If you get a guy who is a good defender, shoots for a good percentage and on occasion gives you a good offensive outburst, then you have a legit guard.
We keep wanting our whole starting 5 to be at an all star level. Not realistic expectations.
We keep wanting our whole starting 5 to be at an all star level. Not realistic expectations.