Petries job in doubt?

[Circa_1985_Fan]

For some reason Petrie saw something in a Salmon's 2nd coming that he thought would benefit our young team...his dynamics might not be best suited for this team. I compare getting Salmons to an earlier move Petrie made when he got Nick Anderson, and after that season rectified that situation with the Doug Christie trade. So who knows what the financially strapped Geoff will do next to upgrade our team...I'd have to think he's looking at potential moves though.

 

[pshn80]

Petrie's job at risk?

Not when he picks great players like we have on the team now. Yes, after 3 in a row.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Petrie's job at risk?

Not when he picks great players like we have on the team now. Yes, after 3 in a row.

Its progress for sure...we're supposed to beat Hornets and Warriors, and probably wouldn't have a little earlier this season...not world beaters yet, but progress nonetheless...baby steps. Gotta crawl as a team before we walk as a team, right?

 

[VF21]

Its progress for sure...we're supposed to beat Hornets and Warriors, and probably wouldn't have a little earlier this season...not world beaters yet, but progress nonetheless...baby steps. Gotta crawl as a team before we walk as a team, right?

Got to think like a team before you can crawl like a team. I'm just glad they're beginning to trust each other. That's a huge step in the right direction!!!

 

[The_Jamal]

Yes, DMC and Tyreke becoming stars are more critical, but I sustain that if Salmons continued playing as bad as he was, combined with the complete inability of the team to even run a play on offense without turning it over against solid defenses, he may well have not had the advantage of time for Tyreke and DMC to develop enough to make that clear.

Without Salmons and IT, the Kings would have lost the last 3 games.
In a row.

Petrie would have still been on the fire.

100% agree. People want to pin all our hopes and dreams on Boogie and Evans becoming superstars. When in reality, it doesn't matter how good they become if we can't put a team around them that compliments and supports their talents. Last years finals is a perfect example of team basketball being better than having the 2-3 best players on the court

 

[Heuge]

The last 8 years? Really?

2010-11 Sacramento 24 58 .293 5th Pacific Division - - - DNQ
2009-10 Sacramento 25 57 .305 5th Pacific Division - - - DNQ
2008-09 Sacramento 17 65 .207 5th Pacific Division - - - DNQ
2007-08 Sacramento 38 44 .463 4th Pacific Division - - - DNQ
2006-07 Sacramento 33 49 .402 5th Pacific Division - - - DNQ
2005-06 Sacramento 44 38 .537 4th Pacific Division 2 4 .333 Lost West Conf 1st Rd
2004-05 Sacramento 50 32 .610 2nd Pacific Division 1 4 .200 Lost West Conf 1st Rd
2003-04 Sacramento 55 27 .671 2nd Pacific Division 7 5 .583 Lost West Conf Semis

Really.
That is quite the impressive decline.

 

[King Baller]

Really.
That is quite the impressive decline.

Ok, there is some losing in there. But not for 8 years. It was 6

And we suffered through it all. Now things are starting to turn around. Coach Smart is a winner.

Thats all,
Keith

 

[Rookie]

Personally I don't judge GM by win/lost but talents and overall team building and reasoning for decisions made. Predicting how a player play after all talents/risks had been analyzed before a trade is difficult. He had provided the talents needed for this team as a whole (some position even with backup plan has not planned out...it happens), and it was up to the coach to put it all together. Hence I never like PW, even earlier last season. First time I ever gave an opinion against a coach.

But of course it's easier for people to look at the result and then judge.

 

[KevinSalvadori]

Let's see what this season still holds- this shortened year has made things crazy, and there could be some interesting deals out there considering our cap room. Time will tell- hell, maybe a guy like AK would be enticed if we offered 7M to play 24 games. Hopefully we can make some great moves over the next month and a half.

 

[steelevt]

Mission Accomplished. I know Hickson is a power foward, but he is a lost cause and needs to be traded before he hurts his trade value anymore.

what gets me mad about the omri/jj trade is the conditional first round pick that we sent away. trading hickson away wont make the trade a wash because we still have to worry about losing the first round pick until 2017 which then we lose a second round pick. so unless we trade hickson for a player and a pick, if feel we lost out on this trade.

 

[upinsmoke]

yea GP really has been stinkin up the place with his trading, he's really solid at drafting late picks but has just lost his touch with player trading.

 

[Bricklayer]

yea GP really has been stinkin up the place with his trading, he's really solid at drafting late picks but has just lost his touch with player trading.

Marcus Thornton says hi.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Cant win every trade. Cant build with cheap owners that make false claims either (spend every penny of it). Can build quickly when the owner is willing to spend at all costs ie see paul allen, pritchard.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

You have to add in the hire of Keith Smart to the mix. I think Petrie's job is safe.

Trying really hard to be optimistic here but maloof intervention leads me to believe otherwise.

 

[origkds]

Marcus Thornton says hi.

Considering that Petrie has been operating with one hand tied behind back, the trade for Thornton was nothing short of amazing.

 

[whozit]

Considering that Petrie has been operating with one hand tied behind back, the trade for Thornton was nothing short of amazing.

I like Petrie, but I don't know if I would give too much credit here. My memory might be failing me but it seemed like several of the cost cutting, spare cash getting trades the Kings move the past several years involved "low cost" players that "maybe" would pan out. One finally did.

However with the constraints I believe he has been working with, things could be much worse.

 

[upinsmoke]

Marcus Thornton says hi.

Mike Bibby to ATL for a group of scrubs and a 2nd rounder.
The c-webb deal.
Let crash walk
Tried to give Bonzi wells a 5-year, $38.5 million offer lol
Garcias inflated contract.
traded Beno and our pick away for salmons while missing on much better players to draft Jimmer.
Traded casspi AND a protected pick for Hickson who has underwhelmed us.(ron artest)
Let Dally walk. (rather overpay salmons i guess)
Coaching Hiring. (holding breath for smart)

Time to move him to the scouting dept.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Really.
That is quite the impressive decline.

It is said that the darkest hour of the night comes just before the dawn.

 

[upinsmoke]

he better do something slick about JJ hickson
21mins/5.8pts/0.5ast/5.7rebs/0.4blks REALLY

 

[kennadog]

It is said that the darkest hour of the night comes just before the dawn.

Then we must be in a midwinter night.

 

[pshn80]

Mike Bibby to ATL for a group of scrubs and a 2nd rounder.
The c-webb deal.
Let crash walk
Tried to give Bonzi wells a 5-year, $38.5 million offer lol
Garcias inflated contract.
traded Beno and our pick away for salmons while missing on much better players to draft Jimmer.
Traded casspi AND a protected pick for Hickson who has underwhelmed us.(ron artest)
Let Dally walk. (rather overpay salmons i guess)
Coaching Hiring. (holding breath for smart)

Time to move him to the scouting dept.

Just don't agree with any of this. Petrie is the best there is. I wouldn't trade him for anyone. Just to let you know that you might be right but I don't think so.

 

[Kingsguy881]

Mike Bibby to ATL for a group of scrubs and a 2nd rounder.
The c-webb deal.
Let crash walk
Tried to give Bonzi wells a 5-year, $38.5 million offer lol
Garcias inflated contract.
traded Beno and our pick away for salmons while missing on much better players to draft Jimmer.
Traded casspi AND a protected pick for Hickson who has underwhelmed us.(ron artest)
Let Dally walk. (rather overpay salmons i guess)
Coaching Hiring. (holding breath for smart)

Time to move him to the scouting dept.

You're tripping.
Mike BIbby did nothing, NOTHING once he left here, his skills steadily declined.
C-Webb - out of the league within two years, steadily declined.
The Wallace thing has been explained at length, Kings were the victims of Peeler taking his option and they had to leave someone unprotected, at the time Wallace was nothing. Sure bud, hindsight is 20/20 and all.
At the time, Bonzi revitalized the squad and helped propel them to the playoffs and almost a 1st rd upset of the Spurs.
Garcia is a wash. Nothing better for the price.
Beno trade was a severe upgrade for the SF position. Just how is Beno working out in Milwaukie btw?
Casspi is playing horribly in CLE, not much better if it can even be said to be better than Hickson.
Dally played us like a violin and walked to Houston for less money than we were offering. So really, we offered him one contract, he turned it down and signed for less money elsewhere. THAT is not letting someone walk my good sir, that is you fabricating stuff.
So far, Smart has been a shrewd hiring.

 

[upinsmoke]

I love you guys but nobody drinks the kool-aid like sacramento. I have lived all over cali and in any other city the whole front office would be toast by now.

 

[Section 101]

You're tripping.
Mike BIbby did nothing, NOTHING once he left here, his skills steadily declined.
C-Webb - out of the league within two years, steadily declined.
The Wallace thing has been explained at length, Kings were the victims of Peeler taking his option and they had to leave someone unprotected, at the time Wallace was nothing. Sure bud, hindsight is 20/20 and all.
At the time, Bonzi revitalized the squad and helped propel them to the playoffs and almost a 1st rd upset of the Spurs.
Garcia is a wash. Nothing better for the price.
Beno trade was a severe upgrade for the SF position. Just how is Beno working out in Milwaukie btw?
Casspi is playing horribly in CLE, not much better if it can even be said to be better than Hickson.
Dally played us like a violin and walked to Houston for less money than we were offering. So really, we offered him one contract, he turned it down and signed for less money elsewhere. THAT is not letting someone walk my good sir, that is you fabricating stuff.
So far, Smart has been a shrewd hiring.

How do you run a franchise into the ground? By trading too early or too late.

The webber trade hampered us for years after it would have expired. If we just let him expire we would have been better off. The same with bibby or we could have traded him earlier for better value. Garcia is way over paid at a time we didnt have to pay him. How much would he have cost after the injury if we wanted to bring him back? Nothing.

Salmons is not an upgrade over Donte it's a downgrade. Not to mention we took on another year of salary.

We got lucky Bonzi turned down the deal, it was another case of over paying to make a player feel wanted.

Smart is the only thing keeping him from being a total disaster this year.

Oh and our front office was ranked 29th only beating out the Suns in ESPN's future rankings.

 

[upinsmoke]

Show us what you got Petrie your on the clock.

 

[gunks]

Mike Bibby to ATL for a group of scrubs and a 2nd rounder.
The c-webb deal.
Let crash walk
Tried to give Bonzi wells a 5-year, $38.5 million offer lol
Garcias inflated contract.
traded Beno and our pick away for salmons while missing on much better players to draft Jimmer.
Traded casspi AND a protected pick for Hickson who has underwhelmed us.(ron artest)
Let Dally walk. (rather overpay salmons i guess)
Coaching Hiring. (holding breath for smart)

Time to move him to the scouting dept.

You forgot Artest for Greene and what would become Casspi.
Bibby for Sheldon Williams and Miller for Nocioni, when both players could have netted us more than crap.
Martin for Landry...

I'm sure I'm forgetting some crap trades, there has been so many.


Only good ones of the past 7+ years have been the Peja for Ron (which was a Maloof trade, GP didnt want to do it), Landry for Thornton, and Hawes/Noc for Rent-a-Dally.

Worst move on GPs part is Westphail. That guys coaching style was HORRIBLE for a rebuilding team (horrible for any team really), just killed any progress we could have hoped for in our young players. Westphail was GP's guy. He lasted 2 years because of GP, and GP didnt want him fired earlier in the season. That is a terrible move on Petrie's part. Just cause they're pals. Screw nepotism.

I'm for firing GP if we can get us a good replacement.

 

[Mass]

You must be totally blind to defend Petrie's job when it comes to trades. He is great, maybe the best in drafting, but he has been horrible in trading players. He's also been questionable on the FA market. Anyone remembers Mikky Moore?

We should have two GMs. Geoff should only draft players.

 

[ArcoKings]

Isn't Petrie's contract towards the end? If so, he should just finish his time here and then ownership can start looking for someone. I hope the Maloofs get good advise and make a good, solid hire. They cannot Westphalize this critical position in the organization. That's your bread and better!

 

[Glenn]

The Maloofs have one of the greatest yes men they could hire. He does what they command. Why would they hire anyone else? He serves their needs which unfortunately seems to mean that acquiring expensive players and coaches is secondary to conserving money.