Petrie to be on am 1140 at 5:30 pm 5/18

[VF21]

Yeah and the "horse's mouth" also said that they would give Pedja the max.

There is no question we should re-sign Bonzi but everything that comes out of Maloof's mouth these days, I take with a pinch of salt.

I will believe it when I see it.

I refer you to my post above.

I have a copy on tape of the actual interview where a very excited Gavin Maloof is asked about a maximum contract for Peja. (It was minutes after an emotional win over the Lakers). The question was, "Are you going to give Peja the maximum to stay a King?" His first response was, "Yes, we'll do whatever it takes." Then, within a couple of sentences, he had tempered that somewhat, realiziing he had - in the heat of the moment - said something he didn't really mean to say.

And that, of course, was long before the 2005-2006 season, when it became clear Peja and the Kings just were not a good fit any longer.

 

[ParniValjak]

I refer you to my post above.

I have a copy on tape of the actual interview where a very excited Gavin Maloof is asked about a maximum contract for Peja. (It was minutes after an emotional win over the Lakers). The question was, "Are you going to give Peja the maximum to stay a King?" His first response was, "Yes, we'll do whatever it takes." Then, within a couple of sentences, he had tempered that somewhat, realiziing he had - in the heat of the moment - said something he didn't really mean to say.

And that, of course, was long before the 2005-2006 season, when it became clear Peja and the Kings just were not a good fit any longer.

Look, if you want to beleive them, thats your choice, but to me they have made some statements over the years and have gon eback on their word.

Maloofs have shown over the last couple of seasons that they are not prepared to pay luxury tax. Yes they spent a lot to start with but then gradually they kept cutting their expenses.

Now as contructed, we are not a genuine contender. We are a VERY good play off team but not a conteder. Are Maloofs going to give Bonzi a multi-year deal (at the age of 30) that is likely yo take them into the luxury tax terriroty? I am hopeful but doubtful.

As I said, what ever they say these days, I take with a pinch of salt. My #1 priority would be to re-sign Bonzi as soon as possible, but I am not quite sure Maloofs feel the same way. They might say they do, but to me actions speak loud than words.

IMHO, Bonzi-Artest Combo is terrific to build around under the proviso that both can be managed, especially Artest.

 

[VF21]

I heard the tape myself. If you choose not to accept my word, that's your choice. Why would I lie about it?

Have a nice evening.

 

[ParniValjak]

I heard the tape myself. If you choose not to accept my word, that's your choice. Why would I lie about it?

Have a nice evening.

I never said I didn't believe you and I only used Peja situation as an example as to why I don't believe Maloofs. There have been a number of things said by them over the years that resulted in completely the opposite.

This has nothing to do with believing you or the tape you heard which Nebojsa provided you with.

 

[VF21]

Then please read my comments above. You're trying to hold the Maloofs to comments made at a certain point in time even though things changed after that time that totally changed the big picture.

That's the problem with those kinds of quotes.

On the other hand, I don't believe everything they say - but not for the same reason. I don't buy into it all because they shouldn't have to divulge business "secets" and, if asked, I don't expect them to do so.

If a reporter asks, then I think they can answer and then go entirely in a different direction. Personally, if I were in their shoes, I'd be saying, "You know my answer to that might change tomorrow" or something similar.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Sweet, at least I won't have to listen to any more of that Larry Brown talk. Sorry Voison..

For real! I'm relieved that we WONT be bringing him in, I felt it would have been bad, and felt that way all along...Larry needs to take a nice long break(if he is bought out, of course), kinda like what ole' Phil Jackson did, and what Adelman is doing in the present. He has to get his fire back...thats the last thing we needed was a tired coach recovering from drama. I say this with all due respect to Mr. Brown, of course.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

I disagree vehemently. I think it will prove that they are becoming better fiscal stewards and are committed to developing the team through shrewd drafting and responsible free agent signings (SAR and the like).

If the Maloofs let Bonzi go, and sign a backup guard like Bobby Jackson, then use the rest of the money that would have gone to Bonzi to sign another big, would you be unhappy??(not saying that I want it to happen, obviously) We would be doing sort of what the Patriots did a few years back, building their team with smart, and fiscally realistic free-agent signings, and that led them to 3 rings.(I know thats the NFL, but a decent analogy )

 

[BMiller52]

If the Maloofs let Bonzi go, and sign a backup guard like Bobby Jackson, then use the rest of the money that would have gone to Bonzi to sign another big, would you be unhappy??(not saying that I want it to happen, obviously) We would be doing sort of what the Patriots did a few years back, building their team with smart, and fiscally realistic free-agent signings, and that led them to 3 rings.(I know thats the NFL, but a decent analogy )

Won't work because we'd still be over the cap. It'd have to be a S&T.

 

[wow22]

walker put it right where it's at ... bonz is great and all.. but two years down the road when we need to resign kevin and garcia, we will look very smart..
smart teams let their prized free agents go...

 

[Kings113]

At the most I'd like to keep him at 4-years. Maybe 5...

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm

 

[VF21]

walker put it right where it's at ... bonz is great and all.. but two years down the road when we need to resign kevin and garcia, we will look very smart..
smart teams let their prized free agents go...

Walker said:

He's definitley not going to get any better, his play at best, will remain similar to how it is now.

Isn't Bonzi's play at the level it is right now exactly what we were hoping for when we got him?

Smart teams let their prized free agents go? Okay, that's just silly.

 

[Padrino]

walker put it right where it's at ... bonz is great and all.. but two years down the road when we need to resign kevin and garcia, we will look very smart..
smart teams let their prized free agents go...

wrong. smart teams let their bad ending contracts go. you don't bleed talent because you think you have something special in two young guys. you know what you have in bonzi, and the mismatches he creates and the havoc he causes for other teams is something special, and something you can take to the bank. bonzi does not have a bad ending contract, and for what he brings, he will earn his new contract over the next few years.

 

[kennadog]

I listened to the GP interview, too. I did not get the impression he was tepid about Bonzi at all. Said he was great. The impression I got was that he was tepid about talking about what they were going to do about Bonzi. He started right out by saying he really couldn't talk much about it before July 1st. And then he proceeded to make generally mild, brief statements and did not say too much.

 

[VF21]

I listened to the GP interview, too. I did not get the impression he was tepid about Bonzi at all. Said he was great. The impression I got was that he was tepid about talking about what they were going to do about Bonzi. He started right out by saying he really couldn't talk much about it before July 1st. And then he proceeded to make generally mild, brief statements and did not say too much.

In other words, pretty much like every other "in depth" inteview held with Geoff Petrie?

 

[walker60]

Just have to bring this up, but what if in two years, and this is pretty likely, Kevin Martin starts to outplay Bonzi Wells. This is highly plausible as KMart will be entering his prime at 25 and Bonzi will be leaving his prime at age 32. Would we bench a guy making nine million a year who's in year two of his five year contract? How would Bonzi handle this?

Last year he went nuts when he wasn't getting close to 30 minutes a night. Remember the guy is a helluva player and Memphis wouldn't even let him in the building. Would he do it this time around? Now what if Garcia also becomes a better player in two years when he enters his prime? Would we move our 9-Million-dollar-man to backup SF behind Artest where he would be getting 17 minutes a night? Based upon the past 8 years of his career I don't think he would handle it.

IMO, if Bonzi will sign for a three year deal I would do it, he is a good player after all. But if not, I would handcuff him with Brad Miller to try and get some upgrades in the frontcourt. His age, the big contract he'll pull in, off-court issues, injuries, stunting the development of our younger guards, and the probability of getting good trade value for him all seem like good enough reasons to not bring him back based upon 4 good playoff games. We already have one gamble with Artest, and I don't think we should have another in Artest.

 

[kennadog]

In other words, pretty much like every other "in depth" inteview held with Geoff Petrie?

Actually, I thought GP was quite talkative tonight. It was a really good interview. It was clear he didn't want to commit a no-no by talking about Bonzi too much pre-free agency time. A guy could get in trouble that way.

Interestingly, he also said that he and the Maloofs have, ultimately, never disagreed on a decision. He said one or the other might have some reservations about a decision, but no decision has ever been made where they were in true disagreement. Neither party has been obstructionist, as he put it. Sounded to me like he has a really good realtionship with the Maloofs and ery much enjoys working for/with them.

 

[VF21]

Just have to bring this up, but what if in two years, and this is pretty likely, Kevin Martin starts to outplay Bonzi Wells. This is highly plausible as KMart will be entering his prime at 25 and Bonzi will be leaving his prime at age 32. Would we bench a guy making nine million a year who's in year two of his five year contract? How would Bonzi handle this?

Last year he went nuts when he wasn't getting close to 30 minutes a night. Remember the guy is a helluva player and Memphis wouldn't even let him in the building. Would he do it this time around? Now what if Garcia also becomes a better player in two years when he enters his prime? Would we move our 9-Million-dollar-man to backup SF behind Artest where he would be getting 17 minutes a night? Based upon the past 8 years of his career I don't think he would handle it.

IMO, if Bonzi will sign for a three year deal I would do it, he is a good player after all. But if not, I would handcuff him with Brad Miller to try and get some upgrades in the frontcourt. His age, the big contract he'll pull in, off-court issues, injuries, stunting the development of our younger guards, and the probability of getting good trade value for him all seem like good enough reasons to not bring him back based upon 4 good playoff games. We already have one gamble with Artest, and I don't think we should have another in Artest.

This has been addressed several times. MArtin is still, at this point, a work in progress. Give him another year and see if he starts to really fulfill his potential. THEN trade Bonzi.

 

[kennadog]

Just have to bring this up, but what if in two years, and this is pretty likely, Kevin Martin starts to outplay Bonzi Wells. This is highly plausible as KMart will be entering his prime at 25 and Bonzi will be leaving his prime at age 32. Would we bench a guy making nine million a year who's in year two of his five year contract? How would Bonzi handle this?

Last year he went nuts when he wasn't getting close to 30 minutes a night. Remember the guy is a helluva player and Memphis wouldn't even let him in the building. Would he do it this time around? Now what if Garcia also becomes a better player in two years when he enters his prime? Would we move our 9-Million-dollar-man to backup SF behind Artest where he would be getting 17 minutes a night? Based upon the past 8 years of his career I don't think he would handle it.

IMO, if Bonzi will sign for a three year deal I would do it, he is a good player after all. But if not, I would handcuff him with Brad Miller to try and get some upgrades in the frontcourt. His age, the big contract he'll pull in, off-court issues, injuries, stunting the development of our younger guards, and the probability of getting good trade value for him all seem like good enough reasons to not bring him back based upon 4 good playoff games. We already have one gamble with Artest, and I don't think we should have another in Artest.

I'm not sure you can judge how a player will react a few years down the road in an entirley different situation and an entirely different point in his career. Anyway, we can't "handcuff' him to Brad in a trade unless we do sign him. (S&T)

 

[Ryle]

Sweet, at least I won't have to listen to any more of that Larry Brown talk. Sorry Voison..

People, I don't know if you guys/women actually realize that Larry Brown is UNDER CONTRACT at this time with the Knicks. Petrie can't say a damn word as to whether or not he would like to have him coach the team or not or he gets a pretty hefty fine from the NBA.

 

[El_Abayarde20]

Please Petrie.....sign Bonzi!!!please!!!!!

 

[keflanag]

This has been addressed several times. MArtin is still, at this point, a work in progress. Give him another year and see if he starts to really fulfill his potential. THEN trade Bonzi.

The problem with that is that Bonzi might not be very tradeable in a couple years. What if he has a few more injuries? What if his age starts to show more? What if he doesn't play next year like it's a contract year like this one? I say re-sign Bonzi at the right price. But don't overpay him to the detriment of signing some potential backups at positions where we don't have rising stars.

 

[VF21]

The problem with that is that Bonzi might not be very tradeable in a couple years. What if he has a few more injuries? What if his age starts to show more? What if he doesn't play next year like it's a contract year like this one? I say re-sign Bonzi at the right price. But don't overpay him to the detriment of signing some potential backups at positions where we don't have rising stars.

There's a chance with ANY athlete that he could have a career-ending injury the very next game so you cannot IMHO base your opinion on a fear that something might happen.

I, too, think we should re-sign Bonzi at the right price because I think he's worth it and I think it would give Kevin a little more time to hone his skills. On the other hand, if a sign-and-trade with Bonzi could be drafted that would bring us serious help in the frontcourt, I'd be all for it, too.

Bonzi has bounced around, had his troubles and is now pretty happy here. He's said before his primary concern isn't about the money, unless someone offers him the BIG DEAL, and I tend to believe him. He's finally found a home here, the fans love him, the owners love him, etc. I think a reasonable offer will be very quickly accepted.

 

[keflanag]

Bonzi has bounced around, had his troubles and is now pretty happy here. He's said before his primary concern isn't about the money, unless someone offers him the BIG DEAL, and I tend to believe him. He's finally found a home here, the fans love him, the owners love him, etc. I think a reasonable offer will be very quickly accepted.

I'm hoping he means that when he says it's "not about the money". But I'm a little skeptical since I've heard tons of athletes say that only to move on to mediocre teams who write the big check. The minute he signs a deal to stay with the Kings for less than he could have gotten elsewhere, I'll be buying my Bonzi jersey. But until then, I have trouble believing he'll pass up a few million a year just to stay here. I predict he'll sign with whoever offers him the longest contract, not the most lucrative. And I just can't see the Kings investing 6-7 years in a 30 year old SG.

 

[slugking50]

Heres the GP KHTK Interview.


http://sports1140.com/Article.asp?id=48647