Peja wants out? (Merged)

piksi said:
Last and only time we got something in a trade was Chris Webber

Well, one can argue about DC too.

We traded Jason Williams for Mike Bibby, and we also traded Scot Pollard and Hedo Turkoglu for Brad Miller.
 
Superman said:
We traded Jason Williams for Mike Bibby, and we also traded Scot Pollard and Hedo Turkoglu for Brad Miller.
those we trades we got stuff from, Petrie got taken to the cleaners in the Webb trade.
 
Yoda said:
Petrie got taken to the cleaners in the Webb trade.
Careful^.. the thread might get closed :rolleyes: . Lets just all pretend that elephant isn't standing in the corner... it's much safer.
 
I don't have a picture of an elephant...

Will this do?

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Chris Sheridan chat

Here's a tidbit about Peja from Chris Sheridan's chat on ESPN today:

Ryan (Outside the Chi): I'm no an ESPN Insider but I keep seeing these teasers for artices relating to the rumor the Bulls are after Peja. Is that true?

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Chris Sheridan: Scott Skiles has been a huge Peja fan since they were both working in Greece in the mid-'90s, and a couple sources around the league tell me there's nothing that will keep Stojakovic from going to Chicago when he's a free agent next summer. I'm not sure the Bulls will be willing to give Peja everythin his agent will ask for, but there's probably a middle ground that can easily be reached by both sides. If the Kings are convinced they're going to lose Peja, it makes sense for them to trade him bfore the deadline rather than get nothing in return a few months later.


If this is true Petrie has to trade Peja before the deadline.

Of course, this is ESPN Insider we're talking about, which means it's about as trustworthy as Dick Bavetta.
 
Peja will be gone next year no matter what happens if the Kings are willing to get something in return then they can trade Peja to the Bulls for somone like Deng and a 1st round pick.
 
Unfortunately if Peja really wants to go the Kings don't have much leverage at all to trade him. Why would Chicago have any incentive to trade Deng if they knew that if they just waited Peja will just sign with them in the offseason? The only hope is to trade Peja somewhere he doesn't want to go, but then would that team make the trade with the risk of Peja walking at the end of the year? I don't know.

I need to stop thinking about this or I'm going to get depressed.
 
nbrans said:
Unfortunately if Peja really wants to go the Kings don't have much leverage at all to trade him. Why would Chicago have any incentive to trade Deng if they knew that if they just waited Peja will just sign with them in the offseason? The only hope is to trade Peja somewhere he doesn't want to go, but then would that team make the trade with the risk of Peja walking at the end of the year? I don't know.

I need to stop thinking about this or I'm going to get depressed.

Good question, thing is its much more willing when both sides deal then to wait to see another desprate team overpay Peja when Peja suddenly realizes to go to the team who overpays him the most kind of like the Hawks did with Joe Johnson and Cavs with Larry Hughes.
 
This is why the Kings have to offer Peja the max, or at least exceed the maximum another team could pay him. I'm not saying he deserves it, but who cares about cap flexibility, the Kings aren't going to be under the cap in the foreseeable future, and it seems like the only way to avoid him walking for nothing.

(ducks for cover)
 
^^^That's very true, even if we want to trade Peja. By offering him the max we have an opportunity to trade him rather than walk for free. By just matching whatever a team like Chicago will offer we basically guarantee that he is gone, and that we get nothing back.
 
To offer Peja the max we had to clear space and that's what's been happening the past few seasons. There is no way that he will walk without the Kings getting anything in return.
 
nbrans said:
This is why the Kings have to offer Peja the max, or at least exceed the maximum another team could pay him. I'm not saying he deserves it, but who cares about cap flexibility, the Kings aren't going to be under the cap in the foreseeable future, and it seems like the only way to avoid him walking for nothing.

(ducks for cover)
You duck for cover because you know the absurdity of your comment. Why pay someone who deosnt deserve the max. So he won't leave us? Is he the type of player we cant be without? Can he bring us a championship? Not as a max player. If it is Peja at the max or no Peja at all, I say Peja dont let the door hit you on the way out. We will survive without him.
 
Yoda said:
You duck for cover because you know the absurdity of your comment. Why pay someone who deosnt deserve the max. So he won't leave us? Is he the type of player we cant be without? Can he bring us a championship? Not as a max player. If it is Peja at the max or no Peja at all, I say Peja dont let the door hit you on the way out. We will survive without him.

No, so that we at least have the opportunity of trading him in the future and getting something in return. We can let him walk, and still be over the cap, and have even less flexibility than before, not more, since our good trade stock is dwindling down. We can't sign any good players for a few years, and we are loaded with overpaid players despite not signing Peja. Letting Peja go and crossing our fingers that we somehow turn a corner while bleeding ourselves of talent, we are priming to go back into the basement and not come out for years. In a vaccuum, yes, giving Peja the max is stupid. But in reality, the alternative is just as bad if not worse. I'm not saying give him the max and pay him all six years, but trade him now, or resign him and trade him later (barring, of course, that the team somehow gets really good with him on board) Right now, Peja's trade value is minimal since he will walk at the end of the year, so a trade now get's us less value and still no cap relief. The best of a bad situation is to sign and trade when summer comes, and if that's not possible, give him his money and hold on to him until a better trade prospect comes along.

Honestly, tell me this. How can we ever become an elite team again if we let a guy like Peja walk for nothing? Give me any good scenario for the next 3 years where we can actually rebuild around 4 fairly good players- who have proven taht they cannot carry them team- and no cap space, no flexibility.
 
Smart_guy3 said:
Whoever thinks Peja deserves the Max is ridiclous.

i agree. IMO he's a one trick pony. Sure, he can bust out the three from 30 feet, but it seems like he gives a lot of it back on defense. Don't get me wrong, I think Peja is a world-class shooter. Its just that the Kings aren't playing horse. A max player shouldn't be one dimensional- they should be able to score (which he is more than capable of doing), play defense, and rebound. A guy who is 6' 10" should grab more than 4 or 5 rebounds a game..
 
I'm going to merge this into the Peja to the Bulls thread because there's no reason to have the same discussion twice...
 
Hopefully around december 15th, peja has 7 straight 30+ point games and we deal him, reef, draft picks, martin+ stuff to minny for garnett and wally:D
 
Question if we were to pick a team to trade Peja would you guys want him to go to the Lakers for Odom or Chicago for Deng?????
 
Smart_guy3 said:
Question if we were to pick a team to trade Peja would you guys want him to go to the Lakers for Odom or Chicago for Deng?????

if we have to send peja to chicago, id want ben gordon in return. I keep reading that Tim Thomas is going to be moved- he has a huge contract, but it expires after this year.

Peja + KT for Tim Thomas & Ben Gordon?
 
WalMatt23 said:
if we have to send peja to chicago, id want ben gordon in return. I keep reading that Tim Thomas is going to be moved- he has a huge contract, but it expires after this year.

Peja + KT for Tim Thomas & Ben Gordon?

Why would Chicago do that when they could sign Pedja outright at the end of the year. So the trade turns up to be KT for Ben Gordon and I could tell you the Bulls would say no.
 
ok, well at the end of the year the kings will be able to offer him a longer contract than the bulls. So, in that regard a sign & trade could be worked out. Although Peja/Skiles may have an affinity for each other, Peja still wants his money.
 
Smart_guy3 said:
Question if we were to pick a team to trade Peja would you guys want him to go to the Lakers for Odom or Chicago for Deng?????

IF Peja is traded, he will not be going to a team in the Pacific Division. It will not happen. You can take that to the bank...
 
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