Peja- clearing the air

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Here's the un-edited version of the piece on Peja that 1kingzfan was careless enough to send to his editor from my computer.
PEJA STOJAKOVIC: CLEARING THE AIR by Steve Crane
Peja Stojakovic sat quietly in the stands of the Folsom High School gym, watching carefully and smiling at the kids having fun at his Peja & Vlade Basketball Camp. Stojakovic was in town during the last two weeks in July with good friend Vlade Divac to participate in his camp and interact with the kids. He graciously took a few minutes away from his campers to clear the air on several issues of interest to area fans concerning his past, present, and future with the Sacramento Kings.



Stojakovic first addressed what he has been doing this summer to stay physically fit and prepare for the coming NBA season. While clearly not a “gym rat,” Stojakovic is putting in regular work this summer.



“I’ve been working out for myself,” he said. “I always go on the court to play basketball. I go two hours a day, but I don’t do any conditioning right now. I just do basketball and lifting weights. It’s too early for conditioning. You always have to keep yourself in enough condition that you will be ready for harder physical activity (in training camp). It’s nothing new, nothing old that I’m doing, so I’ve been doing this for all of my career. So you’ve got to keep working, because that’s our life.”



Aside from playing basketball daily, Stojakovic has been active playing other sports, including tennis and ping pong. “It’s always good to hit the ball, to clear up your mind,” he chuckled.



Many fans as well as experts have stated that Stojakovic could truly elevate his performance by developing a low-post game to complement his deadly outside shooting touch. The two-time NBA all-star addressed that issue.



“It is important, but it’s also important how the team is going to use you,” he said. “Are they going to use you that way? Because our style of basketball doesn’t use me that way. But I’m always trying to add something to my game. You have to get better.”



Stojakovic recently decided that he would not play on the Serbian national team in this year’s European basketball championships. Several subsequent media reports have quoted Stojakovic as saying that he was “tired” as the reason for not suiting up for his home country in September. The 6’-10” forward said there was more to the decision.



“I was meaning to play, but then I changed my mind, because of the two or three injuries, to the hamstring, groin, and my back that sidelined me for a little bit (last season). So I just want to be fit for the training camp, and rest a little bit, spend a little time with my family. I’ve played for the national team in 5 of the last 6 years.”



Stojakovic missed 16 games due to injuries last season, and he also suffered with plantar fasciitis several seasons ago. “That was three years ago,” he said. “Luckily, it’s gone. It’s something that nobody can help, not even doctors. Only time can heal that. But it’s gone.”





With last season’s departures of Divac, Chris Webber, and Doug Christie, much has been said about who is or should be the Kings’ new leader on the floor. Stojakovic had strong words to offer on this subject.



“Everybody’s screaming in the newspapers, ‘who is the leader?’ The most important thing is to be a team and for each of us to understand our roles, and not to do anything else. And to know what you’re doing that’s going to make the team better. When you step on the court, you know what to do, and that should be decided by the coaches.”



And Stojakovic knows where he fits in to the Kings’ game plan. “My role is like last year’s. I’m the type of guy, when I step on the court, I’m a scorer, and that’s my game. The thing is I need to add to my game, so I need to improve my rebounding, which I did the last couple of years, and passing skills and dribbling.”



Defense is clearly another area where the Kings need significant improvement, since the team seemed to have lost a lot defensively when Christie was traded last January. Stojakovic agreed.



“Doug was a guy that, when he was playing defense, we would feed off him. But in order to do something bigger, everybody has to play defense, the whole team. And you can’t work on defense when you have two guys in the starting five that are hurt and new guys. I hope this year that we’ll get ready, and we’ll see what’s going to happen.”



Stojakovic believes that the Kings still have the core of a contender, and October’s training camp will pull it all together. “I think we are a pretty solid team,” he said confidently. “We still had 50 wins last season, besides having trades, losing Vlade, and injuries. We had 50 wins. We needed more time playing together which we didn’t have. We just need more time and hopefully stay healthy during the year.”
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cont.

At the beginning of last season, reports ran rampant that Stojakovic was not happy here, and it soon became known that the star forward requested a trade. He cleared up the record about what really transpired.



“You know, I was always happy. The trade was a request. That wasn’t a demand. I had thought that a change would make a difference in this team. We just couldn’t make that step (an NBA title). That’s why I requested to be the one (to be traded). Get someone to fill my spot and come in and do a better job than I do and make it better.”



“After the couple of conversations I had with the organization, I was nothing but professional. I did not mention it throughout the year. So I’m here. I have one more year left on my contract (Stojakovic has a player option for 2006-07), and I feel like this is my home. This is the only team that I have played for in the NBA. My family likes it here.”



Stojakovic will almost certainly opt out of his existing contract after this season in pursuit of a bigger paycheck and a long-term deal. If he does opt out, as expected, he says that the Kings are in the driver’s seat to re-sign him.



“I can’t get into what’s going to happen in eight months. I can only tell you that we had some great times, and we also had some disappointments. But we always felt good about it. I never was frustrated to leave. But in eight months, who knows? It’s a long time. The Kings are going to have the first priority to do it, and if everything goes well, I would like to do that. Stay here and finish my career.”



But with the revolving door that has been the Kings’ roster this past year, Stojakovic is pragmatic about the realities of life in the NBA.



“You never know in this business. You feel safe. You feel like you can stay and call it home, but you might be gone the next day. So we (the players) have to understand that. I like it here, and I really enjoy playing here, because we’ve got great fans. People in this community really support us. And not only on the court, they really support our actions off the court, like our charities, and whatever we do. They’ve been nice to all of us and our families. So it’s a great environment.”



“But if nobody’s mentioning your name (in a trade), that’s more dangerous,” he laughed.



Stojakovic took a brief trip down memory lane to reflect on his greatest moment as an NBA player and a King. “I think there were a lot of good moments, but I think my first year,” Stojakovic said. “I didn’t play that much, but the excitement that we brought in the 98-99 lockout season when we first got into the playoffs and we played in the first round against Utah. We lost that, but it was a great feeling. People were really into it. They appreciated what we did.”



“Expectations, they rise over the course of the years, and that’s normal. As you win, they get higher. So each year was different for us. But that first year for me competing in the NBA was exciting. It was a new team, and we were making something happen for this city.”



With a healthy Stojakovic returning alongside Mike Bibby, Brad Miller, and some new, young talent, the 7-year veteran believes that his team will once again make something happen for its fans.
Hmm, some rather interesting answers.
 
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thesanityannex

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Thanks for posting this. I liked how he was not worried about "who" was the leader, and more concerned with their working together as a TEAM. Well theres one positive comment, time for the haters to tear this piece apart.
 
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thesanityannex

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I'm not saying strong leadership isn't needed, I just think the leadership should come more from the coach than anyone else. To me, team unity is more important than "who" is the "team leader". Leaders are born, someone will step up this year on their own. The fans and media can't choose who will be the leader.
 
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Great scoop KG!

I can't wait to see what happens when the article is edited ;).

I think Pedja was pretty honest there, and while there is lot of fluff on his part, he actually said some interesting things:

- He deflected a question about post-up game. He's not going to work on it or at least focus on it as it is not his role on the team. Instead he would like to improve rebounding, passing and dribbling.

- Leadership: He pretty much stated that players should do their job according to their roles and let the coaches lead. How very former-Yugoslavian of him. That's how basketball teams functioned in old Socialist Yugoslavia when coaches were Gods and players just did their thing, never questioning the coaches or else... But even then, there were field marshals, on the court leaders who would make sure that coaches rules and plans were enforced.

- As a Kings fan you have to be happy with his decision not to join NT this year. We just can't afford any more 'I'-s. You know, the unmentionable thing.

- Two hours a day for workouts? That's a very good maintenance plan. Stay in shape and keep your skills sharp. So, any improvement will come from pre-season training camp - if any.

He just sounds too reasonable and too rational. He clearly is not a psycho that will ever explode and expand his game.

I think it is safe to say that we know where we stand with this guy. What you see is what you get. He is very consistent and reliable, both in things that he is good at and in things that he sucks at.

My prediction for Pedja's stats in 2005/06:

PPG 21.5-22.5
RPG 5.2-5.5
APG 1.9-2.5 (this is an area where he could improve significantly with little more effort)
BPG - same as before, of course.
 
#9
I think Stojakovic is doing fine. I disagree with his assertion that everybody should just fill their role and not do anything else, and I also disagree that he (or Miller) should not work on a post game because that's not how the team uses him. Whether that is his decision or per Adelman's instructions, in my opinion it is the wrong decision.

A team of guys filling their roles is not a true contender. A team without somebody to lead them off the court, or to take over (e.g. with a post game) when they need a bucket, is not a true contender. Instead it is a fun team to watch that wins a lot in the regular season and a little bit in the playoffs. I'll be satisfied if the Kings are that team, but it would be nice if they strived for something more.

I have no expectations for Stojakovic to be the guy that makes that difference, so I've got no problems with what he said. I'll be happy if he just continues to fill his role and hope that we can find or build somebody else to lead the Kings to contending status again.
 
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Rowdyone said:
So he won't develop a post up game because the team doesn't use him that way?
He was quoted saying he would in the sacbee article about him. But he said in this one he is still going to add to his game because you need to. I do like his comments on continuing to improve his rebounding, passing, and dribbling (he showed a few flashes of creating his own shot, and being successful in the playoffs).
 
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I can't speak to what he said to the Bee reporter, but I heard the taped transcript of what he said to THIS reporter and can verify that what he said is exactly what was written.
 
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Thanks for posting this insight Kinsgurl.

Im sure that to some fans Peja's comments are just lip service, but like Uolj says im not expecting Peja to be the stand-out player who elevates us to unparalleled success. Though i do think he can prove to be superb at the job he does for the Kings.

I just want him to fulfill his role (sharpshooter) on the team to the best of his ability and show some desire to back up his rhetoric that Sacramento is somewhere he wants to play and is happy playing.

I was encouraged by the majority of what was said in this interview and whilst i dont think it will change the views of those fans in the love Peja / hate Peja camps.

Of course, Peja doesnt know what the Kings roster will look like come November so it doesnt surprise me that he talks about the benefits of a healthy team and one more familiar with each others game. - thats all he can say to give the fans some optimism.

As for developing / not developing a low post game, i say let him do what he's good at, shooting from outside. If the Kings want to try to dominate teams by taking the ball to the hoop then get someone in with a proven track record in that discipline, we shouldnt try to change his game, just help him accentuate his existing skillset.
 
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uolj said:
I think Stojakovic is doing fine. I disagree with his assertion that everybody should just fill their role and not do anything else, and I also disagree that he (or Miller) should not work on a post game because that's not how the team uses him. Whether that is his decision or per Adelman's instructions, in my opinion it is the wrong decision.

A team of guys filling their roles is not a true contender. A team without somebody to lead them off the court, or to take over (e.g. with a post game) when they need a bucket, is not a true contender. Instead it is a fun team to watch that wins a lot in the regular season and a little bit in the playoffs. I'll be satisfied if the Kings are that team, but it would be nice if they strived for something more.

I have no expectations for Stojakovic to be the guy that makes that difference, so I've got no problems with what he said. I'll be happy if he just continues to fill his role and hope that we can find or build somebody else to lead the Kings to contending status again.
Well put. Pedja is dreaming with the whole "play your role" thing. Maybe if hsi coach was Brown or Skiles, but not with Adelman's liberal approach. Pedja did play for Skiles and Pesic (ex-Serbian NT coach) who are disciplinarians and he won championships with both, so I will give him that, but he must be able to realise it is an exception rather then the rule.

There is something very stubborn and distinctly "Old School" about Pedja in this interview. I can understand it, and I can even like it from afar, but I don't agree with it.
 
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Londonking said:
As for developing / not developing a low post game, i say let him do what he's good at, shooting from outside. If the Kings want to try to dominate teams by taking the ball to the hoop then get someone in with a proven track record in that discipline, we shouldnt try to change his game, just help him accentuate his existing skillset.
Excellent point, expecting Pedja or Brad to develop inside game after years of not even attempting to get to the inside as opposed to drafting/signing/trading for that particular team need would be a huge gamble to say the least. Fools golds as Brick would say.
 

Bricklayer

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bozzwell said:
Great scoop KG!

I can't wait to see what happens when the article is edited ;).

I think Pedja was pretty honest there, and while there is lot of fluff on his part, he actually said some interesting things:

- He deflected a question about post-up game. He's not going to work on it or at least focus on it as it is not his role on the team. Instead he would like to improve rebounding, passing and dribbling.

- Leadership: He pretty much stated that players should do their job according to their roles and let the coaches lead. How very former-Yugoslavian of him. That's how basketball teams functioned in old Socialist Yugoslavia when coaches were Gods and players just did their thing, never questioning the coaches or else... But even then, there were field marshals, on the court leaders who would make sure that coaches rules and plans were enforced.

- As a Kings fan you have to be happy with his decision not to join NT this year. We just can't afford any more 'I'-s. You know, the unmentionable thing.

- Two hours a day for workouts? That's a very good maintenance plan. Stay in shape and keep your skills sharp. So, any improvement will come from pre-season training camp - if any.

He just sounds too reasonable and too rational. He clearly is not a psycho that will ever explode and expand his game.

I think it is safe to say that we know where we stand with this guy. What you see is what you get. He is very consistent and reliable, both in things that he is good at and in things that he sucks at.

My prediction for Pedja's stats in 2005/06:

PPG 21.5-22.5
RPG 5.2-5.5
APG 1.9-2.5 (this is an area where he could improve significantly with little more effort)
BPG - same as before, of course.
I pretty much agree with all you said here. At least he's not bothering to try to B.S. anybody. But I always find it interesting when people respond well to the very same lack of hunger that bothers me about him as a competitor. To some its "aw...isn't he a nice guy?" While to me the same comment reads "nice guy or not, he's neither driven nor hungry".

A couple of random points:

1) his comment about signing with the Kings confirms for me what I already believed -- we will have to pay him the max to resign him. We may or may not have the first crack at it. But if we don't put up the $$$ and some other team does, he's gone.

2) the leadership thing. Peja is not and has never been a leader. Ok. But here is the question that has bothered me ever since the alleged Peja/Webb rift: a) Is Peja simply not a leader, and because he's not a leader, poo poos the idea of leadership, and is simply uninterested in the position himself? That would be ok. In that case he is not a leader, but at least he just stays out of the fray and follows. or... b) does Peja actually DISLIKE leaders. Resent them. Not want to be one himself, but ALSO not want anyone else to be one (except his friend Vlade). That is then a problem. In that scenario Peja is not a leader, but he won't let anybody else be either. That doesn't work. Either way I find the leadership comments ironic and borderline self-serving given his long term association with Vlade and Bodiroga. Leaders are unimportant my ***.

In any case, this article seems to make clear that nothing much has changed. For better or worse Peja will return very much as Peja. I think best case scenario he could actually break 23pts. Rebounding could bounce back to 5+. Assists could be slightly elevated over his norm. Maybe even approach 3 a he has to make more happen. But he's going to miss those passers. So the numbers might be less.
 

SacTownKid

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Nice comments from Peja. Seems like he is confident and I like that.

And as for the leadership issues. What is Peja supposed to say? "I am the leader now! This is my team!" If he said that would be adding gas to the fire for all the Peja haters.
 
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Same old, same old. Peja will be Peja. He won't ever make a team himself, but he can still certainly be a good help. He is a great complementary player, one of the best around, but if we don't make some major moves before the next offseason, we should be pursuing guys down other avenues, like big men and multi-tooled guys who can play defense. Not Peja.
 

VF21

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It would be greatly appreciated if people quit with the "hater" comments for anyone who dares to criticize Peja.

I have problems with some of his answers. I am, however, past the point of arguing about what he meant, what he didn't mean, what he's going to do, what he's not going to do, etc.

Actions speak infinitely louder than words. I fully expect to see Peja come out this season and be the best player he possibly can be. If he isn't, then I'm going to criticize him, just as I criticized Vlade...who is one of my two all-time favorite players.

Now, about the article - kudos to 1kingzfan for asking the questions the FANS really wanted the answers to. It's nice to see someone in the media present the quotes and let us interpret them for ourselves.
 
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Thanx for the nice words, all. The opportunity to interview Vlade and Peja was certainly one of the highlights of my brief journalistic "side" career.

I've read some very good comments here today, but I really thought that there was lot more debatable "meat" in this piece than has come out so far.

You'll note I stayed neutral in the presentation of what Peja said, even though I have some strong opinions about what I heard, and I will stay neutral in this thread. However, I will read with interest what each of you has to say.
 
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bye_bye_bjax24

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Peja should take a hint from the BEST small defender in the league : Ron Artest. I read Artest, in addition to intense cardio, weight training, and skills training, regularly practices YOGA and PILATES.

Yoga and Pilates may sound wimpy and girly, but they do wonders for your flexibility and reaction time. I do yoga once a week, and I am quick like a cat!!! It prevents injury too. Remember Ron Artest....how he moves like a CAT and a SNAKE across the court, or over a scorers table for that matter....this is because he is SO limber and loosey goosey. The steals, the fighting through the picks, the playing of the passing lanes, the sneaking outside the paint to snag boards....all relate directly to a players flexibility and reaction time. Yoga allows for superior movement, like an olympic gymnast across a floor mat.

Peja looks tight as a drum at times the way he moves....always shying away from contact...he needs to strike a warrior pose with guidance of a experienced yoga instructor. 5 time a week for one hour per sesssion will do the trick. Note: Yoga is NOT just stretching out your muscles...its pushing to new limits of flexibility and strength....It would do wonders for his game.
 
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somehow i doubt peja will do yoga in addition to his (gasp) 2 hours a day. honestly, is 14 hours a week all he puts in to get paid millions per year? someone should tell these guys that the only other people who get that much time off work are teachers, and they don't exactly make athlete-level salaries. sports teams should start including offseason provisions in their contracts, like mandatory workouts, at least for younger players, and maybe even including things like yoga classes. (or "electives," to make players more conducive) it is absolutely unnacceptable that peja can get paid several mil a year and basically take the summer off, work not even close to part time. i guess he just doesn't take his job seriously. it seems that too oftern players forget that they are working a job, not just playing for fun and doing what they want.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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captain bill said:
somehow i doubt peja will do yoga in addition to his (gasp) 2 hours a day. honestly, is 14 hours a week all he puts in to get paid millions per year? someone should tell these guys that the only other people who get that much time off work are teachers, and they don't exactly make athlete-level salaries. sports teams should start including offseason provisions in their contracts, like mandatory workouts, at least for younger players, and maybe even including things like yoga classes. (or "electives," to make players more conducive) it is absolutely unnacceptable that peja can get paid several mil a year and basically take the summer off, work not even close to part time. i guess he just doesn't take his job seriously. it seems that too oftern players forget that they are working a job, not just playing for fun and doing what they want.
Mmm...maybe not so much. In the NBA, the solution is simple if a guy is not a particularly dedicated off season guy -- you just don't pay them as much, or give them a salary with smaller annual increases because you're not expecting as much improvement. Or you trade them. But in any case you can't negotiate hunger or drive with a player. "I will pay you X dollars to be hungry". They are or they aren't. And its up to a clear eyed front office to see that and figure out what that means.

From the player's perspective its just like any other job. In any job there are a certain number of people who will try to get paid the most they can while doing the absolute least they can. Then there are people who try to get paid the most they can and will give you a good honest effort in return. Not really driven to be the best ever at their job, but have some professional pride and try to give a legit effort. And then their are the hard drivers who are determined to reach the top, to be the best, and expect and demand to be paid as a mark of their achievement. Peja is certainly not the thrid type, but still closer to the second than the first. He has no particular drive, but he's a pro and will generally stay in shape and play his game. Just no comparison to the great ones who pass him up every year though.

P.S. Peja does NOT shy away from contact because of a lack of yoga of all things! :D
 
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Bricklayer said:
Mmm...maybe not so much. In the NBA, the solution is simple if a guy is not a particularly dedicated off season guy -- you just don't pay them as much, or give them a salary with smaller annual increases because you're not expecting as much improvement. Or you trade them. But in any case you can't negotiate hunger or drive with a player. "I will pay you X dollars to be hungry". They are or they aren't. And its up to a clear eyed front office to see that and figure out what that means.

From the player's perspective its just like any other job. In any job there are a certain number of people who will try to get paid the most they can while doing the absolute least they can. Then there are people who try to get paid the most they can and will give you a good honest effort in return. Not really driven to be the best ever at their job, but have some professional pride and try to give a legit effort. And then their are the hard drivers who are determined to reach the top, to be the best, and expect and demand to be paid as a mark of their achievement. Peja is certainly not the thrid type, but still closer to the second than the first. He has no particular drive, but he's a pro and will generally stay in shape and play his game. Just no comparison to the great ones who pass him up every year though.

P.S. Peja does NOT shy away from contact because of a lack of yoga of all things! :D
I'm sorry, I just can't understand saying that it should be treated like any other job, or that players need to work for themselves. In an amateur league, or a pick up game, it's up to the individual to decide to compete. But in the NBA, players are getting paid MILLIONS to put the best possible product on the court, and fans, who actually work hard year round, shell out lots of money to see that product. It's just disgusting to me that players are allowed to sit on their asses all offseason and still get massive amounts of money. Maybe they won't be the top player in the league, but they can still get more money than most people can ever hope to be paid. I say make them work year round, and the true competitors will just step it up another level and play with more heart all year long.
 
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Brickie just said, "The leadership thing. Peja is not and has never been a leader. Ok. But here is the question that has bothered me ever since the alleged Peja/Webb rift: a) Is Peja simply not a leader, and because he's not a leader, poo poos the idea of leadership, and is simply uninterested in the position himself? That would be ok. In that case he is not a leader, but at least he just stays out of the fray and follows. or... b) does Peja actually DISLIKE leaders. Resent them. Not want to be one himself, but ALSO not want anyone else to be one (except his friend Vlade). That is then a problem. In that scenario Peja is not a leader, but he won't let anybody else be either. That doesn't work. Either way I find the leadership comments ironic and borderline self-serving given his long term association with Vlade and Bodiroga. Leaders are unimportant my ***."

Excellent observation.

I agree that Peja is not a natural leader. I don't think he really hates "natural leaders" like Vlade, Magic, and Jordan. Instead, I think he has difficulty suffering vocal team mates that may themselves be incapable of sustained leadership and thoughtful positive manipulation of team mates. I suspect that Peja has a low tollerance for arrogant BS. He may not be a leader himself, but I think he knows when when he sees one.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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quick dog said:
Brickie just said, "The leadership thing. Peja is not and has never been a leader. Ok. But here is the question that has bothered me ever since the alleged Peja/Webb rift: a) Is Peja simply not a leader, and because he's not a leader, poo poos the idea of leadership, and is simply uninterested in the position himself? That would be ok. In that case he is not a leader, but at least he just stays out of the fray and follows. or... b) does Peja actually DISLIKE leaders. Resent them. Not want to be one himself, but ALSO not want anyone else to be one (except his friend Vlade). That is then a problem. In that scenario Peja is not a leader, but he won't let anybody else be either. That doesn't work. Either way I find the leadership comments ironic and borderline self-serving given his long term association with Vlade and Bodiroga. Leaders are unimportant my ***."

Excellent observation.

I agree that Peja is not a natural leader. I don't think he really hates "natural leaders" like Vlade, Magic, and Jordan. Instead, I think he has difficulty suffering vocal team mates that may themselves be incapable of sustained leadership and thoughtful positive manipulation of team mates. I suspect that Peja has a low tollerance for arrogant BS. He may not be a leader himself, but I think he knows when when he sees one.
Unfortunately I think its just as likely the only one he sees is his friend, and that's probably because he babied him and treated him with kid mittens. IMHO you either help lead, or you get the **** out of the way and let somebody else do it. And either way when competing at the highest levels I am fundamentlaly unimpressed with somebody wearing a "Brusies easily" sticker.
 
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piksi

Hall of Famer
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bye_bye_bjax24 said:
Peja should take a hint from the BEST small defender in the league : Ron Artest.

It would be awsom if he did. Just imagine Pedja fighting the Laker fans - getting suspended for a year and then work on his rap album. :rolleyes:
 
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Peja= Basketball's Manny Ramirez. . .just an absolute goofball. Does Peja even know that they keep score? Why would the Kings use him in the post BEFORE he develops a post game? I mean, seriously. I have always wondered how bright Peja is, and this just seals the deal. As outraged as people get about American kids skipping school, some of these Euro cats could have used an extra year or two of high school instead of turning pro at 15.

I also think Brick is correct on the leadership thing. The only leader Peja will ever acknowledge is Vlade. And I am thouroughly convinced that Vlade was behind the trade request, and was pouring "venom" in Peja's ear all last year until the Webber trade. Honestly, I think Vlade sabotaged our team.

His two hours a day is garbage. Most high school kids work on their games more than that in the summer. This man is not worth the max, not even close. His "workout" (weights, plyos, running) should be about two hours a day. . .then comes the skills work. I'm not that outraged, cause it's Peja, but a max player works out HARD in the summers.
 
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Venom said:
. As outraged as people get about American kids skipping school, some of these Euro cats could have used an extra year or two of high school instead of turning pro at 15.
This just made me laugh. Since when have American kids been considered so smart? We have the most illiterate people in the world. Off topic, I know.