Peja and Bird

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KiNgMyC

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I really hate to see Peja go, but it's a done deal. I wish him all the luck in the world. Aside from that, my co-worker and I was discussing about how Peja will adapt in Indiana. I think he'll improve dramatically because now he will be working with the legendary Larry Bird. During Peja's MVP year a few seasons back, Peja was compared to Bird. Do you guys think Bird will have a huge impact on Peja?
 
KiNgMyC said:
I really hate to see Peja go, but it's a done deal. I wish him all the luck in the world. Aside from that, my co-worker and I was discussing about how Peja will adapt in Indiana. I think he'll improve dramatically because now he will be working with the legendary Larry Bird. During Peja's MVP year a few seasons back, Peja was compared to Bird. Do you guys think Bird will have a huge impact on Peja?
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No. Unless Bird is giving heart transplants now.
 
I do think that Bird will inspire Peja to improve his game and improve his once lethal shot. I agree that he will likely never have the heart or toughness so many sought in him but I look to see him have a career year next year as long as he remains healthy. I have a feeling he will really catch fire.
 
Well, the Pacers are really good at coddling players, and supposedly that's what Peja needs. We'll see what happens.


And you know as long as he can hit the three, most Pacer fans will love him and probably never boo him. The long ball is almost sacred in Indiana :p
 
Will Bird make Peja better? Absolutely. I just keep thinking how this trade isn't as one sided as everyone thinks it is.
 
KiNgMyC said:
I was thinking more of how Bird can help Peja then comparing the two.
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In that case...

I believe that just as Artest needed a fresh start, Peja needed one as well. Will Bird be able to instill his ferociousness? Will he inspire Peja to dominate the offensive end with passing as well as shooting off screens?

I think not, but Peja might have been a little too comfortable in Sacramento, and the reminder that his career is linked to his performance might light a bit of a fire under him. I would expect Peja's performance to rise temporarily, but I would attribute it to the change of surroundings and not to any motivational speeches from Bird.

At the end of the day, Peja's going to be the same guy, just in a different situation.
 
SacTownKid said:
Will Bird make Peja better? Absolutely. I just keep thinking how this trade isn't as one sided as everyone thinks it is.
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same here. in fact, if peja's lower back gets healed, i will say that pacers are getting something for nothing. i am pretty sure bird will have a lot to talk about. it is also funny that bird suffered from lower back problems towards the end of his days.

by the way, i am sick and tired of hearing the same old thing. heart is an overrated word around here. ditto for toughness. if you seriously played basketball, you would know that without the so called toughness you would not make it through your 14th birthday. most people here want wackos who think that what matters the most in life is basketball; these people are called "winners". well, i call them clueless.
 
"Will Bird make Peja better? Absolutely. I just keep thinking how this trade isn't as one sided as everyone thinks it is."

I think it's a great trade for Sacramento IF AND ONLY IF Artest behaves. And what's w/ the Peja / Bird comparisons? Though Peja is an incredible shooter, to compare his overall talent and skill level to Bird is absurd.
 
mavsman said:
"Will Bird make Peja better? Absolutely. I just keep thinking how this trade isn't as one sided as everyone thinks it is."

I think it's a great trade for Sacramento IF AND ONLY IF Artest behaves. And what's w/ the Peja / Bird comparisons? Though Peja is an incredible shooter, to compare his overall talent and skill level to Bird is absurd.
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exactly the only similarity both bird and peja have is their great shooting especially from beyond the arc and the fact that they are nearly or the same height...

bird is a hall of famer...

peja is a second teir player but still a great player none the less...

one thing that sets the two a part is that bird is a winner and warrior and his basketrball IQ was waayyyyyy up there...

but who knows mabye bird will inspire peja to become somewhat like him during his career

but comparing peja to bird is something which should not be done... at least for now... and most likely never as peja is great player in his own ways which is his pure shooting stroke from nearly out to 30' as well as his great offensive awareness..
 
It will be interesting to see how Peja's first 2 months go. I was excited to see him play as a 2nd option to JO, but it looks like JO will be out for 8 weeks with similar injury Bonzi has right now.

As to Peja/Bird, Peja will never be like LB. I do remember few years back LB making some criticising comments about Peja, but if anyone can help him add an extra dimension (if that's possible) to his game than LB is the right guy to do it.
 
I say to bring Reggie Miller outta retirement and have him show Peja a thing or two ... ;)

like ...

1- hitting a CLUTCH or GAME WINNING SHOT :D
2- how to lose your defender - if not on the first pick, maybe the 2nd - 3rd or 4th :D

I say the above with a "sense of humor" ... Peja's has been my fav player since coming into the NBA ... I've always wanted him to be more CLUTCH

:cool:
 
Bird can help Peja if he challenges him. Bird played the same position, was great at it and a great competitor. He's kind of like Petrie in some ways, so Peja should feel at ease with the relationship from the get-go. I don't feel Peja has ever really been challenged. Maybe you want to say Webber did it after the '04 playoffs, but he didn't name names or say it to Peja's face so that's not much of a challenge to me.
 
Yup, I think the single best influence on Pedja's game could be what Lary Legand has to teach. Sure he can't teach heart, but he can inspire. Also folks never forget how good bird was in his short streach as a coach. This is Pedja's BEST opertunity. Fans of Pedja should be happy and even those of us who were critical have to say this is an opertuintiy to "save" Pedja.
 
HndsmCelt said:
Yup, I think the single best influence on Pedja's game could be what Lary Legand has to teach. Sure he can't teach heart, but he can inspire. Also folks never forget how good bird was in his short streach as a coach. This is Pedja's BEST opertunity. Fans of Pedja should be happy and even those of us who were critical have to say this is an opertuintiy to "save" Pedja.
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Nicely said right there, Peja probably won't play at that type of level Bird did, but he will be inspired to put that extra effort.
 
actually espn poll shows that 60% of the people agree that Indiana gets the better end of the deal of this trade
 
SK23 said:
actually espn poll shows that 60% of the people agree that Indiana gets the better end of the deal of this trade
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why not wait until they actually play a game or two?
 
SK23 said:
actually espn poll shows that 60% of the people agree that Indiana gets the better end of the deal of this trade
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Well Duh! They give up a guy that they can't paly and get one they can... That makes a HUGE improvement right there. Kings give up a top shooter and gain a guy that COULD potnetially tear the team apart... the jurry is still out on that one. BUT The Kings give up an experiitng contract that was likely to walk at the end of the season and under-performing on a team that is lottery bound (with talent) and get back a guy that COULD single handedly inspire defense, put fear in oponents (when was the last time anyone could say that a member of the Kings actually scared an oponent?) and finelly the addetion of Artest COULD also lead to reinvgorated offense that is never afraid to atack the hoop, and will not settle for jumpers. Worth the risk in my book, but I have no illisions about those risks.:cool:
 
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