Oh my god! GP wants to be a King?

CruzDude

CruzDude

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Arrrggghhhhhh. Gary Payton on "The Best Damn Sports Show Period" when asked where he wanted to go next year: "I want to go back to the West Coast, but Boston is the number one option right now. Boston, Sacramento and Phoenix". :eek:

Why do I not see that working..... Or do I. GP and BJax off the bench? OMG!
 
Somehow, I don't think what he wants is going to affect the most important GP around here...

At this point, I don't really have a strong opinion because there are too many other factors to consider before we start talking about another aging veteran...
 
CruzDude said:
Arrrggghhhhhh. Gary Payton on "The Best Damn Sports Show Period" when asked where he wanted to go next year: "I want to go back to the West Coast, but Boston is the number one option right now. Boston, Sacramento and Phoenix". :eek:

Why do I not see that working..... Or do I. GP and BJax off the bench? OMG!
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Yeah, he said the same thing this past season back before the trade deadline. Don't know what we'd do with him with the roster as its currently configured. Five years ago I had the idea in my head that we could bring in Gary and he'd make a great OG for us (this was when he was beginning to lose his PG quickness, but was still a premiere scorer). But right now, at his age, he'd just be a backup. Not sure if he can deal with that or not. And from our perspective, its again one of those things where why would we pikc up a guy that old unless we somehow put together a contending team?

Now Phoenix, on the other hand, seemed like a serious contender last season as they needed a Nash backup and were making their big push. And they still might be this upcoming season if they are still going to go big into the "win now" philosophy (which might be a good idea with Nash only having a few more top yeas left in him).
 
I think Payton may be unhappy to find himself with few suitors. Boston is in a youth movement and I doubt they would sign him to a multi-year deal. In fact, I expect the Celtics to let him (and Antoine Walker) walk away without a serious offer.

The Suns are a possibility, but for some reason I just don't see it. Maybe I can't envision Payton running a fastbreak offense at this point in his career.

The Kings have FAR more pressing needs than a third string PG. And I firmly believe that is what Payton would be at this point. If Bobby Jackson is healthy, he brings a lot more to the team than Payton can.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this could be a long and disappointing summer for GP.

Speaking of disappointing, it must have been a bad last couple months for Shawn Bradley, since he is reportedly retiring this summer.
 
I dont mind him coming to Sac. But I agree with funky, there are far more pressing needs than the PG spot. Petrie probably would have to draw up a BIG plan if he were to sign GP. BJax has had some serious injuries and is injury prone. This team needs a vet somewhere. Petrie has a lot of homework to do.
 
If he's willing to come for the vet minimum in a backup role then I am all for it. He and Bobby would be a nice tandem off the bench and would be pretty fun to watch.
 
One other thing.....Payton is really a good post up guard as well and we are seriously lacking in that department. Post him up with smaller point guards and he can hit cutters as well as Peja coming off screens.
 
NoBonus said:
Anyone who wants to be a King is cool with me.
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Exactly. Well, not anyone, but it's nice to know players out there still want to come play for Sacramento. I don't know exactly how he'd fit in the rotation, but I'm not all that opposed to it unless he wants big $$.
 
sloter said:
Don't forget that Payton can still defend a lot better than Bibby.
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So can I. ;) But at this point though, the gap is not what it once was. Not even sure I'd call him above average defensively at this point. And the offensive game is a bit problematic as he's an on the ball PG who needs to have the ball a high percentage of the time to run things and be effective. Unless we change the offense, that makes him only a marginally better fit here than he was in the triangle for Phil. Much better fit for a PG-centric fast-break oriented team like Phoenix I think.
 
LPKingsFan said:
Exactly. Well, not anyone, but it's nice to know players out there still want to come play for Sacramento. I don't know exactly how he'd fit in the rotation, but I'm not all that opposed to it unless he wants big $$.
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I feel like, with the "Cat", Mo Evans, and D-Song possibly gone next year, the more talent the Kings can pick up in free agency the better... they could always trade him if it doesn't work out. I would hate to see the Kings spend tons of $$ to get GP and I cannot imagine they would, but stranger things have happend (see Ostertag, Greg). However, if we trade Bibby or BJax, Payton would be a good pick up.
 
My thought is there are a lot of veterans out there in the free agency pool who are younger, quicker, and a better fit for the Kings. Aging veterans approaching the twilight of their career aren't IMHO the direction I want to see the Kings take.
 
VF21 said:
My thought is there are a lot of veterans out there in the free agency pool who are younger, quicker, and a better fit for the Kings. Aging veterans approaching the twilight of their career aren't IMHO the direction I want to see the Kings take.
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Who does want a bunch of late-career guys? But, in a rebuilding period, they may be required to get to the playoffs or give the team some consistency. Hopefully, IF GP is picked up for any reason or price it will be at the minimum and he will be used like Eddie House. Speaking of Eddie House, will he be back?
 
NoBonus said:
Who does want a bunch of late-career guys?
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Maybe nobody... the point is there are other options.

But, in a rebuilding period, they may be required to get to the playoffs or give the team some consistency.
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If you're really rebuilding, it's not about limping into the playoffs. It's about re-establishing a core of players to take you into the next "generation" - teamwise.

Hopefully, IF GP is picked up for any reason or price it will be at the minimum and he will be used like Eddie House.
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If we get Payton and only use him like Eddie House, he'll be a bigger loose cannon than Artest is accused of being. He would not settle for being that deep on the bench...

Speaking of Eddie House, will he be back?
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He was only signed for the remainder of last season because of Bobby's injury. I'd like to see House come back, simply because he showed that he could fit into the Princeton offense, he got better as time progressed with the Kings, and he works well with Bibby and Bobby.
 
Payton wouldn't fit for us. He needs the ball to contribute. We already have an established PG core in Bibby and Bobby. I can't see us putting him to any use unless we aren't able to resign Evans. Maybe Payton could be a swing guard off the bench if Evans isn't around. Would have to be cheap though, cheaper then what Evans is going to get, which I gather isn't much. Payton would work out in Phoenix. They need more veterans off the bench and Payton, even at this point in his career is still better then Barbosa.
 
I'd like Payton on the Kings. I could then sit behind the bench (which he wouldn't leave) and boo him the whole game.
 
sloter said:
Don't forget that Payton can still defend a lot better than Bibby.
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So can my computer chair (has 3 wheels), my lawnmover (4 wheels). On the other hand my trash can has only 2 wheels and is pretty much even.

My point - it is still not a reason to get Payton unless RA is ready to give Mike a "JWill treatment." Since that is not happening because og the value that Bibby has in other areas - why spend money ?
 
Interesting that his alternatives to Boston (where he's the starter at PG) are Sacramento and Phoenix, home to 2 of the best PG in the NBA. Does this mean Gary is conceited enough to think he'd beat out Bibby or Nash for minutes, or is this more about preferring how the Kings and Suns play offensively, despite being a backup?
 
PixelPusher said:
Interesting that his alternatives to Boston (where he's the starter at PG) are Sacramento and Phoenix, home to 2 of the best PG in the NBA. Does this mean Gary is conceited enough to think he'd beat out Bibby or Nash for minutes, or is this more about preferring how the Kings and Suns play offensively, despite being a backup?
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I think more than anything he realizes his time has come as a washed up has been.
 
PixelPusher said:
Does this mean Gary is conceited enough to think he'd beat out Bibby or Nash for minutes...?
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That'd be my guess. I just don't think The Glove got the memo changing him to The Mitten...
 
Past Gary Payton=The Glove
Present Gary Payton=The Hand Sock Puppet
 
PixelPusher said:
Interesting that his alternatives to Boston (where he's the starter at PG) are Sacramento and Phoenix, home to 2 of the best PG in the NBA. Does this mean Gary is conceited enough to think he'd beat out Bibby or Nash for minutes, or is this more about preferring how the Kings and Suns play offensively, despite being a backup?
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Its also that he wants to return to Northern California (his home) and has for some time. So any good team in the region he's interested in returning to. Portland is out, as are the Clippers, and the Lakers (obviously). So kind of leaves us and the Suns. Golden State may be gettign good and is the hometown team, but maybe he figures they are too far away or too set with Baron and Fisher.
 
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JB_kings said:
I would go to the Warriors if I was GP. Baron Davis hasn't stayed healthy since... well, never.
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thats what i was thinking but what about fisher? he as that contract.. maybe he could be traded back to the lakers... since phil is back...
 
i'll pass on the
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