Official! Joerger in as Kings head coach

So how did Vlade do on the hire?


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I was actually shocked - but decided to contain it to myself - that Memphis didn't not fire Joerger and instead extract picks from us. But I'm guessing we don't have much to give so they figure why bother? But something similar to Rivers and the Celtics.
I figure it went down like this. (Assumptions: Joerger wanted to leave Memphis, and Memphis wanted him gone too... and Vlade knew it)

1. (Mem) "Vlade, we want some picks as compensation for giving you our awesome coach."
2. (Vlade) "I have no picks for you, I can trade you carton of cigarette, nothing more."
2b. (Vlade) "I hear you no like him anyways. No matter, we'll just hire Del Negro."
3. (Mem) "Uncle! We'll fire him tomorrow."
4. (Vlade) "I'll still send you cigarette for your troubles"
(In the background)
5. (Vlade) "Peja! Disco music louder please!"
 
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What is so fat about DeMarcus?? I don't know what Aileen is talking about.


Maybe she believes, that professional athletes should have a body fat percantage of below 10%. I'm not a professional trainer or nutrition expert, but I know how difficult it is to maintain a very low body fat percentage and how stressful it is for the body and the mind. Basketball is a sport where the body needs to get through a 82 game long grind. It's not a sport with scheduled short events (track running) or with weigh ins (powerlifting), where you train to peak at a certain date. And unlike in football (scoccer) a little bit of extra weight to throw around can actually be beneficial in basketball especially for big man that want to carve out space in the paint.
This whole “debate“ about Cousins lack of shape is somewhat shallow and biased from my point of view.
He was able to play in an uptempo system while dealing with a lingering foot injury , but a sports writer still questions his work ethic, comitment and shape all the time, while sitting behind her desk.
From a non local, european point of view it's stunning how a professional writer just can't get out of their personal agenda and feud with the biggest sports star of your town.
 
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Maybe she believes, that professional athletes should have a body fat percantage of below 10%. I'm not a professional trainer or nutrition expert, but I know how difficult it is to maintain a very low body fat percentage and how stressful it is for the body and the mind. Basketball is a sport where the body needs to get through a 82 game long grind. It's not a sport with scheduled short events (track running) or with weigh ins (powerlifting), where you train to peak at a certain date. And unlike in football (scoccer) a little bit of extra weight to throw around can actually be beneficial in basketball especially for big man that want to carve out space in the paint.
This whole “debate“ about Cousins lack of shape is somewhat shallow and biased from my point of view.
He was able to play in an uptempo system while dealing with a lingering foot injury , but a sports writer still questions his work ethic, comitment and shape all the time, while sitting behind her desk.
From a non local, european point of view it's stunning how a professional writer just can't get out of their personal agenda and feud with the biggest sports star of your town.
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Excuse me, Ailene, your bias is showing again. I think, as Kings fans, we should demand better journalists. I won't post the link to her latest fantasy, but if you want to vomit or punch someone in the face you should check it out
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Excuse me, Ailene, your bias is showing again. I think, as Kings fans, we should demand better journalists. I won't post the link to her latest fantasy, but if you want to vomit or punch someone in the face you should check it out
Let me guess, because yesterday I almost wrote a mockup of what she was going to say, but again, time:

-- new sheriff in town, organization returning to sanity where the coach is allowed to coach, and the players say thankyou sir, may I have another
-- clear now Vlade setting up strong structure that does not need Cousins
-- all in or out
-- coach going to demand accountability, will not tolerate anymore laziness
-- can play at a pace slow enough for his out of shape center, but smart enough not to
-- coach and GM praise Kings of old, wil be no place for malcontent ball stopper
-- firing shots throughout a telling news conference
-- when Cousins petulantly rebels against this coach, which he will, he will be gone
 
Let me guess, because yesterday I almost wrote a mockup of what she was going to say, but again, time:

-- new sheriff in town, organization returning to sanity where the coach is allowed to coach, and the players say thankyou sir, may I have another
-- clear now Vlade setting up strong structure that does not need Cousins
-- all in or out
-- coach going to demand accountability, will not tolerate anymore laziness
-- can play at a pace slow enough for his out of shape center, but smart enough not to
-- coach and GM praise Kings of old, wil be no place for malcontent ball stopper
-- firing shots throughout a telling news conference
-- when Cousins petulantly rebels against this coach, which he will, he will be gone
Worse/stupider than you could guess.

She actually accused Vlade of abruptly caving to an arm-twisting by Vivek, and abandoning his deliberate search under Vivek's pressure to hire the most 'player friendly' candidate out there. Swear to God can't make this up.

Oh yeah, she mentioned that DeMarcus is fat too... of course.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Excuse me, Ailene, your bias is showing again. I think, as Kings fans, we should demand better journalists. I won't post the link to her latest fantasy, but if you want to vomit or punch someone in the face you should check it out

Having now glanced through it, it was actually tame by her standards. She got in the normal trite lines about out of shape, malcontent etc., but seemed almost pensive and concerned that Vlade passed up the opportunity to hire a hardass who would whip that Boogie into shape and make him like it. or maybe having lost Karl she was just unwilling to completely alienate Joerger on Day 1.
 
Worse/stupider than you could guess.

She actually accused Vlade of abruptly caving to an arm-twisting by Vivek, and abandoning his deliberate search under Vivek's pressure to hire the most 'player friendly' candidate out there. Swear to God can't make this up.

Oh yeah, she mentioned that DeMarcus is fat too... of course.
And one has to wonder why no one reads the Sac Bee anymore! :eek:
 
Let me guess, because yesterday I almost wrote a mockup of what she was going to say, but again, time:

-- new sheriff in town, organization returning to sanity where the coach is allowed to coach, and the players say thankyou sir, may I have another
-- clear now Vlade setting up strong structure that does not need Cousins
-- all in or out
-- coach going to demand accountability, will not tolerate anymore laziness
-- can play at a pace slow enough for his out of shape center, but smart enough not to
-- coach and GM praise Kings of old, wil be no place for malcontent ball stopper
-- firing shots throughout a telling news conference
-- when Cousins petulantly rebels against this coach, which he will, he will be gone
You are actually giving her too much credit. Her entire article would make even the national media scratch their heads.
 
You are actually giving her too much credit. Her entire article would make even the national media scratch their heads.
It's almost like her Editor tells her, "Okay, I know that the Kings did something GOOD today, BUT we need to sell newspapers and GOOD does not sell newspapers. Do your magic Aileen!!!"

Aileen: "I am two steps ahead of you, chief! You are going to love my next article!"

Editor: "Great Job, Aileen!"
 
She is a waste of space, a hack. It must eat away at her that everybody dismisses her before they even read the drivel that she writes. Honestly I wish there was an ignore function for the mere mention of her.
 
The "DeMarcus is fat" obsession is one of the weirdest things I've seen a journalist attach on to. She's welcome to her mostly wrong opinion, but I have no idea how she can continuously call him fat and out of shape the past 2 seasons if she's watched more than 15 minutes of Kings games
 
The Cousins will get fat angle was around him during his draft year, but had mostly died until Aileen brought it back. Probably comes a bit from Karl. Chuck brought it up too and got roasted for it.

There's a difference between being out of shape and being a naturally bigger guy. He will never be Anthony Davis lean or Dwight Howard lean. Doesn't mean he's out of shape. He doesn't take summers off, in other words.
 
DJ was on the Jim Rome show: http://www.nba.com/kings/blog/dave-joerger-appears-jim-rome-show

Says last few days have been a whirlwind of excitement, through the gamut of emotions, etc.
It all happened very fast.
Says he is a minor league guy, and he saw the passion in those communities and sees the same in Sacramento.
Rome is a friend of Musselman? Muss came up through the minors and smaller towns also?
Reiterated this was all Vlade's hire, strong front office now, etc.
Demarcus coming in from LA for the conference wasn't set up - he came in all on his own.
blah blah blah - a pretty boring interview actually.

A lot of the same stuff he said on The Drive this morning.
 
The Cousins will get fat angle was around him during his draft year, but had mostly died until Aileen brought it back. Probably comes a bit from Karl. Chuck brought it up too and got roasted for it.

There's a difference between being out of shape and being a naturally bigger guy. He will never be Anthony Davis lean or Dwight Howard lean. Doesn't mean he's out of shape. He doesn't take summers off, in other words.
She mentioned Cousins should lose 20 to 30 pounds during this offseason. For am athlete, that doesn't have much bodyfat to begin with this is a comical high number. Cousins losing that much weight would simply mean he would come into the season weak as ****.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
She mentioned Cousins should lose 20 to 30 pounds during this offseason. For am athlete, that doesn't have much bodyfat to begin with this is a comical high number. Cousins losing that much weight would simply mean he would come into the season weak as ****.
She is absurd. I presume she is picking 20-30 pounds as that would be a good weight for the average 6'10" guy. The problem is that Boogie is not average in his body structure. I have seen him jump in the air in happiness and he looks frightening in size and agility. GOOD!!!!
 
I figure it went down like this. (Assumptions: Joerger wanted to leave Memphis, and Memphis wanted him gone too... and Vlade knew it)

1. (Mem) "Vlade, we want some picks as compensation for giving you our awesome coach."
2. (Vlade) "I have no picks for you, I can trade you carton of cigarette, nothing more."
2b. (Vlade) "I hear you no like him anyways. No matter, we'll just hire Del Negro."
3. (Mem) "Uncle! We'll fire him tomorrow."
4. (Vlade) "I'll still send you cigarette for your troubles"
(In the background)
5. (Vlade) "Peja! Disco music louder please!"
The broken English is on point lol
 
She mentioned Cousins should lose 20 to 30 pounds during this offseason. For am athlete, that doesn't have much bodyfat to begin with this is a comical high number. Cousins losing that much weight would simply mean he would come into the season weak as ****.

30 lbs is crazy. But 10 lbs wouldn't hurt if Boogie wants to continue to use a lot of his dribble drive moves. He's had foot problems this season already and that is a killer for big men (ie Yao and recently Marc Gasol). 10lbs leaner will give him more stamina to finish games and puts a lot less stress on his feet and joints.
 

hrdboild

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What is so fat about DeMarcus?? I don't know what Aileen is talking about.
She's been banging that drum since before he was drafted. She's the one that asked about his body fat percentage when he was in town for his pre-draft workout. Didn't she ask him to lift up his shirt too?