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i for one, am not overreacting so please stop telling me to not overreact. i just wished we filled a more important need, such as the fact that we have nothing but tweeners at the 4 spot.
 
KingsFan93 said:
What's the difference between Quincy Douby & Eddie House?
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Quite possibly not much. We'll see. He's too small to play OG unless Geoff has become softer than I fear he has. So a complete tweener backup combo guard type. Can unquestionably score though. Maybe similar to the Maritn idea -- once a scorer always a scorer. In theory.

If this really was our answer to the Bonzi situation -- well that would be a sad joke. From Bonzi to Douby is like trading a pit bull for a chihuahua on your way to a dogfight.
 
Douby can play defense, can create his own shot, is long, quicker, more versatile offensively. House is just a spot-up shooter/screen shooter.

Stop overreacting and making ridiculous assumptions guys. Read up on him, and wait for things to play out with Bonzi. I expect he stays, and this isn't a factor in our main SG spot.

House, play defense? I have never seen him play any defense but get steals in pasisng lanes which anyone can do, and doesn't mean you're a good defender.
 
People need to calm down on the Douby/Bonzi thing. He's a backup 1/2 who can light it up and play some D. He's going to play the Bobby Jackson role, he's not a replacement for Bonzi. The two are not connected at all.
 
Kings113 said:
Douby can play defense, can create his own shot, is long, quicker, more versatile offensively. House is just a spot-up shooter/screen shooter.

Stop overreacting and making ridiculous assumptions guys. Read up on him, and wait for things to play out with Bonzi. I expect he stays, and this isn't a factor in our main SG spot.

House, play defense? I have never seen him play any defense but get steals in pasisng lanes which anyone can do, and doesn't mean you're a good defender.
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I watched Douby play all season. He is a middling defender. Able to make a stop when motivated, but not often motivated. And that's with college guards. In the pros he will struggle with either the jets at PG or the much bigger OGs. He's competitive -- not an entire loss. He'll compete and that's always a good thing. But he's small and a tweener + his entire rep is based on his scoring ability. Likes to dominate the ball too. Not a catch and shoot guy, but kind of the Iverson of Rutger's offense.

Its clearly yet another shot at the Bobby idea, but besides height there really is no PG in Douby right now. Sure the thought is that you take a guy who can play before you take one of the pure bred PGs in the draft who can't. We'll see.
 
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nbrans said:
People need to calm down on the Douby/Bonzi thing. He's a backup 1/2 who can light it up and play some D. He's going to play the Bobby Jackson role, he's not a replacement for Bonzi. The two are not connected at all.
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that's fine, but going into tonight everyone's been pretty sure that we needed one of two things: an athletic shotblocking big, or a back-up point who can run the offense. i just fail to see how douby fills that role, when it's been stated (at least in the reports) that he needs to work on his strength, ballhandling, and passing.


scoring off the bench is, in my opinion, a third priority after the other two, the other two that we failed to address tonight.
 
To me, Douby sounds like a junior Cuttino Mobley. Sure, he can try to play some defense and get some steals, but like Mobley, he'll get lit up as well. His ESPN video spoke of him as all offense which isn't too endearing either.

The bad part is, only one source I've read said he had any PG skills to speak of. ESPN is pretty dead set on the fact he'll have to play 2guard in the league.
 
Bricklayer said:
I watched Douby play all season. He is a middling defender. Able to make a stop when motivated, but not often motivated. And that's with college guards. In the pros he will struggle with either the jets at PG or the much bigger OGs. He's competitive -- not an entire loss. He'll compete. But he's small and a tweener + his entire rep is based on his scoring ability. Likes to dominate the ball too. Not a ctach and shhoot guy, but kind of the Iverson of Rutger's offense.
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I watched him play as well, and he's a competitor. He was their entire team, and with a reduced role he'll be able to focus more on his defense. His passing is kind of an unknown -- he didn't have anyone to pass to. He's got all the tools, I really like the pick. The backcourt is set, whether Bonzi stays or goes.

Bonzi stays (obviously the preferable situation):
PG: Bibby/Douby
SG: Bonzi/Martin
SF: Artest/Garcia

Bonzi goes:
PG: Bibby/Douby
SG: Martin/Garcia/Douby
SF: Artest/Garcia

Now Petrie can focus on the interior with trades and free agency.
 
Jerryaki said:
that's fine, but going into tonight everyone's been pretty sure that we needed one of two things: an athletic shotblocking big, or a back-up point who can run the offense. i just fail to see how douby fills that role, when it's been stated (at least in the reports) that he needs to work on his strength, ballhandling, and passing.


scoring off the bench is, in my opinion, a third priority after the other two, the other two that we failed to address tonight.
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Yes, need an athletic shotblocking big, but that can be addressed through trades or free agency.

I don't see why the team needs a pure point guard off the bench. Garcia fulfills that playmaking role. The bench truly struggled scoring last year. There would be games when the entire bench wouldn't score 10 points. Hopefully that's going to change.
 
With the way the game is called today, Douby has a lot of value. He looks like a Barbosa clone. Bonzi is gone though. With all the PGs on the board we took a SG. Douby has value, but not enough to necessitate taking him over guys like Lowry.

The Nets got two HUGE busts, and keeping together those two lackluster performers is a terrible idea.
 
Jerryaki said:
who's handling when bibby's out? garcia?
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Douby can handle the ball, the knock on him is just that he's not a passer (I'd say he's an unproven passer). But he can get the ball up the floor. He can dump it off to Garcia or SAR in the post or whatever. It depends on what type of offense Musselman is going to run, but I bet he and Petrie have that worked out.
 
nbrans said:
I watched him play as well, and he's a competitor. He was their entire team, and with a reduced role he'll be able to focus more on his defense. His passing is kind of an unknown -- he didn't have anyone to pass to. He's got all the tools, I really like the pick. The backcourt is set, whether Bonzi stays or goes.

Bonzi stays (obviously the preferable situation):
PG: Bibby/Douby
SG: Bonzi/Martin
SF: Artest/Garcia

Bonzi goes:
PG: Bibby/Douby
SG: Martin/Garcia/Douby
SF: Artest/Garcia

Now Petrie can focus on the interior with trades and free agency.
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He doesn't see the game remotely like a PG -- can't teach that. Sees it for himself. Only thing he can do as a "PG" will be to bring it up and dump it off to somebody. No ability to create for others though.
 
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