PurpleHaze
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Aaron Rodgers needs change of scenery. Or permanent job as Jeopardy host!
NFL 2021-2022 Season Thread
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Aaron Rodgers needs change of scenery. Or permanent job as Jeopardy host!
Kingz19
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Greg Papa was trying to think of something similar to Tartts drop. I immediately had Kyle Williams flashbacks. That couldn’t have been served up any better. Both cost the NFC championship. Though Williams was worse since that immediately lost the game and the Niners still could’ve closed out but it completely changed the game.
Niners should’ve won this game and I think they would’ve beat Cincy. However, They were also not that great of a team. Middle of the road QB and a crappy secondary.
Much better 49ers teams have had less of a clear path to a championship than this one did so it’s a little weird that after Mahomes was eliminated I thought we might actually get the bowl this season while also thinking the Niners were playing with house money. I
PLEASE find a top level cornerback for once . Our amazing fronts and pass rush going back to Harbaugh and 2 of the last 3 seasons have been wasted time and time again by average to terrible bend bend break secondary’s…and middle of the road quarterbacks.
Niners should’ve won this game and I think they would’ve beat Cincy. However, They were also not that great of a team. Middle of the road QB and a crappy secondary.
Much better 49ers teams have had less of a clear path to a championship than this one did so it’s a little weird that after Mahomes was eliminated I thought we might actually get the bowl this season while also thinking the Niners were playing with house money. I
PLEASE find a top level cornerback for once . Our amazing fronts and pass rush going back to Harbaugh and 2 of the last 3 seasons have been wasted time and time again by average to terrible bend bend break secondary’s…and middle of the road quarterbacks.
I mean we can blame Jimmy quite a bit for that 4 quarter (and should) but the right side of the O-line spent the last 2 games getting their ass kicked over and over and collapsing the pocket on Jimmy. Never thought we would miss McGlinchey so much in pass pro.
Address the right side of the O-line, grab CB depth and you run it back with the hope Trey can fully unlock these offensive weapons.
Address the right side of the O-line, grab CB depth and you run it back with the hope Trey can fully unlock these offensive weapons.
The CB honestly haven't played horrible for 2 months. They got significantly better over the course of the year after starting out pretty terrible. Of course it needs a talent upgrade. The entire defense has just been dominant though. Brunskill/Compton were far bigger issues imo.
We punted I think 4 times within our own 50. Ugh.
Tetsujin
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Yep. A lot of the secondary issues went away with Moseley getting healthy and Thomas developing into a solid corner rather than the Niners having to play Josh Norman every game.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Yeah honestly felt like Shanahan had too much faith in his defense all game. I get wanting to put them in a position to succeed but the Niners should have stepped on their necks when they had a chance.
kb02
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Niners have invested a first and second round pick on the right side: McGlinchey, who is avg at best, and Banks, who has been in the doghouse/injured all year. Need both to take a step next year.
Has Banks been hurt all year? I know he was in preseason, but I thought it was more he was just playing horrid and couldn't get on the field. My brother and i were talking about it; it's probably not a good thing if he can't beat Tom Compton for playing time.
SLAB
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kb02
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Think it was a combo of both. Last news about him was he needed to slim down. Dude was like 350 or something. We’ll see how looks after a year in the program, but drafting a guard that high and dude not playing one snap is screaming bust. In theory, if he slims down, he becomes the 6’5 road grader that they need on that right side.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
To be fair, irrationally playing bad vets over better young guys has been like the one consistent thing about this Niners season so who really knows? They started Josh Norman for most of the season and the dude was quite possibly the worst cornerback I’ve ever seen.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
Have you already forgotten about Brian Allen and Dre Kirkpatrick?!
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
There was that absolutely wild stretch where the Niners started a Kilpatrick/ Josh Norman cornerback lineup and people were somehow shocked we were 3-5.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
Rip the freakin’ band-aid off and trade him to the first bidder just so everyone can accept it and move on. Has a more mediocre man ever been as freakin’ beloved by everyone? My lord, dude tried to get you killed Deebo. You should already have one Super Bowl, and be going to your second Deebo.
kb02
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Smoke Monday (Auburn) & Quantrez Knight (Ucla) would be perfect Strykers in this defense. In that Kwan Williams role.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
Late Day-2 level guys?
kb02
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I think day 2 or day 3. Both are hitters and can cover well enough in short space to play that Honey Badger/K’waun Williams role. I think that role is underrated in this Niners defense. Need a roving type, who can cover the slot and can punish runners.
The line fell apart in the 4th quarter. Jimmy makes pretty quick decisions and he just had no time at all. He missed that easy bomb to Kittle in the first and had a handful of questionable throws but he did enough to give the team a good shot at it. The Tartt drop and Kupp being the best receiver in football when we're missing our #1 CB did us in. That and they just couldn't get to Stafford when they really need to on some of those 4th quarter drives.
I was generally okay with Jimmy G being just good enough all year considering we made it to the post-season in the end and when he was healthy two yeas ago he gave us a lead going into the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl. The ridiculous interception at the end of this game felt like the last straw for me though. Maybe his thumb is still bothering him, maybe the Rams defense was putting just enough pressure for him to miss his reads and throw passes into the ground instead but this was a game where we had one weak link and it just so happens it was the guy with the ball in his hands making all the decisions.
He's a pretty good QB when he's healthy and has time to throw but his decision making under pressure gives the team a ceiling below where we all expect to be. Unlike @SLAB I don't hate him -- missing receivers in the NFC Championship game or the Super Bowl is a certain kind of painful but it sure beats not even getting there in the first place. I also don't think it's a given that we can plug another QB in here and have the same level of success. But we pretty much know what we're going to get with Jimmy. We can win ugly for awhile until we face a disciplined and/or motivated team who'll get after him relentlessly until he buckles. It's time to dream bigger.
On the bright side, our QB couldn't get the job done in the second half but Mahomes was even worse when his team needed him to step up today and unlike Mahomes, Jimmy G isn't under contract for the next 10 years. We go into the off-season now happy that our front office was proactive about finding their QB replacement last year while KC goes into the off-season wondering if their 500 million dollar man just had a bad game or if he peaked early and other teams are starting to figure him out.
He's a pretty good QB when he's healthy and has time to throw but his decision making under pressure gives the team a ceiling below where we all expect to be. Unlike @SLAB I don't hate him -- missing receivers in the NFC Championship game or the Super Bowl is a certain kind of painful but it sure beats not even getting there in the first place. I also don't think it's a given that we can plug another QB in here and have the same level of success. But we pretty much know what we're going to get with Jimmy. We can win ugly for awhile until we face a disciplined and/or motivated team who'll get after him relentlessly until he buckles. It's time to dream bigger.
On the bright side, our QB couldn't get the job done in the second half but Mahomes was even worse when his team needed him to step up today and unlike Mahomes, Jimmy G isn't under contract for the next 10 years. We go into the off-season now happy that our front office was proactive about finding their QB replacement last year while KC goes into the off-season wondering if their 500 million dollar man just had a bad game or if he peaked early and other teams are starting to figure him out.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
The Mahomes thing is fascinating because while the Chiefs have been wildly successful since going to him four years ago, I don't think Andy Reid has changed as a play caller at all. He still randomly forgets how to manage the clock and has two or three mindboggling play calling brainfarts a game (in addition to the other 95% of the time when he's an elite offensive head coach). Now he just has a QB who can extend plays/is so amazing that he can overcome weird coaching decisions to be awesome. When the genius QB has an off day like he had today though, the bad coaching comes back to the fore.
Obviously the Reid/Mahomes combo got a ring so it's hard to say that they're underachieving but things will be interesting going forward as Mahomes' 250 million dollar contract really kicks in and they have to start cutting into their depth even more than they have already. I'm pretty much 100% sure Mahomes is better than he showed today but I think the gap between him and the rest of the league is narrowing in terms of bombastic quarterback play. While Mahomes was pretty much the only guy capable of doing what he was doing three or so years ago. Now Josh Allen and Justin Herbert are almost just as capable of pulling impossible plays out of their butts and guys like Joe Burrow and Kyler Murray are making elite game-changing plays on their own almost every week. Sure Mahomes is unbelievable but he's not the only one anymore.
On the Jimmy G/Kyle Shanahan-side, I guess the ultimate idea is that Trey Lance offers you the potential to have a guy capable of hiding his offensive wunderkind coach's errors/instilling the confidence to run the entire playbook. Sure, he'll have his off days but when you're 6'4", can run a 4.5 40 yard dash, and are capable of throwing the ball fifty yards downfield, there's a wider margin for error than "Well, I guess I'm gonna have to try to force this ball into triple coverage ten yards down the field because I'm not mobile enough to escape the pocket/my shoulder and thumb hurt too much for me to throw hard."
kb02
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I hate Jimmy G as a player. Each game this year, he was good for a handful of wtf throws. Should’ve had three interceptions last night, got lucky with only one. Rams sold out against the run and effectively said Jimmy will have to beat us. He couldn’t. He sucks. Stafford sucks too, btw.
I don’t have an issue with Jimmy as a person. Dude seems to be a good guy, who doesn’t big time anyone. And has set up his family for generations. Gotta respect that.
Ready for a young qb, who is going to make mistakes, but will open up the playbook and will drive opposing defenses crazy with his legs. A seasoned Trey in last night’s game = a Niners victory.
fansinceday1
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I have a hard time feeling bad for the players. They supported and had a below average QB’s back and he did them in in the end when it counted most. Those last 2 offensive drives were a MIRROR IMAGE of Jimmy’s failure in the super bowl against KC.
You insist on riding with a sub par QB, it’ll eventually do you in.
PurpleHaze
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Really does say it all. The end. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/49-ers...s-nfc-title-game-showcased-why-081345068.html
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