New Webber article at ESPN

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dailydime_070113-14

SPECIAL WEEKEND EDITION Where will Webber wind up?By Marc Stein
ESPN.com

Editor's note: ESPN.com senior NBA writer Marc Stein supplies each item for this around-the-league notebook edition of the Daily Dime.
Chris Webber will soon be a Detroit Piston.

Just as he always dreamed.

Unless ...

Phil Jackson or Pat Riley or Isiah Thomas can somehow talk him out of it.

Amid a growing belief that the NBA's hottest free agent will be unable to resist the prospect of playing for his hometown team, Webber was planning to speak directly Friday to the Lakers, Heat and Knicks. Maybe Minnesota as well.

Orlando is another team he's listening to, according to NBA front-office sources, although Webber has not wavered from his stated desire to join a title contender that will give him the chance to start.

The Pistons thus remain an overwhelming favorite, but neither Detroit's pole position nor external skepticism about how much game the 33-year-old has left seems to be discouraging suitors.

The Webber Landscape as of Friday afternoon, with no firm decision expected before Saturday according to agent Aaron Goodwin:



DETROIT PISTONS

Webber wants to play significant minutes, compete for a title and resuscitate his career before re-entering the free-agent market in July. The Pistons are widely considered his clear-cut top choice because they potentially offer all of that and something bigger that Webber can find nowhere else. The chance, namely, to rebuild his relationship with the community that watched him grow up.

Webber is well removed from his days as a local icon and openly shunned by the university where he became a famous name. I'm told he badly wants to reconnect with Detroit at large and sees this opportunity -- helping a splintering team regain their standing as an East beast -- as a golden opportunity, in spite of any initial public resistance he gets and the Pistons' less-than-harmonious mood lately.



LOS ANGELES LAKERS

You surely heard Webber in his TNT interview. He barely mentioned the Pistons and sounded more excited about playing for the Lakers than anyone else. Kobe Bryant has already called to make his pitch, sources say, and Webber is admittedly mesmerized by the bright lights of David Beckham's town as well as Jackson's triangle offense.

Since Webber can't actually sign with the Pistons or anyone else until Tuesday, restricted to verbal commitments between now and then, Jackson might have enough time to convince the ex-King that he'd be better off returning to California, scene of his greatest pro successes.

The Lakers, furthermore, have a need for Webber now and later, with Lamar Odom and Kwame Brown injured at present and a squad short on playoff experience, Bryant aside, even when their starting big men are healthy.





FLORIDA

The Heat have some interest and the wherewithal to outbid Detroit and L.A., teams that can only offer Webber a pro-rated share of the veteran minimum ($1.2 million) for the rest of the season. Yet as covered in Box 6, you question how much playing time Miami can really promise Webber if Shaquille O'Neal will indeed be back this month to rejoin a frontcourt rotation that already features Alonzo Mourinng and Udonis Haslem.

Orlando would seem to be the better Florida fit, with Webber and Dwight Howard sharing Goodwin as an agent and with the Magic looking even younger and greener than the Lakers apart from Grant Hill. But the Magic, sources say, remain a serious long shot, even though the Howard connection is strong, because Webber targeted the league's elite teams from the start.





TEXAS

The Mavericks and Spurs were prominent on Webber's initial five-team wish list. But Dallas never had the minutes to be a top contender, canceling out any edge Mavs coach Avery Johnson had after playing with Webber in Golden State.

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, meanwhile, also has a Warriors link to Webber, as a former Don Nelson assistant in the Bay Area. Yet Pop's Spurs made the call fairly quickly that they wouldn't pursue this, keeping faith with the big men and combo forwards who play alongside Tim Duncan -- Fabricio Oberto, Francisco Elson, Robert Horry and Matt Bonner -- and preferring to focus on its ongoing search for a jolt of youth and athleticism at the swing positions.









THE FIELD

• Webber and Isiah Thomas have been tight for years, but you suspect even Thomas realizes that Webber will field the Knicks' proposal purely out of respect for one of his boyhood heroes.

• Kevin Garnett wants Webber in Minnesota, so Kevin McHale is obligated to pursue it, but that won't go any farther than a Webber-McHale chat.

• The Cavaliers could seemingly use a big man with an eye for the pass, but decided early that they have no room in their frontcourt.

• The Nets, by contrast, do want Webber to give them a look, but face two obstacles:

1. After trading Jeff McInnis to get under the luxury-tax line last week, New Jersey doesn't want to use any of the $3.8 million it has available from its midlevel salary-cap exception because it'll be a tax team again if it spends more than $1 million.

2. Orlando is the only new team on Webber's list, sources say, getting any serious consideration.
 
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To all those who said C-Webb was washed up...

If he's so bad, how comes he's getting so much interest? Buyout or no, that never had any impact on his talent. The Maloofs screwed the pooch in doing that trade, simple as that.
 
To all those who said C-Webb was washed up...

If he's so bad, how comes he's getting so much interest? Buyout or no, that never had any impact on his talent. The Maloofs screwed the pooch in doing that trade, simple as that.

what in the bleeping hell are you talking about... hes gonna most likely sign for the minumum... which team wouldnt make him an offer for that low of money for a washed up webb or not??
 
what in the bleeping hell are you talking about... hes gonna most likely sign for the minumum... which team wouldnt make him an offer for that low of money for a washed up webb or not??

My point is that if he were washed up, no one would be making any offer at all to him. When last did someone make a move towards Shawn Kemp or Latrell Spreewell?
 
To all those who said C-Webb was washed up...

If he's so bad, how comes he's getting so much interest? Buyout or no, that never had any impact on his talent. The Maloofs screwed the pooch in doing that trade, simple as that.

We'll also have to see how many GMs are making statements out of respect to CWebb and to appease their fan bases and how many GMs are actually making offers. It's like the AI situation. Everyone calls, very few make an offer.
 
Webber's agent is not returning calls from the Lakers. I would be surprised if he signed anywhere else other than the Pistons.
 
To all those who said C-Webb was washed up...

If he's so bad, how comes he's getting so much interest? Buyout or no, that never had any impact on his talent. The Maloofs screwed the pooch in doing that trade, simple as that.

He's getting interest because some team will get to pay him the veteran minimum for his services, as opposed to 20 million bucks. Webber is can still be a serviceable power forward but he's nowhere near what he once was and honestly can't be counted on as a major facet of your offense (and most certainly not your defense)

As for getting screwed on that trade, haven't people here discussed that enough.
 
Another point-of-view picked up out of Sunday Bee's "What They Are Saying" column from the Washington Post;

http://www.washingtontimes.com/sports/knott.htm

That's not a point of view -- that's Tom Knotts. And if there's anything pathological going on, its his insane hatred of Chris Webber. I mean, that's been an absolutely notorious thing for a decade at least. Never forgave him for his Washington years. Makes the hatorade venom Charlie Rosen used to pour our way look fair and balanced.
 
That's not a point of view -- that's Tom Knotts. And if there's anything pathological going on, its his insane hatred of Chris Webber. I mean, that's been an absolutely notorious thing for a decade at least. Never forgave him for his Washington years. Makes the hatorade venom Charlie Rosen used to pour our way look fair and balanced.

Bricklayer,
It's just a point of view that's different from your own. From your own profession surely you could understand that your perspective is just one of many. You call Knotts' opinion pathological, you call the author pathological, but that's simply your point of view. Whether Knotts can hold up in this particular forum given the persuasions you cast seems doubtful. But it makes it no less valid. Everyone gets to have an opinion.
 
Bricklayer,
It's just a point of view that's different from your own. From your own profession surely you could understand that your perspective is just one of many. You call Knotts' opinion pathological, you call the author pathological, but that's simply your point of view. Whether Knotts can hold up in this particular forum given the persuasions you cast seems doubtful. But it makes it no less valid. Everyone gets to have an opinion.

Yes it does make it less valid Naz -- extremists are ALWAYS less valid. Its a hate piece from a man who hates a particualr target. And has been notorious for doing so for a very long time. Everyone knows what Tom would say because frankly he has pretty much argued for Webb to be dragged out in the street and shot for tying his shoes wrong. These relationships are set up sometimes amongst writers and targets, and that one is right there aat the very top of the list nationally. Makes any axe that Voison has had to grind look like nothing in comparison, in that for Tom it has never faded. Not during all the Sacto years. Certainly not now. Webb apparently murdered somebody in his family or whatever. And so he fires off what is essentially a hate piece at every opportunity he gets.

You could take the same article from a different source and it would be a legit opinion. But not remotely from such a poisoned well. And of course if the well isn't posioned, the hatorade never flows so deep. So yes, the source is abslutely all that matters there. You might as well publish an article from Osama Bin Laden about George Bush. Let the hate flow, and flow deep.
 
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Well your position is certainly clear. I have to appreciate that you state, "you could take the same article from a different source and it would be legit." Therefore i assume you read the entire article.

I found an excerp of this article in today's Sacramento Bee. I noticed that it was not available from the website. So i pulled it off the site where it originated.

This saga of Chris Webber has been a fairly hotly debated issue. Amazingly, it continues to find new twists and turns...
 
This saga of Chris Webber has been a fairly hotly debated issue. Amazingly, it continues to find new twists and turns...

Personally, I find this "saga" pretty boring. It's hard to believe that at this point he will make much difference on any team with championship ambitions. He can get some minutes during the stretch when the main big guys are injured or resting, but I doubt he will be more of a factor come playoff time than someone like Antoine Walker... and I didn't really hold my breath during Walker's free agency.
 
Personally, I find this "saga" pretty boring. It's hard to believe that at this point he will make much difference on any team with championship ambitions. He can get some minutes during the stretch when the main big guys are injured or resting, but I doubt he will be more of a factor come playoff time than someone like Antoine Walker... and I didn't really hold my breath during Walker's free agency.
You didnt think Webber would make a difference back when he was making a difference. Why would your opinion change now?
 
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