New Arena Study To Be Released Thursday

Looks like Herewebuild.com got dumped because the guy who registered it wanted $350,000 for use of the name. Now it's worth nothing, just like his name.
 
Yeah so many people busted their butts trying to save the Kings from moving and all this Tony Peric guy saw was "bank". Did he really think the city was going to write him a huge check for this name?
 
OK, I just read the whole report. It looks like it was written at the end of 2009 - beginning of 2010 and the language was not adjusted to reflect current events. So I am not exactly sure what this is supposed to prove, except show that there is a net benefit to the businesses, employment and government revenue.

EDIT: I guess I read the threshold report, which is something else? I'm not exactly sure. Going to read the other one now.
 
JB_kings said:
Yeah so many people busted their butts trying to save the Kings from moving and all this Tony Peric guy saw was "bank". Did he really think the city was going to write him a huge check for this name?
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He should have just lowered his price. Bet he could have gotten 5 to 10 grand for that. Nothing wrong with making a profit here people. Isn't that what the maloofs do? (or try at least)
 
Ok just read the other report. The really painted it as a no brainer, it's very well written and easy to understand. Perfect for politicians who are used to seeing 500 page documents and just not reading them and making their minds up on an idea rather than facts.
 
macadocious said:
OK, I just read the whole report. It looks like it was written at the end of 2009 - beginning of 2010 and the language was not adjusted to reflect current events. So I am not exactly sure what this is supposed to prove, except show that there is a net benefit to the businesses, employment and government revenue.

EDIT: I guess I read the threshold report, which is something else? I'm not exactly sure. Going to read the other one now.
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I believe the Threshold report is the report that was released, as far as I can see.

Long-term projections aren't based only on current conditions, but rather on long-term data. Current conditions aren't reflective of exactly what will happen over time. However, it's clear that the report's projections took into account the current conditions in making long term projections.
 
I am fine with the report.

However, I would like to state my perspective. It is a perspective that many other have, I believe, and it is not stated enough IMHO.

I don't really care if the arena as a whole is a money loser. This has never been about a financial investment to me. It is a quality of life investment to me. If it makes money - fine; but it is not the issue.

I have taken the family to Disneyland. I lost a fair amount of money in the venture. But that really is not the point of the trip is it? I look at this issue in the same manner.

That's all :).
 
kupman said:
I am fine with the report.

However, I would like to state my perspective. It is a perspective that many other have, I believe, and it is not stated enough IMHO.

I don't really care if the arena as a whole is a money loser. This has never been about a financial investment to me. It is a quality of life investment to me. If it makes money - fine; but it is not the issue.

I have taken the family to Disneyland. I lost a fair amount of money in the venture. But that really is not the point of the trip is it? I look at this issue in the same manner.

That's all :).
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Exactly! There are a number of public things out there that quality of life things. If we applied the same logic these anti-arena people use, then we would have no libraries, parks or many other things that are enjoyed. These things make a better city. And it's not welfare for millionaires. Most pro sports teams pay a yearly lease to use a public facility. That is what the Kings want to do with this deal. They just want to be tennants like in the Anaheim deal. If the city can partner up with an event and facility management group like AEG, then it very well could be a win-win for everyone.

The naysayers claim that the benefits are overstated. Well that just happens to be a tactic they have employed all along.
 
JB_kings said:
Exactly! There are a number of public things out there that quality of life things. If we applied the same logic these anti-arena people use, then we would have no libraries, parks or many other things that are enjoyed. These things make a better city. And it's not welfare for millionaires. Most pro sports teams pay a yearly lease to use a public facility. That is what the Kings want to do with this deal. They just want to be tennants like in the Anaheim deal. If the city can partner up with an event and facility management group like AEG, then it very well could be a win-win for everyone.

The naysayers claim that the benefits are overstated. Well that just happens to be a tactic they have employed all along.
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We agree, but the naysayers aren't concerned with quality of life. This is about them versus the Maloofs. The Maloofs have money and they don't, so they spend all their time trying to make sure the Maloofs don't benefit in any way. It's why almost any argument you throw out there doesn't matter to them. Envy and hate is not rational.

It's hard to measure civic pride and people who don't have it don't understand it. If you've lived in Sac your whole life and you're not a Kings fan, then you've never experienced it, so you don't know what it means. It's an uphill battle changing the minds of these people with the pride argument. City needs to make their case and then do what they know they need to do for the city to reach its full potential.
 
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