Nbadraft.net - PG -Sergio Rodriguez-Espana @19 -w/video

I didnt want to start a new topic on this but if Kings really want a pg, Petrie should try to make a deal with the Bucks, they are stacked at that position with Bell, Ford and Mo.



Back on topic, Sergio could become a good pg in the NBA but i see this guy getting abused by stronger pg's, and in those videos you can see him sometimes trying to be too flashy and people say he is not a defender, IMO I dont think we need that type of a pg.
 
Charlie Bell, indeed! He'd be so good for us.

Don't expect us to draft a PG because of Price, a young PG with us already who Petrie likes and will be on our VSL roster.
 
Didn't we trade JWill for Bibby because Petrie wanted someone who was less flashy and made better decisions on the offensive end? Doubt we draft this kid.
 
Sirius said:
Didn't we trade JWill for Bibby because Petrie wanted someone who was less flashy and made better decisions on the offensive end? Doubt we draft this kid.
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Answer to your question...yes. Comment on your second sentence...agreed.
 
Bucks GM Harris has also said he wants a defensive minded young swingman

trade Cisco or Monia? and Kenny for Mags and Bell

We fill our center and backup pg spot

Bucks want to give more minutes to Bogut at center, Joe Smith and Toni Kukoc are getting old and are injury prone, so Kenny can give them some extra energy and rebounding
 
Packt said:
Good court vision, but still looks raw. His dribble would get stripped in the NBA.
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I kind of thought that too...but he is definitely a gifted player. We need a player with his type of skills.

Petrie should have him in for a workout and go up against Ronnie Price and Jason Hart. That will give him a real good idea if his flash and slick moves could work against NBA caliber players.

Of course it could be argued schooling J-Hart doesn't prove anything.

Ron Artest usually hangs out at Arco always up for a game of 1-on-1, and you know Ron-Ron would share his opinion....but apparently he is driving a bus with his face on the side to his next rap concert.

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i wouldnt mind it, if we trade for a decent big man... he'd be just the type of player that we need coming off the bench playing with marin and garcia... kinda like devin harris.... we need someone who can play outside of the offense and can free up our other players.... flashy players make for good spark plugs off the bench....
 
the boy can ball.... his ball handling wouldnt be as reckless in the nba...
 
AriesMar27 said:
the boy can ball.... his ball handling wouldnt be as reckless in the nba...
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There's NO WAY you can know that ahead of time. In fact, Jason Williams is the perfect case in point. He was every bit as reckless when he came into the NBA. In fact, he really didn't calm down until his spirit was pretty much broken in Memphis. I'm glad to see he's finally evolved into a combination of the flashy Jason and the controlled Jason but it's taken a LONG time for him to get there. There's no way to guarantee the same wouldn't happen. It's just a big ??? at this point.
 
Jason Williams has one more NBA Finals appearance than Mike Bibby.

Just saying. You can't teach talent/instincts, and especially with the Princeton now dead and buried, there will always be value to somebody who can actually create. Just a question of whether you can tame it or not.

Nonetheless, such free-wheeling play would seem to be at odds with either our tougher mentality, or a relatively uptight coach/GM pairing. Wonder if Phoenix has him on their radar?
 
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he sure would be an exciting commodity off the kings bench. he'd mix a bit of flash with the toughness of the team. off the bench, that can't really hurt, expecially considering the kings have never had a natural backup PG with talent for creation. b-jax was electric, but he was a dribble and score first kind of PG. jason hart isn't really good at much of anything. price is an unknown quantity, and so is sergio rodriguez, but i'd be lying if i said i wasn't intrigued. make a move to draft a solid big man first, and if there is nobody that really appeals to the rebounding/shot blocking desired by the front office, go ahead and make a move for a guy like rodriguez. he may be wild and reckless, but he can clearly create, and he wouldn't be thrust into a starting role like jason williams was.
 
Bricklayer said:
Jason Williams has one more NBA Finals appearance than Mike Bibby.

Just saying. You can't teach talent/instincts, and especially with the Princeton now dead and buried, there will always be value to somebody who can actually create. Just a question of whether you can tame it or not.

Nonetheless, such free-wheeling play would seem to be at odds with either our tougher mentality, or a relatively uptight coach/GM pairing. Wonder if Phoenix has him on their radar?
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Good point. I could see him being groomed as Nash's successor in a few years.

While we're on the subject...PG development in the NBA is a tough process. Occasionally there's a JKidd or a Chris Paul that comes in and makes an immediate impact. However, it normally takes a top PG about 3-5 years to develop into the same dominant player in the NBA that he was in college. Also, they need to be put in the right situation. Every great PG gets the opportunity to develop thanks to good coaching and the right opportunity with the right system.

Here are some examples of great PG's that took a couple years to develop, but eventually became great!

Seattle execs once claimed Gary Payton was the worst draft pick they'd ever made because of his "slow" 2-3 year development.

Look at Nash. Nash was always PRETTY GOOD in Dallas, but now with Phoenix...he's considered the best in the buisiness and has back-to-back MVP's! That's an even slower development than normal seeing as he's been in the league 10+ years now.

I believe this last year was Tony PArker's 4th in the league. Look at the strides he's made over the last 3 years! He lead the league in points in the paint as a 6'1 PG.

Chauncey Billups is another example. Always had the talent but needed the right situation and opportunity to make mistakes for a few years before developing into an All-Star.

So, to back up what many have said about JWill...I congratulate him for getting to the finals...but he wouldn't be there right now if it weren't for the stable influence of GP behind him...plus the rediculous talent of DWade and Shaq. Also, if you watch the Heat play...JWill is hardly ever on the floor in crunch time because he still isn't a great defender! Plus he's still a rediculously streaky shooter at times. Some games he'll go 2-7 from the field like Game 4 of the ECF, another 10-12 like in Game 5. So, I give the guy credit for playing well, but he's not much different from before...just a little mroe controlled, but all in all not much better and not much worse in my mind.
 
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Amanjoy said:
Good point. I could see him being groomed as Nash's successor in a few years.

While we're on the subject...PG development in the NBA is a tough process. Occasionally there's a JKidd or a Chris Paul that comes in and makes an immediate impact. However, it normally takes a top PG about 3-5 years to develop into the same dominant player in the NBA that he was in college. JWill showed flashes of brilliance...but was never on the court (AND STILL HARDLY EVER IS) when the game is on the line.

Also, at one point...Seattle execs claimed Gary Payton was the worst draft pick they'd ever made because of his "slow" 2-3 year development.

Look at Nash. Nash was always PRETTY GOOD in Dallas, but now with Phoenix...he's considered the best in the buisiness and has back-to-back MVP's! That's an even slower development than normal seeing as he's been in the league 10+ years now.

I believe this last year was Tony PArker's 4th. Look at the strides he's made over the last 3 years!

So, to back up what many have said about JWill...I congratulate him for getting to the finals...but he wouldn't be there right now if it weren't for the stable influence of GP behind him...plus the rediculous talent of DWade and Shaq.
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that's not development. significant development in the nba stops after a few seasons for most players. that's why there's little hope for a guy like kwame brown. if you can't figure out the nba game within 4-5 years, MAXIMUM, you don't belong in the league. as for steve nash, the situation in phoenix is just nash being surrounded with an incredibly talented supporting cast that looks even better when suited to his uptempo style of play. nash does all the heavy lifting in phoenix, whereas in dallas it was pretty evenly distributed between nash, nowitzki, and finley. if anything, you can call steve nash's success in phoenix a situation in which a player was able to refine his craft because of ideal conditions, but i wouldn't go so far as to call it development. after all, he's not doing anything different in phoenix than he did in dallas...he's just doing it better.
 
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Padrino said:
that's not development. significant development in the nba stops after a few seasons for most players. that's why there's little hope for a guy like kwame brown. if you can't figure out the nba game within 4-5 years, MAXIMUM, you don't belong in the league. as for steve nash, the situation in phoenix is just nash being surrounded with an incredibly talented supporting cast that looks even better when suited to his uptempo style of play. nash does all the heavy lifting in phoenix, whereas in dallas it was pretty evenly distributed between nash, nowitzki, and finley. if anything, you can call steve nash's success in phoenix a situation in which a player was able to refine his craft because of ideal conditions, but i wouldn't go so far as to call it development. after all, he's not doing anything different in phoenix than he did in dallas...he's just doing it better.
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Point well taken...but doesn' t the fact that Nash is doing what he does better now classify it as development to a certain extent?

When I watched Nash with Dallas, I saw a guy with all the potential in the world to lead a team that I thought had the most talent of anyone in the league with Dirk, Finley, Van Exel, & co. But, what I saw was a little immaturity on his part in knowing where the ball needed to be at the right time (Dirk's hands...their most dominant player). Also, before Dirk showed up, it's not like Nash was making All-Stars out of scrubs the way he is now with PHX. Now, he seems to know exactly who's got the hot hand and where, and when and how to get them the ball in the best position to score. To me, I see that as maturity, development as a player...or whatever else that can be seen as synonomous with those words.
 
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Bricklayer said:
Nonetheless, such free-wheeling play would seem to be at odds with either our tougher mentality, or a relatively uptight coach/GM pairing. Wonder if Phoenix has him on their radar?
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There are rumors that Phoenix is high on him and is pretty much guaranteed to take Sergio with one of their first round picks if he lasts that long on draft night.
 
what are they gonna do with him? squeeze him in behind nash and barbosa? could slowly develop him, but a player like that needs to be on the court to learn what his limits in the nba are going to be. i guess it could work if they plan on grooming him for the starting spot, while allowing barbosa to remain the 6th man.
 
Great Discussion. Mainly because we all watched that video. I was impressed with what I saw. I think we should go after him if we cannot fill our other main need which is a decent big man. We need a guy that isn't allergic to the paint. I like Price but I would rather fill a roster spot with Sergio than Ronnie. Sorry Ronnie.
 
Well wow, just wow. It would make the Kings exciting again, but... we won't win a championship with him. Not for a long while that is. He's going to get destroyed by bigger PG's, but he shouldn't be reckless, seems like a smart player. But, I highly doubt we'll get him, especially with Price as our future.
 
whoever chose that music for those videos either speaks no english or has a very strange sense of humor.


cool looking kid. let's not draft him.
 
Bad Boy Bo said:
especially with Price as our future.
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People keep saying that and...wow...that's just incredibly premature. Price should be back for another look to see if we have a nugget, but if he doesn't get many minutes next year, a distinct possibility, not only is he not our future, he's very likely no longer on our team after next season.
 
Padrino said:
what are they gonna do with him? squeeze him in behind nash and barbosa? could slowly develop him, but a player like that needs to be on the court to learn what his limits in the nba are going to be. i guess it could work if they plan on grooming him for the starting spot, while allowing barbosa to remain the 6th man.
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With that kind of creativity and vision, I would think he would be an ideal type guy to bring in and let Nash tutor as his eventual repalcement. Barbosa has blossomed, but he really can't run the show the way Nash can. This kid...maybe. At least he has some similar passing skills/court vision. If I was Phoenix I would definitely snag him if I could as a potential long term solution to Nash's age.
 
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