NBA Live 2005 - merged

Bballkingsrock

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Will anyone get NBA Live 2005 this year?

Will anyone get NBA Live 2005 this year? Or maybe ESPN? i will get NBA live since it has dunk competion, new dynasty features and much more. Its only now $40. What will you guys get?
 
Most likely I will. I have all PS2 NBA related basketball games dating from 2001 ;)

Wow! A dunk contest? This, I gotta see!
 
Yes i will buy it and trade in last years model like i always do.

They got rid of last years motion capture and replaced it with a 10 man mo cap so no more cowarded lanes. This also gives better defensive positioning. Key players will also their own style of movement so you can tell the difference in Shaq's style to Duncan's.

Instead of just doing that stupid tip dunk animation they give you a choice to do the dunk, tip the ball in, bat it out a la vlade, or just rebound it.

The pro hop was too strong last year so this year they toned it down, so this time you need a clear path in order to pro hop. If not then you'll probably draw an offensive foul or lose the ball on contact.

The dynasty mode is a lot better with a smarter trading/signing system so no more Danny Ainge like trades. Just because the players rating is similar does'nt mean that you can trade for another. You can even scout a rookie and invite them to play 1 on 1 with a player on your team to see what he has. The mode is too complicated for me to explain because they threw out the old system (that they had for years) they had, so heres a video on it:
http://media.xbox.ign.com/media/681/681533/vid_937195.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fs.streamingmovies.ign.com%2Fsports%2Farticle%2F548%2F548314%2Flivedynasty_001_wmvlow.wmv

Then finally there is all star weekend. the 3 pt contest is back. Almost each player has their own style of shooting, from Peja's to Walker's ugly hurl. The dunk contest will be judged by NBA legends. It will play sort of like Tony Hawk. Their is also the rookie games and of course the all star game. They added a new move for the all star game, its the TMac off the glass. It can only be done in all star games though.

Here's the dunk competition (just press F5 if it does'nt load):
http://media.sports.ign.com/articles/548/548400/vid_937190.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fstreamingmovies.ign.com%2Fsports%2Farticle%2F548%2F548400%2Fpotdwarriorsasw_001_wmvlow.wmv

damn... now i got to go write a paper that should be about the same length... too bad im not as interested in Government:mad:
 
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I have always thought ESPN was always a notch better than Live when it comes to basketball. If the player physics are better in Live this year, I might consider going back to it this season.
 
NBA live 2005 will be in my collection as soon as it is released. I have every copy since 2002. I haven't had much to complain about the NBA live series up until last year, when they put in the jump stop move, which made games too easy if you abused it. I hope they upgrade the graphics engine on this years game. Live 04 was only a very small upgrade graphically to 03's game.
 
I've always preferred Espn's 2k.. Although I haven't played any of the recent NBA live games. ESPN seems to be much more realisitic in simulation.
 
KingKong said:
I've always preferred Espn's 2k.. Although I haven't played any of the recent NBA live games. ESPN seems to be much more realisitic in simulation.
Ive played both, they are started to catch up

after messing around with the sliders, both the games started to have the same feel to me :-\
 
That dunk contest looked pathetic. From that clip it looks like it still needs some major ironing out. ESPN is going to be 20 bucks right?
 
Player Hater: NBA Live 2005
Can EA's new baller convert this Sega lover?
http://xbox.ign.com/articles/550/550443p1.html

September 23, 2004 - I am in disbelief. NBA Live 2005 is good, real good. And what's more, it's a great sim. Yes, EA has made a great basketball sim and I am suffering from symptoms of shock. You see, I haven't cared for any version of NBA Live this millennium. Yes, the old school Live games from the Genesis era were great, but the arcade-posing-as-sim versions of Live on the current generation of consoles just haven't been my thing at all. To be fair, Live 2004 took some solid steps towards leaving the fast-paced arcade feel of previous Live games, but I just couldn't be sold. Not last year. Now, with so many cool touches, good AI, and solid game mechanics, Live 2005 has my attention. If you're a hater, perhaps I can convince you to give NBA Live 2005 a chance.

The State of Basketball Games
In the early 2000s, my basketball dimes were spent on Sega's NBA 2K series. But the past two years, I really haven't had a true basketball sim I could enjoy. Sorry Sega, but I just ran out of 2K steam two years ago. Last year I didn't even play a franchise mode, I just spent my time on NBA Street 2 and ESPN NBA Basketball's 24/7 mode. Live, which I'd long thought of as NBA Jam without the flair, never had a chance. I'd pretty much given up hope for a good sim basketball game to play over the holidays. That hope has been revived.

Live Wise
NBA Live 2005's a smart game. That's what I like about it most. The AI on both offense and defense act like a real NBA team. They'll push it inside, try and collapse the post and then kick it to the open man on the perimeter. Shaq is instantly double-teamed and even hacked when he has the ball in the post. Kobe and KG are physical, pushing and bumping, trying to keep good shooters from feeling comfortable on the court. Sure, there's a bit of arcade flair with great dunks, sky-high alley-oops, and violent shot blocks, but you have to earn every bit of it. Sometimes you can a clear lane and drive to the hoop, just as in the NBA, but often lanes close off -- especially against good defensive teams. You'll need good ball movement to get open looks and on the higher difficulties you will need every last second of the shot clock. Passing can't be nonchalant either, as the defense -- even schlubs like the Warriors -- will swat or even steal ill-advised passes. Fortunately, you have plenty of control on offense.

Get Offensive
Freestyle control returns, with the Right Thumbstick allowing for a variety of offensive and defensive moves based on taps and fireball motions. However, it seems that the offensive freestyle has been toned down just a tad to make it a little more realistic. You have to be aware of who you use as well, since Shaq has no business performing a 360 crossover. Try it and the Big Aristotle will be skipping the rock right into an opponent's mitts.

Break your defender down, blow past him and go for the dunk. Should someone step in front to contest the shot, switch to a layup and even double clutch to try and avoid the massive swat. As with NBA 2K5, you'll have a hop step, though Live's is a bit more realistic in purpose and execution and it doesn't instantly equal an easy layup. Lord, never thought I'd be giving Live props over 2K for realism. What the hell is happening to the video game sports world?

A nice addition this year is the ability to alter how you tackle offensive rebounds. When the ball clanks off the iron, you can choose to go for a normal, safe rebound and bring the ball down for redistribution or you can go for a tip-in or an emphatic jam off the rebound. Your success depends in part on player ratings, but as with much of Live 2005, is just as much about player positioning and smart physics. My favorite thing on offense, though, is the ability to move players on the court while inbounding the ball. This is a great help when the defense is putting full court pressure and you want to free your man for the inbounds. I've also hit the game winner thanks to this. Think Derek Fisher and you'll get the idea, though I did have more time (two seconds) on the clock. I took control of my created player, General Lee, swung to my favorite perimeter spot, and called for the inbounds pass from K-Mart. Nothing but net as time expired. That's a beautiful thing.

Defender of the Paint
There's a lot of freedom on offense, but just as much on defense. Once again you can use the Right Thumbstick to offer extra control on defense. Raise your hands to make it tougher on a passer, fight for position, or try and poke at the ball for the steal. The Right Thumbstick, which has been in use with Live since the 2003 version and it's still a great invention. When I play Live 2005, I feel involved in defense constantly. It's not about tapping a button in hopes of a steal, I really am trying to box out Yao.

It is a little easy to get steals and block shots, at least on Pro, but I'll take playing D on Live 2005 over any other game in the past few years. No, it's not perfect -- in fact NBA Live overall is nowhere near a perfect game -- but it's fun, smart, and involving.

A True All-Star
Beyond the Dynasty Mode, which loses the cut-scene drama in favor of deeper features, NBA Live 2005 offers some great mini-game extras. All-Star weekend is fully realized with the Rookie game, 3-Point Shootout, and Slam Dunk Contest, to go along with the All-Star game.

The 3-Point Shootout works just like the real deal, with your chosen player moving around the perimeter, shooting balls, and even dropping the money ball for extra points. It's fun, but a mere distraction compared to the Slam Dunk Contest. The Dunk Contest is, quite honestly, better than anything else NBA 2K5 or NBA Live 2005 have to offer. The most innovative sports mini-game I've ever seen, you truly get full control to create as many interesting dunks as possible. Toss the ball off the scoreboard and snatch it as you finish with a windmill dunk of launch from the freethrow line and slam it down like 'Nique. You'll get scored by five professionals as you battle for victory. The only thing missing is allowing for an AI partner to throw the ball to you. Perhaps for next year EA?

EA Renaissance
A few years back, many EA sports games weren't viewed with very high esteem. Sure, Madden sold through the roof, but it was becoming a derivative series heading into the new century. Triple Play was, well, total crap the last few years of its existence. Though sales were ridiculously high, the quality of EA's sports games a few years back was passable, but no longer brilliant. Over the past few years EA has made a major effort to improve all of its sports franchises. It began in earnest with NCAA Football 2003 and continued with the first MVP Baseball and major improvements to Madden. This year, along with Madden's brilliant defensive approach, NBA Live 2005 cements EA as the premier developer for true sim sports games.
Argue if you want, I know many still love Sega. Hell, I still love Sega. NFL 2K5 is a great game, but Sega has begun to incorporate more arcade elements into their games. The two companies are slowly switching roles, which is bizarre, but may result in some of the greatest sports games ever made over the next few years from both publishers. EA has the benefit of huge dollars, which allows for an evolution of its games, where Sega is more of, well, just struggling to keep its head above water.
 
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Mad D said:
Ive played both, they are started to catch up

after messing around with the sliders, both the games started to have the same feel to me :-\
Exactly. I spent a lot of time messing with the settings on Live, from player ratings to fouls to shot difficulty. I have it right where I want it.

I'm not a fan of ESPN Basketball. Wasn't my cup of tea. I liked 2K3, but ESPN seemed faulty to me. I'll check it out, but Live is my first choice.
 
Kings' player ratings for Live 2005

They seem a bit low - especially Bibby's. Atleast you'll be able to change any of them if you please.

nbalive2005xbox34.jpg
 
wow... they took a big chunk out of webber, 86 last year. He should be at least 81, c'mon Finley is 81!! Even Antoine freakin' Walker is 80!! They even brought up Ostertag from 42 to 52.

I think they did that to counter everyone the fact that everyone elses rating that all have gone up, plus the injury last year.

Bibby really is'nt that low, they brought him up from the 60's. He is still higher than Jason Willam's and Billups who are about 70.
 
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Actually by looking at most of the teams, the rankings are about right. Some of the ratings for certain players like Walker were probably a bit higher just to balance out the weaker teams.
 
now i have do what i did last year. improve everyone that needs to be improved and then save it. then every time i wanna play, i gotta load this stuff. sheesh!!!

where did you get this from??? can you get me a link???
 
I hope to buy it, Though I need to save my money for a big trip next summer:( .
But I still might buy it, Depends if it's really worth the cash.
The new features looked awsome!

Chances are i'll buy it:p .
It comes out october 8th not september 29th...

~Peja#16
 
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now I know why Webber is so low

they took 40 pts off his dunk lowering it to 50, took 15 off his 3pt, and lowered his passing and his dribbling. This makes little sense because the 3pt shooting and passing dont require mobility you need to run and jump. They highered his jump and left his speed at 73 which makes him one of the fastest PF in the game, which also doesnt make sense.

here's the ratings:
http://sports.ign.com/nba-live-2005/sacramento.html

no bluthental
 
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