Yeah, except this time, they lost by a lot, and then came back the next night, and lost by a lot again; Golden State had them nearly doubled up (98-52, IIRC) after three quarters.
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123-80 final score. Ouch...
I'll bet you lunch that none of those fans are STH's.
PurpleHaze
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I'm depressed over my team, apparently my team is likewise depressed, so we should all be thankful for what we have - considering this poor little boys terrible fate but for once he gets his wish... chance to travel 10,000 miles to see his favorite NBA team play.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...them-play-before-he-goes-blind-171807528.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...them-play-before-he-goes-blind-171807528.html
Kingsfan23
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Down 2 in Oakland last second three from Bron, that was a great game
Mass
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I don't know where to post it, or if it's already been posted, but it's fun... Watch DMC here:
jalfa
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nice touch for them to have boogie as the extremely relaxed, hyper-intelligent guy. kinda counteracts the angry/dumb narrative the media likes to spin. though he does seem a bit stoned, if you ask me.
(P.S.: this thing still is 3:42 of cringe. needed a third attempt to get through it)
(P.S.: this thing still is 3:42 of cringe. needed a third attempt to get through it)
whozit
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Stoned? I took it more as stage fright.
jalfa
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anybody else interested in some Rob Kurz updates? or how about some news from Kevin Pittsnoggle? maybe even a clip of Scott Pollard's newest "film"? Sham has just the thing for you:
http://www.shamsports.com/2014/02/bookkeeping-retired-guys-2014-edition.html
also in that article: Javaris Crittenton (best known for the infamous Wizards locker room gun incident with Glbert Arenas) was arrested for the possession of 400kg (!!!) of cocaine, whilst awaiting a murder trial and Troy Hudson is now part of "the Sswag Movement" (stop Satan's work against god).
http://www.shamsports.com/2014/02/bookkeeping-retired-guys-2014-edition.html
also in that article: Javaris Crittenton (best known for the infamous Wizards locker room gun incident with Glbert Arenas) was arrested for the possession of 400kg (!!!) of cocaine, whilst awaiting a murder trial and Troy Hudson is now part of "the Sswag Movement" (stop Satan's work against god).
Dime Dropper
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How stupid can someone be? It boggles the mind. He could have been set up for life with an NBA career if he had even 10% of the intelligence of a normal person. Now it looks like he's going to be put away for a long, long time. What a complete idiot.
Sometimes it's just the result of upbringing/ environment that he grew up in... Then you throw a load of money at someone not ready to handle it and ...
Whenever people start debating about who should be on basketball's "Mount Rushmore," why does everyone forget about Mikan? Wasn't he basketball's first superstar? Wasn't he, basically, the reason for the NBL/BAA merger? Didn't he pretty much carry the league until Cousy, Russell and Petit came along?
63royals
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All true, but I don't think that puts him on Mt. Rushmore; others have been better. Mikan was the first dominant basketball player. I'd have Bil Russell (despite what he said at the All Star game), Oscar Robertson, and Michael Jordan; not sure about the 4th, leaning toward Wilt Chamberlain.
I would probably have Mikan, Russell, Abdul-Jabbar and Jordan, if pressed; one from each era.
Glenn
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No one roots for Goliath. Wilt blew away every record known to basketball and that is ignored. It gives some understanding to the feelings about Cousins. If he wasn't so darn big and dominating, he would be rated higher as a basketball player. For some reason a basketball player gets downgraded because he is tall and in Cousins case, because he is strong. I am not voting for Shaq on the basketball Mt Rushmore but it is a curiosity that although he dominated every center on the court with him, he is not respected to the level this particular reality should give him. Why in basketball does being big seem to subtract from your achievements?
There have been guys where the rules of basketball have changed. Mikan changed the width of the paint and blah, blah, blah.
There have been guys where the rules of basketball have changed. Mikan changed the width of the paint and blah, blah, blah.
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I didn't "ignore" Wilt. But, I only put one player from each era on there; Wilt and Russell played during the same era, and Russell won, and Wilt didn't. So, I went with Russell.
Hadlowe
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Because Shaq's size and athleticism were not of his own doing.
On another note, watching the Spurs play just makes me sad. 8 passes and no dribbles leading to an open lay-in in the space of ten seconds. Purposeful movement away from the ball and ball movement.
Glenn
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You realize how many athletes in every sport would be disqualified if we didn't rate them well because of some physical feature that was not of there own doing. Wilt was about 7'1". Compare him with all the other ball players of a similar height and how does he do? One stat that has nothing to do with height, I don't think, is the season where Wilt averaged 48 1/2" per game.
The point however is well taken as despite the extraordinary accomplishments of Wilt, he IS excluded because he is tall. His height doesn't explain the year he lead the league in assists but what the heck.
Do we eliminate wide receivers because they are fast? Etc, etc. etc.
I was referring to Wilt and not Shaq.
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jalfa
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I don't know that Wilt is ignored because of his height. it seems more likely that people are uncomfortable putting him at the absolute elite, because of the era he played in. a) pretty much nobody doing these rankings these days have actually seen him play, b) quite a lot of people consider his competition to be far too sub par to not take his production with a ton of salt, c) basketball in those times was played at such a much faster pace that the sheer number of possessions inflate some of those stats. I don't necessarily inscribe to any/all of those notions, but then, I find these kind of rankings utterly pointless and would rather just not do a Mt. Rushmore thing.
Glenn
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What is the difference between having competition that is subpar and being so dominant no one has a chance? I saw him play with the Globe Trotters his first year out of college and watched him as a pro. If we are going to compare athletic abilities to modern people then it's not a fair contest. Wilt did not benefit from modern training, weight lifting, diet, medicine, etc. so was at a huge disadvantage to modern players. If you are going to compare people to their peers, which is the only way I think it is fair to judge people across generations, he had no peer statistically. Russell got under his skin, I must say and I will never take anything away from Russell. Russell was also on a far better team.
He will never get his due. One year his coach said "Wilt we need you to score" so he averaged 50 pts per game. One year with the Lakers he was told the team didn't need his scoring so he led the league in assists. Tell him what to do and he did it. He was so embarrassed by his size he never dunked. And then there's the sexual conquests .........
I will never understand the logic that he didn't have much competition. That's the point, isn't it? I remember many years ago detailing every record he held and I think it took a few people's breaths away. The game was different so rebounding numbers are not comparable across the generations but the fact that he led the league year after year counts for something.
I always thought he was the best until MJ came along. Now we have Lebron. Have people seen Oscar play? Anybody who can average a triple double over a three year span perhaps has sub par competition. Whatcha think?
I even saw Mikan. Not very impressive, honestly. The lanes were 6 ft. wide so he developed his right and left hook shot and was unstoppable. I don't rate him high only because he beat people with his brains. No one thought of doing what he did. He was the first big man.
These discussions can go on for ever but I put Wilt in the top 3 and as to sex, #1.
He will never get his due. One year his coach said "Wilt we need you to score" so he averaged 50 pts per game. One year with the Lakers he was told the team didn't need his scoring so he led the league in assists. Tell him what to do and he did it. He was so embarrassed by his size he never dunked. And then there's the sexual conquests .........
I will never understand the logic that he didn't have much competition. That's the point, isn't it? I remember many years ago detailing every record he held and I think it took a few people's breaths away. The game was different so rebounding numbers are not comparable across the generations but the fact that he led the league year after year counts for something.
I always thought he was the best until MJ came along. Now we have Lebron. Have people seen Oscar play? Anybody who can average a triple double over a three year span perhaps has sub par competition. Whatcha think?
I even saw Mikan. Not very impressive, honestly. The lanes were 6 ft. wide so he developed his right and left hook shot and was unstoppable. I don't rate him high only because he beat people with his brains. No one thought of doing what he did. He was the first big man.
These discussions can go on for ever but I put Wilt in the top 3 and as to sex, #1.
jalfa
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well, the whole crux of the matter is that there's no comparing all those guys. we're not just talking about different eras, we're talking about completely different games, if you get right down to it. there's no telling how one player would've done in another era. rules have changed, perceptions of the game have changed, training has changed, logistics have changed, and so on and so forth. it simply doesn't translate, which is why I find the whole idea of doing these kinds of historical comparisons ridiculous.
Glenn
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I'll agree with this although every year someone gives it a shot.
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Mike D back at it again tonight lol
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