[NBA] Comments that don't warrant their own thread (2011-2012 season)

wtf?!?-deal so far: Nene to WAS, McGee to the Nuggets, Nick Young to the Clips (who trade away Cook and a pick). don't have all the details, but so, I would commit ritual suicide if I were a Nuggs fan.

okay, so apparently it's:

Denver outgoing: Nene
Denver incoming: McGee, Turiaf

Washington outgoing: Young, McGee
Washington incoming: Nene, Cook, Clippers pick

LA outgoing: Cook, pick
LA incoming: Young
 
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I'd love to bring in Nate McMillan as new coach next year - I gotta imagine a lot of other teams would as well, though. Why did the Blazers let him go?
 

Kingster

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Jerry West made the Bogut deal, not just to get bigger with Bogut, but to get worse for the rest of this season (because Bogut is injured this year and all they get back is Jackson) to get a higher draft pick. He knows this is a strong draft year. West is no dummy.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
Not sure who's doing color commentary for this game on ESPN tonight but whoever it is has surely taken enough Xanax to last a lifetime.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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Random thought: Is there a more overused theme on nation-wide local sports TV than the NBA on NBC theme?
In the first place, what on earth are "nation wide local sports?"

In the second place, if you're referring to "Roundball Rock," I haven't heard it since 2002, anywhere, except for the Olympics.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
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Wow. That makes me very angry. I certainly hope young Mr. Smith is not only suspended but subjected to a very hard hit to his wallet. That could easily have been a career ending injury.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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Wow. That makes me very angry. I certainly hope young Mr. Smith is not only suspended but subjected to a very hard hit to his wallet. That could easily have been a career ending injury.
Not me. I'm interested to see how Griffin responds: this is the second straight game in which he's taken a hard foul going to the basket: Wednesday night, Griffin got fouled hard by Perk, early in the first quarter, and played very tentatively afterwards, only scoring five points the rest of the game. And, last night, Griffin only had three points (all three of which were at the line, two of which came on the flagrant), one rebound and, maybe most importantly, did not attempt a field goal, after getting run over by Jason Smith, in what had been a two-possession game at the time, and ended up being decided by seven points. So, basically, after the flagrant, he had all of one point, on one-of-two foul shooting, and one rebound, in a close game. He was completely shook, and that's something that other teams are going to take notice of. If the word on the street is that Griffin can be intimidated, I say hit him until he stops being scared.

Well, actually, that's not completely true. I sort of agree with a fine and suspension but, if I'm Monty Williams, I pay that fine.
 

VF21

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Not me. I'm interested to see how Griffin responds: this is the second straight game in which he's taken a hard foul going to the basket: Wednesday night, Griffin got fouled hard by Perk, early in the first quarter, and played very tentatively afterwards, only scoring five points the rest of the game. And, last night, Griffin only had three points (all three of which were at the line, two of which came on the flagrant), one rebound and, maybe most importantly, did not attempt a field goal, after getting run over by Jason Smith, in what had been a two-possession game at the time, and ended up being decided by seven points. So, basically, after the flagrant, he had all of one point, on one-of-two foul shooting, and one rebound, in a close game. He was completely shook, and that's something that other teams are going to take notice of. If the word on the street is that Griffin can be intimidated, I say hit him until he stops being scared.

Well, actually, that's not completely true. I sort of agree with a fine and suspension but, if I'm Monty Williams, I pay that fine.
I think there are two different things at work here. One, if Griffin can be intimidated by illegal tackles on the court, I think that's a totally different thing than whether or not he can be intimidated by a legitimate foul.

Two, and somewhat related, when James Naismith invented the game of basketball it wasn't supposed to include physical contact. The bad boys of the Pistons were bad enough but what I saw in that clip honestly and truly alarmed me. As was said by the announcer, what if Griffin had been in the air at the time? He could have been seriously injured...and his career could have been ended before it's really had a chance to begin.

I know there are a lot of fans who like the hard hits, etc. but there has to be a line drawn somewhere. Basketball players aren't football players. They're as vulnerable, though, especially when they're blindsided. I watched that clip several times and I wouldn't be surprised if Griffin has bruised ribs and more. Of course he was shook. I would have been totally surprised if he wasn't. What happened to him is NOT a normal part of the game. If the officials and the league don't put an end to this kind of behavior right now, there will come a time when we're recalling the Kermit Washington hit on Rudy Tomjanovich with the comment, "Well, at least he lived."

The idea of targeting star players on the other team is beyond distasteful to me. It's disgusting, disgraceful and an insult to the game itself.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
Blake Griffin, while able to jump over small children (and IT), isn't exactly the toughest cookie in the jar so it's not really surprising that he got shell-shocked after that hit, which, for all intents and purposes, was its purpose. Just like Webb taking out Stockton.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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I think there are two different things at work here. One, if Griffin can be intimidated by illegal tackles on the court, I think that's a totally different thing than whether or not he can be intimidated by a legitimate foul.

Two, and somewhat related, when James Naismith invented the game of basketball it wasn't supposed to include physical contact. The bad boys of the Pistons were bad enough but what I saw in that clip honestly and truly alarmed me. As was said by the announcer, what if Griffin had been in the air at the time? He could have been seriously injured...and his career could have been ended before it's really had a chance to begin.

I know there are a lot of fans who like the hard hits, etc. but there has to be a line drawn somewhere. Basketball players aren't football players. They're as vulnerable, though, especially when they're blindsided. I watched that clip several times and I wouldn't be surprised if Griffin has bruised ribs and more. Of course he was shook. I would have been totally surprised if he wasn't. What happened to him is NOT a normal part of the game. If the officials and the league don't put an end to this kind of behavior right now, there will come a time when we're recalling the Kermit Washington hit on Rudy Tomjanovich with the comment, "Well, at least he lived."

The idea of targeting star players on the other team is beyond distasteful to me. It's disgusting, disgraceful and an insult to the game itself.
When Doctor Naismith created the game of basketball, there wasn't a shot clock, either. Or a three point line, or dunking, or goaltending. I like it better the way it is.

There was a time where there were fights on the court, with relative regularity, sparked by such things as clotheslining a guy on the way to the basket. Some people refer to this (1980's) as the Golden Age of basketball.
 
I love that era. Don't get me wrong, I like hard fouls, I like it when players prevent the and-1 with hard fouls, but what Jason Smith did was not a hard foul, it was a cheap shot that could have caused serious injury. What ticked me off was the way the crowd was cheering and the way Smith was egging the crowd on while on his way to the locker room as if what he did was a legit basketball move.
 

VF21

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I love that era. Don't get me wrong, I like hard fouls, I like it when players prevent the and-1 with hard fouls, but what Jason Smith did was not a hard foul, it was a cheap shot that could have caused serious injury. What ticked me off was the way the crowd was cheering and the way Smith was egging the crowd on while on his way to the locker room as if what he did was a legit basketball move.
Thank you. This is close to what I was attempting to convey. What Smith did has no place on the court.
 

VF21

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SME
When Doctor Naismith created the game of basketball, there wasn't a shot clock, either. Or a three point line, or dunking, or goaltending. I like it better the way it is.

There was a time where there were fights on the court, with relative regularity, sparked by such things as clotheslining a guy on the way to the basket. Some people refer to this (1980's) as the Golden Age of basketball.
I doubt if they're referring to the Golden Age solely because of fights and clotheslining.

You chose to comment only on the first sentence of that paragraph. I don't deny that the game of basketball has evolved and generally have little problem with the majority of the changes. I will still maintain, however, that a line needed to be drawn to prevent as much as possible the potential for career-ending injuries. Someone who basically tries to put someone into the boards is playing hockey not basketball.