[NBA] Comments that don't warrant a thread (JAN)
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iowamcnabb
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Good, the second round coverage has been a joke.
iowamcnabb
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Paris game is on for anyone that didn’t know.
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My only issue with this idea is that the NBA draft is currently only 2 rounds. The TV coverage, if both rounds are now split over a period of 2 days, will be lackluster at best.
This works for the NFL, for example, because the NFL draft is more than 2 rounds, so it makes sense to hold that draft over multiple days, as opposed to trying to squeeze all rounds into a single day, and causing mass chaos.
I just don't see how the NBA draft will be any better when held over multiple days, especially if the current format is going to be kept. Increase the number of rounds, and maybe I'll be more excited about it. But, as it currently stands, I can't see this working.
Well then, it's a good thing I didn't need to update my fantasy roster, or anything </s>
I know that the NBA doesn't have total control over this, but it's wild that they scheduled a game in Paris between two teams that don't have a single French national between the two rosters combined. Like, as near as I can tell, the closest thing to a Frenchman on either team is Jacque Vaughn.
I don't know whether this game was scheduled before or after the draft lottery, but how the hell do you not have the Spurs playing in it?
iowamcnabb
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Currently as constructed the second round is pointless ( televising it that is) They jam all the advertisements into the second round, barely talk about the prospects and then call it a night. My guess is they televise the first round on national television and then maybe move the second round to nba tv for the second round. They could start that show with a big recap of the first round, highlight best available and then finish with the draft itself.
The only problem I have with this is the steroid era was freaking awesome.
The second round is pointless if they are going to allow agents to dictate where players are drafted, tell teams they won't sign 2-ways, and won't allow teams to arrange long term development for their second round picks by limiting them to three 2-ways.
If they want to take it OFF tv entirely, make it a day long behind the scenes thing, with like 10-15 mins for picks and deals to happen, and then just publish the end results at 5pm EST on the day following the TV spectacle of Round One, that might actually make the whole second round more worthwhile.
On the other hand I suspect what they really want is more crash TV when even more guys are left hanging at the end of draft night (the one people will actually tune in for).
LPKingsFan
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Live TV spectacles are lucrative in this day and age of streaming, so I understand what they’re trying to do. I guess they could incorporate plenty of analysis of the prior day’s picks and trades, although personally I prefer consuming that type of content by reading articles or listening to podcasts. Aside from the business standpoint, I wonder if front offices will appreciate being able to catch their breath and re-asses between rounds, or if the better resourced and prepared ones will miss their advantage.
It does seem to me that the second round has taken on some trappings of free agency recently but I can’t say that bothers me too much. The default is for these guys to not receive a guaranteed contract, so I don’t fault them for trying to find the best fit.
It does seem to me that the second round has taken on some trappings of free agency recently but I can’t say that bothers me too much. The default is for these guys to not receive a guaranteed contract, so I don’t fault them for trying to find the best fit.
iowamcnabb
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Any theories on why a team with one elite defender, one rim protector, one plus defender and 2 pretty good defenders is 24th in defensive rating? (Nets)
WowThis is kindof funny -- look at the loss column for the top 11 teams in the Western Conference right now:
LoungeLizard
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Ah yes, trade deadline season. When all the National Media submit their proposals to make the Lakers better. 
iowamcnabb
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Blazers going toe to toe with the Thunder tonight, down just 62 points after 3.
iowamcnabb
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27/23/62 shooting splits for the Blaze. That has to be one of the worst performances in recent memory
Why couldn't that have happened on 12/26 when I was at the game in Portland? Grrr.
The only problem I have with this is the steroid era was freaking awesome.
Well, to each their own I guess!
. I wasn't watching much baseball between 1995 and 2004 so I missed the height of it...But in terms of the league offices pushing an agenda of increased scoring, the two situations do seem similar. Also, in both cases the respective league offices have denied their own role in fostering and supporting a culture of cheating and just put the blame on the players. MLB knew exactly what was going on while promoting the McGwire/Sosa record chase. Bud Selig is a bigger coward for hiding behind a veil of plausible deniability than any of the players that baseball writers have insisted on keeping out of the hall of fame. And the NBA embracing and promoting gambling while holding the keys to end-game score manipulation with free throw shooting should probably be put into the same category.
That chase was amazing to watch as was Bonds's pursuit.Well, to each their own I guess!
But in terms of the league offices pushing an agenda of increased scoring, the two situations do seem similar. Also, in both cases the respective league offices have denied their own role in fostering and supporting a culture of cheating and just put the blame on the players. MLB knew exactly what was going on while promoting the McGwire/Sosa record chase. Bud Selig is a bigger coward for hiding behind a veil of plausible deniability than any of the players that baseball writers have insisted on keeping out of the hall of fame. And the NBA embracing and promoting gambling while holding the keys to end-game score manipulation with free throw shooting should probably be put into the same category.
The league being complicit and then blaming the players was definitely an issue and I DEFINITELY have major issues with all of the leagues today warm embrace of gambling, especially those who have chosen to partner with online gambling sites.
But homeruns and 100+mph fastballs are bad ass and free throws sorta suck.
Ah yes, trade deadline season. When all the National Media submit their proposals to make the Lakers better.
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They've been absolute trash since that game. It's very frustrating (even though I was down in Carmel). I still have high end tickets to see a game that I haven't actually gotten a date for wonder if they'll let me defer lol.
Portland twitter has gone apoplectic on Billups. Crazy thing is they've got a better than Alvin Gentry interim coach in wait - Scotty Brooks is their lead assistant so why the hell haven't they cut the cord on Billups? Weird thing is that media isn't all over this. Not sure if it has something to do with Dame leaving or the current horrid tv deal the Blazers are stuck with (Root Sports has all 82 games).
Whole situation right now just feels sad.
So how bout they trade us Thybulle and Grant.
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The quickest answer is Cam Thomas.
To delve deeper, Claxton is too slight as their only big in the starting lineup. Their poor offense often puts their defense in bad spots. Dinwiddie isn't good. Cam Johnson isn't known for defense either. Mikal Bridges is potentially one of their best wing defenders, but they have turned him into an offensive focal point so he is less efficient on offense (poorer shooting and more turnover prone) and now his defense has dropped off. DFS is fine overall but not some elite, turnover generating defender, just a solid dude (nothing wrong with that) so he isn't vaulting this squads defense up the charts.
Theoretically Ben Simmons helps a lot with some of these issues but we all know he's unreliable so there they sit in mediocrity without their own pick this draft so tanking isn't a viable option. Weird situation for sure, it'd be cool if we could pry Mikal away but we don't really have anything that makes sense for them
I feel like there's more blowouts these days than ever before. I don't recall teams ever going down by 40, 50 or 60 points a decade plus ago.
Maybe the stats don't back up my random observations but it just feels like close NBA games are a lot rarer these days than they were in the past.
Maybe the stats don't back up my random observations but it just feels like close NBA games are a lot rarer these days than they were in the past.
Padrino
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This is something I've noted this season, as well. I'm really not a big fan of how the explosion of incendiary offense across the NBA means that there are a few too many games every week where there is a stark mismatch in who's hot and who's not. If you're scorching from three and your opponent is clanking everything off the rim, it's a recipe for a 30+ point blowout. On its own, we could just say "that's the way it goes." But with the NBA working so hard to disallow defenders from being physical without fouling, there are so few ways to make shooters uncomfortable to try and close the gap on a night when you're not hitting three's. It's never been more of a make-or-miss league, and with teams averaging 30-40 three-pointers a game, we can expect more and more of these kinds of massive blowouts that are not at all interesting to watch.
Does not help that when a team is down they just start 3 hunting and when they are having an off night while the other team cant miss either.
Even that stupid Hornets loss I feel like if we had just settled for getting good 2 point shots the final five minutes we never lose grasp of that one.
Even that stupid Hornets loss I feel like if we had just settled for getting good 2 point shots the final five minutes we never lose grasp of that one.
Agreed and while they don't need to go back to 80 or 90 point games, they also don't need teams to score 130 in order to be exciting. There are cases where this style of basketball lends itself to exciting games and exciting moments. Last years crazy game against the Clippers comes to mind and Keegan almost shooting a record amount of 3s was great as well.
What actually makes games exciting on a regular basis are close, down to the wire games. If your team is involved in a nail biter where the final score is 99-98, that is much more exciting than winning 135-125. I am much more invested in games like the Kings last game against the Magic than I am during games where the offense is cooking and they dominate the Hornets.
That's what makes the Kings old playoff games against the Lakers, Jazz and Mavericks so great. I definitely remember how dialed into those games I was and it had nothing to do with the amount of points being scored and everything to do with not knowing who was going to take the W until the final moments.
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