Mo Evans Next Year?

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Diehard Jim

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It will be interesting to see if Mo decides to sign with the kings next year or not.

I am wondering if he will wait to see what Cat does.

I just feel bad for the guy, he basically plays his heart out always and was playing some serious minutes than the last 2 games he has basically been relegated to the bench warmer status of Tag.

17 mins against the clips and 7 mins against the rockets.

and meanwhile Bibby and Mobley are racking up 42+ min games.

I just think that Mo would be a great backup to play the 2 guard and have Mobley or Bibby play the 1 and get them some more rest. These guys are playing way to many minutes.

I am hoping that the Kings can get Mo to come back for next season, but I am sure it will have something to do with his playing time.
 
Playing guys extended minutes b/c he is comfortable with them is one of Adelman's flaws, imho, as is his seeming disinterest in developing younger players.

Still, since CWebb has joined the 76ers, I've taken a "glass is half full" approach with Adelman's coaching. If you think he's stubborn, bear witness to the Raptors hitting for a record 21 threes against the Sixers while the Sixers never once during the game changed their defensive "scheme" to take away the three point line.
 
I have my doubts Cat will be back. Of course on the other hand I have my doubts if Mo is actually a starting quality OG, so if Cat goes don't know that we'd leave the position solely ion the hands of Mo/Maritn.

Mo is just erratic enough that we should be able toa void having anybody drop a big contract on him, but if we have ti burn more than the LLE to bring him back may be tough given all of the work we'll probably be doing over the summer.
 
Diehard Jim said:
It will be interesting to see if Mo decides to sign with the kings next year or not.

I am wondering if he will wait to see what Cat does.

I just feel bad for the guy, he basically plays his heart out always and was playing some serious minutes than the last 2 games he has basically been relegated to the bench warmer status of Tag.

17 mins against the clips and 7 mins against the rockets.

and meanwhile Bibby and Mobley are racking up 42+ min games.

I just think that Mo would be a great backup to play the 2 guard and have Mobley or Bibby play the 1 and get them some more rest. These guys are playing way to many minutes.

I am hoping that the Kings can get Mo to come back for next season, but I am sure it will have something to do with his playing time.
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From what his dad told Kingsgurl and 1kingzfan earlier this year, Mo Evans would love to stay with the Kings.

You make it sound as though Evans has a player option, but I don't believe that's true. He has a one-year contract with the Kings. If he is offered another contract by Petrie, I'm willing to bet he'll jump at the chance to stay in Sacramento.
 
I want to keep Mo for sure... and i know he said he would like to stay with the kings but maybe he's been having second thoughts about staying considering his lack of minutes of late
 
sloter said:
For Mo: I say keep him.
For Cuttino: I say dump him.
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I like Evans more than Cat too. Mo is only 26, and if he can work on his game this summer (shot), I can see him becoming the well-rounded, athletic, full package type player the Kings badly need. Plus he's bound to be much cheaper than Cat.
 
Mo's at the level and point in his career that its hard not to see him following the money, wherever it might be. Longest guaranteed contrat, most money, has to weigh heavily for a guy who's been out in the wilderness and wants to establish himself as a long term NBA player + earn millions.
 
What does this lineup look like to people?

Brad Miller
Stromile Swift
Peja Stojakovic
Mo Evans
Mike Bibby

Enough balance of offense, defense, finnese and athleticism?
 
LPKingsFan said:
What does this lineup look like to people?

Brad Miller
Stromile Swift
Peja Stojakovic
Mo Evans
Mike Bibby

Enough balance of offense, defense, finnese and athleticism?
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Perhaps. But how to acquire the second guy on that list, who is going to be pursued for big $$$ this offseason, is the kicker. Also not sure about Mo -- might be up to it, might not. He still has a lot of nights where he doesn't do much. Do agree if we keep all three of the Bibby/Peja/Miller combo though that that's what the other guys have to look like, even if its not those two (Swift/Evans). Need everybody else to be athletic, defensive, tough because if Peja/Mike/Brad are the core three we are all kinds of soft in those areas.
 
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The Kings core for the time being is those three guys, and the other two starters really need to be athletic defenders to compensate.

Now, I figured that the Kings would have to spend $$$ on one position, and cheap at the other, although that's purely arbitrary decision on my part. I also figured that the Kings would spend money on a PF rather than a SG because:
1. I sincerely doubt that Mobley, Evans, and Bobby will all be brought back next year.
2. Bobby and Evans can both be had on the cheap
3. Athletic big men are hard to come by
4. Songaila is a free agent if he does not invoke his own option, and we've established that he's not well suited for what the Kings need off the bench, although that may change with whatever new dynamic situates itself
5. While Swift may likely cost more than the MLE, which is all the Kings have to offer, the Philly trade brought in numerous flexible contracts to ship to Memphis should Swift threaten to leave without any compensation.

Who do you think would be better suited to these roles that could
1. be had by one of the exceptions (MLE or LLE)
2. can be brought in through a sign and trade for some package of Corliss, Thomas, etc
 
VF21 said:
From what his dad told Kingsgurl and 1kingzfan earlier this year, Mo Evans would love to stay with the Kings.

You make it sound as though Evans has a player option, but I don't believe that's true. He has a one-year contract with the Kings. If he is offered another contract by Petrie, I'm willing to bet he'll jump at the chance to stay in Sacramento.
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I agree...I think Sac is a very good place for Mo and I'm waiting to see if they do offer him a contract, they'd be crazy not to IMO
 
Maybe it's just b/c I haven't seen 'Mo actually play that much live, but I just don't see him as a starting SG for a team competing for an NBA championship. Yes, he brings attributes to the table that we need, but I just don't think his outside shot is consistent enough to make him a legitimate threat in this offense (although in some games he has certainly shown flashes). I love his athleticism and hustle, and maybe all he needs is more court time.

As for Swift, he we can get a guy like that, then I think we'd want to keep Darius -- he knows the offense, and he's a solid backup PF. He's not really starting quality, especially not alongside Miller, but I have my doubts about Swift's ability to really fit into the Kings offense. Granted, I haven't seen him play much, but someone with that sort of athletic talent should have, in my estimation, have garnered much better stats/playing time at this point in his career than a guy like Swift has.
 
Bobby is Already signed for next year, but he is an undersized 2 guard if the kings decide to go that way.

Songalia is not a free agent next year

The kings do not have the type of money to go under the cap to sign a big $$ player.
Petrie will have to pull off a sign and trade.

Personally I think Songalia is a good power forward and just needs to stay out of foul trouble.

Evans is going to be interesting. I can personally see him starting, each and every game he has started he has excelled, at least in one area. This is a kid who is still young and is only going to get better if he continues to work hard on his game.

The only issue I have with evans is that sometimes he tends to try and break down his defender instead of move the ball around and get himself an easier shot.

But this is also the case with Mobley and Peja right now.
 
Mo will get offers... probably at least a few teams will make serious runs at an athletic player with his kind of energy, how hight the bidding will go is anyones guess but I would not be supprised to see some under cap team cough up more money than Petrie thinks he is worth.
 
Diehard Jim said:
Bobby is Already signed for next year, but he is an undersized 2 guard if the kings decide to go that way.

Songalia is not a free agent next year

The kings do not have the type of money to go under the cap to sign a big $$ player.
Petrie will have to pull off a sign and trade.

Personally I think Songalia is a good power forward and just needs to stay out of foul trouble.

Evans is going to be interesting. I can personally see him starting, each and every game he has started he has excelled, at least in one area. This is a kid who is still young and is only going to get better if he continues to work hard on his game.

The only issue I have with evans is that sometimes he tends to try and break down his defender instead of move the ball around and get himself an easier shot.

But this is also the case with Mobley and Peja right now.
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Songaila can be a free agent as he has a player option for next year.
 
I have no doubt that this summer that Mo's best contract offer will come from the Kings and he'll sign it and stay here.
 
There's a reason Mo was available to us this summer after kicking around several camps. Everyone can see that he has athleticism and can jump out of the gym but he lacks dribbling skills to be a guard, shooting skills (his technique is unique) to be a SG and is too small to be a good swing man. Other than that I love the guy!! But I just don't see him as a starting SG, perhaps his most natural position. Now, coming off the bench with Bobby and Darius and company may be his best role to provide energy, defense, rebounding and enthusiasm.
 
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing Cat gone this summer, in a sign & trade if Petrie can get something for him, or just let him walk if not.

I would hope we could keep Evans for the LLE; if not then we may have to try to keep Cat.

With Darius, I believe we can offer him up to the MLE without it actually counting as using the MLE; in other words, we would still have it to offer a free agent.

But one thing's for sure: we have plenty of pieces to trade. RealGM will be swarming with Kings fans this offseason.
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I have a feeling that no matter how much we all speculate...none of us are gonna have seen whats gonna end up happening with the kings this offseason
 
Well I think it was pretty clear in that Houston game that size is definately a problem for the team we have now. Obviously that was without Brad, but even so Skinner is undersized at the center position and Tag hasn't really given much reason to put him out on the court. And Brad isn't very athletic either so his defensive impact is limited, even at 7 feet. With Webber limited by injury we saw the Kings getting burned inside again and again because they lacked the quickness to rotate and cut off the lane. So size and athleticism at the PF position I think is still the number 1 priority. I hope we can retain Skinner and Songaila as backup forwards because they bring a lot of smarts and energy off the bench.

I'm impressed with Kenny Thomas when he takes it to the hoop but too often he seems content to take the outside shot. No doubt he's a good energy guy off the bench who can score a lot of points in limited minutes, but I still think he and Corliss are expendable if they can be used in a trade to bring in a PF with some size and quickness. I like Corliss off the bench too (especially after he saved us in that Clippers game at the end) but Songaila and Skinner seem to fit our style of play better.

As for Mo, I think it should be a priority to keep him on the Kings. He's new to the league so he likely hasn't hit the peak of his abilities yet as an NBA player and what he's shown so far has been very promising. Yeah the outside shot has been iffy, but he gets the offensive boards and he takes it up strong - which is a rare skill around Sacramento these days. I don't know if he's a starter yet, but I think with BJax back, we don't need as much scoring from the 2 guard position. The Kings were averaging over 100 points a game for years with Christie there and he was rarely good for more than 15 points. (There were those rare games when he would explode on offense though. Always loved those games.) So anyway, I think Mobley could fit given a summer to regroup and find the offensive flow, but mostly I think we'd be better off keeping Mo and looking for other options at SG.

But as I said before, I think the PF situation is a much more immediate problem. If we can address that in the offseason, than I think we'll be in good shape for next year, whatever happens with Mo and Mobley.
 
VF21 said:
From what his dad told Kingsgurl and 1kingzfan earlier this year, Mo Evans would love to stay with the Kings.

You make it sound as though Evans has a player option, but I don't believe that's true. He has a one-year contract with the Kings. If he is offered another contract by Petrie, I'm willing to bet he'll jump at the chance to stay in Sacramento.
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At that point, he said he was having the time of his life (and his Dad certainly was!)
However, I agree with Brick, he will go where the money is, he really doesn't have a choice there.
 
Mo's the kind of guy that we need, but there's no need to overpay a player of his caliber, even with his athleticism and energy. I agree with Brick, though; why leave a place where he knows success is present along with playing time.
 
Rowdyone said:
There's a reason Mo was available to us this summer after kicking around several camps. Everyone can see that he has athleticism and can jump out of the gym but he lacks dribbling skills to be a guard, shooting skills (his technique is unique) to be a SG and is too small to be a good swing man. Other than that I love the guy!! But I just don't see him as a starting SG, perhaps his most natural position. Now, coming off the bench with Bobby and Darius and company may be his best role to provide energy, defense, rebounding and enthusiasm.
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But his is where we run into problems, especially with Darius and Mo off the bench. Historically, Adelman's Kings work best with three or four multi-positional players coming off the bench (Bobby at 1/2, Hedo at 2/3/4, Pollard at 4/5 for example). You just admitted that Mo is limited to the 2 spot, and I've talked here before how Darius is better suited to starting since he's limited to the 4 spot.

Ideally, the Kings would keep either Bobby or Cuttino for the backup 1/2 spot, then either start Mo or find someone new for the backup swingman Hedo/JJ role. Skinner I think fits in well as the backup 4/5. But where does that leave Songaila and Thomas??

And Songaila has a player option according to hoopshype, whether one finds them reliable or not , I don't know.
 
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