Mo Evans' future

[Diabeticwonder]

This may be a bit premature, but I'm sure that the Kings brass has already pondered this. If Cat exercises his option and tests the free agent market then what about not pursuing him in favor of resiginging Evans for the purpose of him being the starting 2 guard. It would free up a ton of cash to throw at other players or to even keep the likes of Peja and Bobby not to mention what Mo would bring to the table that Cat doesn't. Sure, Cat is a more lethal offensive option than Mo, but Mo makes up for that in many other ways. I'm just not sure that Cat is worth the 7-8 mill (at least) that he will look for on the open market.

 

[Kingsgurl]

Technically, it wouldn't 'free up a bunch of cash to pursue other FA's' but it would shave that money off the cap overage.

 

[KP]

Mo looks promising but we need to see a lot more for a lot longer then we have. Starters have to be consistantly good to start on this team, just last week he was playing like crap. Don't get me wrong he's been awesome overall this year but he's still got a long way to go... maybe if he was on the Bobcats or something...

 

[SacTownKid]

It is certainly something to ponder b/c in about Dec. I remember NBA Fastbreak discussing how Mo would get some nice offers in the offseason. Hopefully we can get them both back or at least don't lose them for nothing.

 

[Joker112]

Technically, it wouldn't 'free up a bunch of cash to pursue other FA's' but it would shave that money off the cap overage.

What it would do is enable the Kings to use Mobley and another player is a sign and trade to upgrade at a different position. Perhaps Sharif Abdur Rahim? This draft is also supposed to be one of the best point guard drafts ever. How about a 2005/2006 lineup of:

PG: Bibby/ Bobby/ Rookie PG(Would replace Bobby in 2006)
SG: Evans/Martin
SF: Peja/Corliss
PF: Free Agent Signing/Thomas
C: Miller/Skinner

Songaila will most likely opt out of his last year for more money. It would also be advantageous to try and move Ostertag for just about anything(a second round pick or sliding up a few spots in the first round).

 

[Bricklayer]

What it would do is enable the Kings to use Mobley and another player is a sign and trade to upgrade at a different position. Perhaps Sharif Abdur Rahim? This draft is also supposed to be one of the best point guard drafts ever. How about a 2005/2006 lineup of:

PG: Bibby/ Bobby/ Rookie PG(Would replace Bobby in 2006)
SG: Evans/Martin
SF: Peja/Corliss
PF: Free Agent Signing/Thomas
C: Miller/Skinner

Songaila will most likely opt out of his last year for more money. It would also be advantageous to try and move Ostertag for just about anything(a second round pick or sliding up a few spots in the first round).

I'll pass on that lineup barring some other significant moves. Ticket to 50 win #7 seed first-round outdom. I'm not 100% anti- the idea of Mo being a starter, but you need some other significant moves to make it worthwhile.

 

[Alacron]

Songaila will most likely opt out of his last year for more money. It would also be advantageous to try and move Ostertag for just about anything(a second round pick or sliding up a few spots in the first round).

I hope we keep Darius. He seems to make almost no mistakes. His outside shot is as good as Miller's, he's an excellent one on one defender, and he's always surprising me by doing things I didn't know he was capable of.

Since we've had him two years, I believe we have "Early Bird" rights on him meaning that even though we're over the cap, we can offer him an amount equal to the MLE. I doubt any team will offer him much more than that, and he'll choose to stay with us.

Moving Ostertag = GOOD IDEA! Nothing against the guy, but what good is he if not playing? Trade him to a team in dire need of a big body in exchange for expiring contracts, or move up in the draft and get a nice rookie.
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[BobbyJ_for3!]

mo evans isnt ready to start consistently right now, but by next season he most certainly could be ready to. and if we're talking about next years lineup, why not a sign & trade involving mobley? maybe a role player and a draft pick. altho im not sure if that would work money wise, and it prolly wouldnt, but im sure petrie could figure it out. i sure would like to have an ice 10/11 overall pick or something. maybe im dreaming, but thas always fun to do.

anyway, mo could deffinetly start. what im thinkin tho is if mobley doesnt re-sign and we make a couple deals we could prolly pick up a nice free agent SG and keep thomas (more dreaming makes me think Ray Allen). I dunno, just a thought....as all these posts are, cause we hav no idea what wil lhappen. for all we know(and as well all hope/pray) the kings will win the championship and mobley will want to stay and try to repeat, plus we could pick up a nice rookie or w/e....

ya...

 

[mbkings10]

I think Abdur Rahim wouldn't be a bad option, but how about trading Thomas, and a Williamson for somebody like a Carlos Boozer. Boozer seems unhappy in Utah, and Utah was trying to trade him before the deadline. Boozer would bring a little better rebounding than Thomas, better scoring, and a scrappy player at the power foward position. Plus he can score in the paint and he's not afraid to give up a hard foul (ask mo evans). We might be loosing some off the bench by shipping off Williamson, but i can see their line up next year being:
Pg: Bibby, Jackson, Rookie
Sg: Mobley, Evans
Sf: Stojakovic, Martin
Pf: Boozer, Songalia
C: Miller, Skinner

 

[Alacron]

anyway, mo could deffinetly start. what im thinkin tho is if mobley doesnt re-sign and we make a couple deals we could prolly pick up a nice free agent SG and keep thomas (more dreaming makes me think Ray Allen). stay and try to repeat, plus we could pick up a nice rookie or w/e....

Even though Mobley's opting out, that doesn't "free up" that $6.3 Million for us to throw at free agents. Even with Cat and Darius' contracts off the books, next season we'll be about $9 Million over the salary cap. If Mobley leaves, he's gone, and we can't offer anyone more than the $5 Million MLE.

mo evans isnt ready to start consistently right now, but by next season he most certainly could be ready to. and if we're talking about next years lineup, why not a sign & trade involving mobley?

I think that would be our only option if we don't want to lose Mobley and get nothing in return. Let's say we give him a nice $8 Million contract, we can trade him for a $7-9 Million guy who can really help us. That would work, right?
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[iheartBrad]

the two id be most sad to see leave (besides the obvious Brad and Mike) would be Darius and Mo...i just don't want to see them in another uniform

 

[Bricklayer]

Here you go -- the Bricklayer Pipedream Anti-Kings Never-Be-Soft-Again Offseason Plan

1) KEEP: Skinner, Evans (resign), Bibby, Jackson (pick up option), Martin, Ostertag
2) Let go: House, Daniels
3) Potential Trade Pieces: 1st round pick (#20 or so); future picks; Mobley (sign and trade); Thomas; Williamson; Songaila (sign and trade); Peja and Miller (see below)

Move 1: Trade Peja, Brad and whatever package of picks or Dariuses necessary to get Kevin Garnett
Move 2: Trade Mobley (most likely + whatever sweetener) for Harpring to balance Utah's lineup = bring back a tough SF replacement for us
(Move 2a: before making that move explore Artest + a bad Indiana contract for Mobley and Thomas/Corliss or some such).
Move 3: Pursue all of these FAs with the mid-level exception: Kwame Brown, Reggie Evans, Gadzuric, Dalembert, Chandler, Swift (right!) Marshall -- chance that Brown, Gadzuric or Marshall may actually be signable with the exception (lets say Brown for kicks)
Move 4: assuming we get Brown (or whoever) pursue one of the other players on that list via a sign and trade for our remaining tradeable pieces.
Move 5: depending on results of previous moves, pursue free agents Matt Barnes (physical, scrappy) , Jon Barry (clutch, scrappy), Earl Watson (defense, too expensive) and maybe even Kyle Korver (won't get, but just to replace shooting)
Move 6: if somehow we kept out draft pick through all that, 12th man

return to camp with lineup of:

C- Skinner
PF- Garnett
SF- Harpring (or Artest)
OG- Evans
PG- Bibby

6th- Jackson
7th- Swift (or Chandler, or Evans, or Dalembert)
8th- Brown (or Marshall, or Gadzuric)
9th- Martin
10th- Ostertag
11th- Barnes
12th- Barry (or pick or whoever)


Move 7: Beat the crap out of everybody we face (even if we don't always win). Pick the teeth up off the floor after we are done.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Well, it's hard to post after Brick's masterpiece. But I'll say this after a lot of thinking about the offseason: I really find it hard to beleive that Evans Mobley and Jackson will all be back next year. The frontcourt for me is even harder to figureout. There's still a lot of time to see how things settle down the rest of the season. There's no denying it though, the offseason is going to be VERY interesting.

 

[B-52]

Evans has earned his right to be here, he's young, tough and his shot will get better. The one I'm not sure about is Mobley. His offensive is O.K. His defence is not as good, and right now I think we need to grow more on the defensive end. Mo has proven himself in Italy and now in the NBA. If RA continues to use him in the rotation it will be nothing but good. Keep Mo.

 

[SLAB]

I like Bricks idea.

 

[Heuge]

Move 1: Trade Peja, Brad and whatever package of picks or Dariuses necessary to get Kevin Garnett

There is nothing wrong with dreaming, right?

 

[Alacron]

Here you go -- the Bricklayer Pipedream Anti-Kings Never-Be-Soft-Again Offseason Plan

...random points in no particular order

8) Watson is too good to be a third stringer behind Bibby and Bobby, and considering the price difference, I'd just as soon keep House.
1) Mobley for Harpring... brilliant!
4) "Pursue" Matt Barnes? I don't think that'd be much of a pursuit. He wants to come back so bad we proply wouldn't have to pay him.
7) That lineup looks pretty sweet. But since when does Petrie put together an "all-tough" team?
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[HndsmCelt]

Here you go -- the Bricklayer Pipedream Anti-Kings Never-Be-Soft-Again Offseason Plan

1) KEEP: Skinner, Evans (resign), Bibby, Jackson (pick up option), Martin, Ostertag
2) Let go: House, Daniels
3) Potential Trade Pieces: 1st round pick (#20 or so); future picks; Mobley (sign and trade); Thomas; Williamson; Songaila (sign and trade); Peja and Miller (see below)

Move 1: Trade Peja, Brad and whatever package of picks or Dariuses necessary to get Kevin Garnett
Move 2: Trade Mobley (most likely + whatever sweetener) for Harpring to balance Utah's lineup = bring back a tough SF replacement for us
(Move 2a: before making that move explore Artest + a bad Indiana contract for Mobley and Thomas/Corliss or some such).
Move 3: Pursue all of these FAs with the mid-level exception: Kwame Brown, Reggie Evans, Gadzuric, Dalembert, Chandler, Swift (right!) Marshall -- chance that Brown, Gadzuric or Marshall may actually be signable with the exception (lets say Brown for kicks)
Move 4: assuming we get Brown (or whoever) pursue one of the other players on that list via a sign and trade for our remaining tradeable pieces.
Move 5: depending on results of previous moves, pursue free agents Matt Barnes (physical, scrappy) , Jon Barry (clutch, scrappy), Earl Watson (defense, too expensive) and maybe even Kyle Korver (won't get, but just to replace shooting)
Move 6: if somehow we kept out draft pick through all that, 12th man

return to camp with lineup of:

C- Skinner
PF- Garnett
SF- Harpring (or Artest)
OG- Evans
PG- Bibby

6th- Jackson
7th- Swift (or Chandler, or Evans, or Dalembert)
8th- Brown (or Marshall, or Gadzuric)
9th- Martin
10th- Ostertag
11th- Barnes
12th- Barry (or pick or whoever)


Move 7: Beat the crap out of everybody we face (even if we don't always win). Pick the teeth up off the floor after we are done.

Pipe Dream? MONDO Bowl pipe dream... looks good on paper but not exactly a "finess" line up.... Planning on bringing Sloan to coach this roster? After all he would be the guy to bring out the... eh.... well... for lack of a beter word BEST... in them.

 

[Alacron]

Oh, and Brick, you forgot to fire Adelman and get Jerry Sloan.

EDIT: Heh, Celt beat me to it.
~~

 

[Joel]

If we're posting dream rosters, lets go with this:

PG: Hinrich (for Mobley S&T + Songaila + Bibby)
SG: Evans
SF: Artest (For Peja)
PF: KG (For Miller + Draft Pick + Thomas + Jackson)
C: Chandler (Part of Bibby Deal)

Bench
PG: Jaric (MLE - could start) / Eddie House
SG: Freddy Jones: Part of Artest Deal
SF: Corliss / Matt Barnes
PF: Alan Henderson (Vet Min)
C: Skinner

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

If we're posting dream rosters, lets go with this:

PG: Hinrich (for Mobley S&T + Songaila + Bibby)
SG: Evans
SF: Artest (For Peja)
PF: KG (For Miller + Draft Pick + Thomas + Jackson)
C: Chandler (Part of Bibby Deal)

Bench
PG: Jaric (MLE - could start) / Eddie House
SG: Freddy Jones: Part of Artest Deal
SF: Corliss / Matt Barnes
PF: Alan Henderson (Vet Min)
C: Skinner

This is the worst 'dream' I've ever heard of...why the hell would you want Chandler and Artest in the first place...and Hinrich is good, but not worth flippin' 3 starters. Anyways...oh, and also, why do people still think that Rahim would do anything for the Kings, he's not the same player he once was, and he's coming off injuries.

 

[iheartBrad]

^its his dream team let him have it

 

[love_them_kings]

I'll go with Brick's line up as well! Have to admit, got a little nervous when I saw trading Miller and Peja in the first part of the post, but hey, when I saw who we picked up I calmed right down & started looking online for championship tickets ... if not basketball, maybe we could play hockey or something, although those guys might be dangerous with sticks in their hands...

 

[Folsom Al]

Bright, very-very Bright !!!

With lotsa money ... mucho dinero ... taxan okane (sp-japanese) ... mirami ang pera (sp-tagalog) ... boo-gobs benjamins !!!

 

[bozzwell]

Yes, the future is bright for Mo. No need to rush anything. I am very impressed by how both Brad and Mo got to NBA: undrafted, bounced around teams in Europe and NBA summer camps until they got their chance to shine. If Mo continues to improve, who knows he may as well become a starter. Not right now. Right now we need him to do BJax's thing - come of the bench and mix it in with his energy and enthusiasm.

 

[mbkings10]

Those are some interesting trades, but I still say what Boozer to the Kings for Thomas and Williamson. Or maybe a mix of Thomas, Williamson, sign and trade mobley for Boozer and Harpring. Win, Win for both teams. Jazz get some depth and a number one scorer in Mobley, Kings get a good perimeter shooter in Harpring, plus the physical play of Boozer. What do you think?

 

[VF21]

Here you go -- the Bricklayer Pipedream Anti-Kings Never-Be-Soft-Again Offseason Plan

1) KEEP: Skinner, Evans (resign), Bibby, Jackson (pick up option), Martin, Ostertag
2) Let go: House, Daniels
3) Potential Trade Pieces: 1st round pick (#20 or so); future picks; Mobley (sign and trade); Thomas; Williamson; Songaila (sign and trade); Peja and Miller (see below)

Move 1: Trade Peja, Brad and whatever package of picks or Dariuses necessary to get Kevin Garnett
Move 2: Trade Mobley (most likely + whatever sweetener) for Harpring to balance Utah's lineup = bring back a tough SF replacement for us
(Move 2a: before making that move explore Artest + a bad Indiana contract for Mobley and Thomas/Corliss or some such).
Move 3: Pursue all of these FAs with the mid-level exception: Kwame Brown, Reggie Evans, Gadzuric, Dalembert, Chandler, Swift (right!) Marshall -- chance that Brown, Gadzuric or Marshall may actually be signable with the exception (lets say Brown for kicks)
Move 4: assuming we get Brown (or whoever) pursue one of the other players on that list via a sign and trade for our remaining tradeable pieces.
Move 5: depending on results of previous moves, pursue free agents Matt Barnes (physical, scrappy) , Jon Barry (clutch, scrappy), Earl Watson (defense, too expensive) and maybe even Kyle Korver (won't get, but just to replace shooting)
Move 6: if somehow we kept out draft pick through all that, 12th man

return to camp with lineup of:

C- Skinner
PF- Garnett
SF- Harpring (or Artest)
OG- Evans
PG- Bibby

6th- Jackson
7th- Swift (or Chandler, or Evans, or Dalembert)
8th- Brown (or Marshall, or Gadzuric)
9th- Martin
10th- Ostertag
11th- Barnes
12th- Barry (or pick or whoever)


Move 7: Beat the crap out of everybody we face (even if we don't always win). Pick the teeth up off the floor after we are done.

Whoooooooooooo! I have mentioned the potential to acquire Garnett to several people in the last week. My comments were pretty ethereal. Yours, Brick, have really put substance to the proposal. I think I'll print this out and save it.

 

[bbb]

Here you go -- the Bricklayer Pipedream Anti-Kings Never-Be-Soft-Again Offseason Plan

1) KEEP: Skinner, Evans (resign), Bibby, Jackson (pick up option), Martin, Ostertag
2) Let go: House, Daniels
3) Potential Trade Pieces: 1st round pick (#20 or so); future picks; Mobley (sign and trade); Thomas; Williamson; Songaila (sign and trade); Peja and Miller (see below)

Move 1: Trade Peja, Brad and whatever package of picks or Dariuses necessary to get Kevin Garnett
Move 2: Trade Mobley (most likely + whatever sweetener) for Harpring to balance Utah's lineup = bring back a tough SF replacement for us
(Move 2a: before making that move explore Artest + a bad Indiana contract for Mobley and Thomas/Corliss or some such).
Move 3: Pursue all of these FAs with the mid-level exception: Kwame Brown, Reggie Evans, Gadzuric, Dalembert, Chandler, Swift (right!) Marshall -- chance that Brown, Gadzuric or Marshall may actually be signable with the exception (lets say Brown for kicks)
Move 4: assuming we get Brown (or whoever) pursue one of the other players on that list via a sign and trade for our remaining tradeable pieces.
Move 5: depending on results of previous moves, pursue free agents Matt Barnes (physical, scrappy) , Jon Barry (clutch, scrappy), Earl Watson (defense, too expensive) and maybe even Kyle Korver (won't get, but just to replace shooting)
Move 6: if somehow we kept out draft pick through all that, 12th man

return to camp with lineup of:

C- Skinner
PF- Garnett
SF- Harpring (or Artest)
OG- Evans
PG- Bibby

6th- Jackson
7th- Swift (or Chandler, or Evans, or Dalembert)
8th- Brown (or Marshall, or Gadzuric)
9th- Martin
10th- Ostertag
11th- Barnes
12th- Barry (or pick or whoever)


Move 7: Beat the crap out of everybody we face (even if we don't always win). Pick the teeth up off the floor after we are done.

I would take that trade in a heartbear...we would finally get some toughness instead of our perenially weak roster...I doubt the T-Wolves would ever give up on Garnett, unless he ends up in the middle of a way-too-expensive contract and can't jump or run up and down the court (sound familiar?).

 

[xrzn]

I would take that trade in a heartbear...we would finally get some toughness instead of our perenially weak roster...I doubt the T-Wolves would ever give up on Garnett, unless he ends up in the middle of a way-too-expensive contract and can't jump or run up and down the court (sound familiar?).

Why would the Kings want to pickup another big contract when the Kings just got rid of one?

 

[Bricklayer]

Why would the Kings want to pickup another big contract when the Kings just got rid of one?

Nothing at all wrong with a big contract as long as the player is worth it.