[MLB] MLB 2025

I hope a deferred payment driven lockout kills the entire sport.

Would suit me fine, lol. I think there should at least be a legislative review regarding removing MLB's anti-trust exemption unless the league does something to scale back the price creep of ticket prices and exclusive media rights deals with cable networks.
 
Take that, Shohei.

He’ll take a 2nd consecutive World Series trophy and ring, thank you very much! 🥳 And most likely back-to-back NL regular season MVP’s, too.

I love that you sore loser Giants fans have to endure the torture of my Dodgers winning back-to-back titles, their 3rd World Series title in the past 6 years (and 5th WS appearance in 9 years).

Now you understand and feel what we Dodgers fans went through from 2010-2014 when you Giants won 3 in 5 years and seemingly had the most meaningful breaks go your way, too.

It must really suck to deal with the fact that the Dodgers now lead the all-time head-to-head series (including playoffs) and just tonight took the lead with 9 World Series titles to 8 with the potential for a three-peat in play. 🤩

GO BLUE!
 
A lot of baseball fans hated watching the Giants win 3 in 5 years. A lot more fans hated seeing the Yankees win 27 in 86 years (with 40 appearances through 2009).

I think you guys will be able to get over it.
True. While I dislike seeing the Giants arch rival hoist the trophy AGAIN, I can at least admit you all have some likable guys on the team. Hopefully Buster can work his magic and make us competitive again. Baseball is better when the Giants and Dodgers are duking it out for pennants. Congrats.
 
True. While I dislike seeing the Giants arch rival hoist the trophy AGAIN, I can at least admit you all have some likable guys on the team. Hopefully Buster can work his magic and make us competitive again. Baseball is better when the Giants and Dodgers are duking it out for pennants. Congrats.

Totally agree.

FWIW, both our fan bases both got robbed in 2021 when the Giants and Dodgers won 107 and 106 respectively. That should have been the NLCS and a 7-game series rather than the 5-game series we got instead. IDC if the teams were in the same division. They posted the two best records in the league. By a cushion of 6 and 7 games over the 3rd best regular season team.

For the first and only time the Giants and Dodgers met in the postseason — we all deserved better. Hopefully we get to see that matchup again someday soon.
 
In terms of entertainment factor in games 6 and 7, name a better World Series. For that matter, given that game 3 went 18 innings, name a better World Series games 3-7. I don't think one exists.

We just got a hell of a show, whether it came out the way you wanted or not.

This series was super stressful for both Dodgers and Jays fans, that’s for sure. I couldn’t take much more!

There have definitely been some really exciting World Series in the past, but you’re right — it is hard to cite a better one

Games 3, 6, and 7 were about as dramatic, exciting and stressful as the game gets.
 
A lot of baseball fans hated watching the Giants win 3 in 5 years. A lot more fans hated seeing the Yankees win 27 in 86 years (with 40 appearances through 2009).

I think you guys will be able to get over it.
Oh, I definitely will get over it; I'm not at all concerned about that! But, yes, as @LoungeLizard indicated, it was a great series. Either team could've won at the end of the day, it truly was that close. I can't wait to resume the Giants-Dodgers rivalry as NL West powerhouses, just like how it always should be!
 
True. While I dislike seeing the Giants arch rival hoist the trophy AGAIN, I can at least admit you all have some likable guys on the team. Hopefully Buster can work his magic and make us competitive again. Baseball is better when the Giants and Dodgers are duking it out for pennants. Congrats.
I mean...Kershaw was always likeable...whenever he gave up a late game tying home run or game ending home run...:p:p:p.
Seriously, though...great pitcher who just had some crappy luck when it came to postseason success.
Also, minus a few, yes, the Dodgers do have some likeable folks.
 
That series was one for the ages and the ratings are showing so. Not having a horse in this race I was on the edge of my seat with all my friends at thunder valley. What a showing for baseball and I hope baseballs overlords have the sense to build on this. This could do wonders for building a bigger following with the younger generations.
 
I mean...Kershaw was always likeable...whenever he gave up a late game tying home run or game ending home run...:p:p:p.
Seriously, though...great pitcher who just had some crappy luck when it came to postseason success.

While Kersh deserves some blame, of course, I place a lot more blame on his manager at the time, Don Mattingly, who often pushed him too deep into games when it was clear he was starting to fade. There were several games where had given up nothing through 6, only to have an epic collapse in the 7th. IIRC this happened a few times against the Cardinals. Thus the narrative began and it got into his head thereafter.

As it stands now, Kersh has 13 postseason wins -- which is good for 5th on the all-time list -- and pitched some gems in the postseason. While he also has 13 losses and a 4+ ERA -- I contend that could have easily been minimized with better in-game management.

You don't see managers today pushing their pitchers as Kersh was pushed back then. And when they do they are usually very quick to pull them when real trouble starts to arise.

Lastly, there are lots of elite level pitchers that just aren't built to do what the likes of Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Orel Hershisher, MadBum and Yoshi Yamamoto were able to do. Those are the rare instances, actually.

Kersh was one of the best pitchers of his generation for sure, and arguably an all-time great. But he was never a power pitcher and wasn't the type to flourish on short rest or when visibly fading, as he was asked to do too many times.

Also, minus a few, yes, the Dodgers do have some likeable folks.

I'm just curious as to who the few are. I realize that I'm a biased Dodgers fan but I just don't see any unlikable players on this team as there may have been in years past.

I definitely understand why many fans disliked Yasiel Puig, Manny Machado, Zach Greinke and Julio Urias (after the abuse video and allegations broke), but this org hasn't had those types of players for a few years now.

Shohei is about as nice and humble of a superstar as you'll ever find, and what is there to not like about Freddie Freeman except that he's not on your team? Mookie Betts has never been known as bad, selfish, or even overly arrogant guy. Kersh is an amazingly good dude. I don't even see many personality knocks against Muncy, Teoscar, Edman, Will Smith, and Pages.

The starting pitching staff of Yamamoto, Glasnow, Shohei, Snell, and Roki are all solid guys, although I can see some not liking Blake as he does seem to have a touch of "red ass" to him. And Muncy may not be liked by Giants fans after the incident with MadBum and because he's always played well against the Giants.

Even their manager, Dave Roberts, is widely considered a likeable guy around the league. He even finished his career playing for SF.
 
While Kersh deserves some blame, of course, I place a lot more blame on his manager at the time, Don Mattingly, who often pushed him too deep into games when it was clear he was starting to fade. There were several games where had given up nothing through 6, only to have an epic collapse in the 7th. IIRC this happened a few times against the Cardinals. Thus the narrative began and it got into his head thereafter.

As it stands now, Kersh has 13 postseason wins -- which is good for 5th on the all-time list -- and pitched some gems in the postseason. While he also has 13 losses and a 4+ ERA -- I contend that could have easily been minimized with better in-game management.

You don't see managers today pushing their pitchers as Kersh was pushed back then. And when they do they are usually very quick to pull them when real trouble starts to arise.

Lastly, there are lots of elite level pitchers that just aren't built to do what the likes of Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Orel Hershisher, MadBum and Yoshi Yamamoto were able to do. Those are the rare instances, actually.

Kersh was one of the best pitchers of his generation for sure, and arguably an all-time great. But he was never a power pitcher and wasn't the type to flourish on short rest or when visibly fading, as he was asked to do too many times.



I'm just curious as to who the few are. I realize that I'm a biased Dodgers fan but I just don't see any unlikable players on this team as there may have been in years past.

I definitely understand why many fans disliked Yasiel Puig, Manny Machado, Zach Greinke and Julio Urias (after the abuse video and allegations broke), but this org hasn't had those types of players for a few years now.

Shohei is about as nice and humble of a superstar as you'll ever find, and what is there to not like about Freddie Freeman except that he's not on your team? Mookie Betts has never been known as bad, selfish, or even overly arrogant guy. Kersh is an amazingly good dude. I don't even see many personality knocks against Muncy, Teoscar, Edman, Will Smith, and Pages.

The starting pitching staff of Yamamoto, Glasnow, Shohei, Snell, and Roki are all solid guys, although I can see some not liking Blake as he does seem to have a touch of "red ass" to him. And Muncy may not be liked by Giants fans after the incident with MadBum and because he's always played well against the Giants.

Even their manager, Dave Roberts, is widely considered a likeable guy around the league. He even finished his career playing for SF.
I see your point, and a fair question to ask.

Maybe no one in particular on the current version of the team, but there have definitely been some past Dodgers that I honestly never cared for, and you named one such Dodger right off the bat...Puig...Just never was able to get behind that guy at all.

Also, Gagne always got on my nerves. But not because he was unlikeable, but because he was just too dang difficult to get past.
 
I see your point, and a fair question to ask.

Maybe no one in particular on the current version of the team, but there have definitely been some past Dodgers that I honestly never cared for, and you named one such Dodger right off the bat...Puig...Just never was able to get behind that guy at all.

Also, Gagne always got on my nerves. But not because he was unlikeable, but because he was just too dang difficult to get past.

As a Dodger fan, even I soured on the “Wild Horse” after all the excitement over him during his 1st season. He was maddeningly predictable (and bad) as a hitter and his outward behavior was very off-putting.

I was a big fan of GAME OVER Gagne back in the day, but like many others during his era — he was a juicer. But still fun to watch.

The AB between he and Barry Bonds where he kept firing 100+ until finally getting taken yard was one of the more epic showdowns ever. Props to Eric for agreeing to challenge Barry when challenged by Barry himself.
 
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