Mavs @ Kings Game Thread

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4cwebb said:
actually, wouldn't Kings have been up three if the basket counted? So terry would have tied it with his play.

and it's not just regardless of anything else. Kings need to determine their outcomes and stop worrying about the refs...
Terry wouldn't have tied - play would have stopped, and Dallas would have probably called a timeout.

In any case, Dallas wouldn't have had a 4 on 3 and the Kings wouldn't have had to foul to try to prevent a layup.
 
VF21 said:
What is your problem?

I know you can't see the games so I've cut you some slack but you are way out of line here. It was a totally blown call. The second in a couple of days. Our guys are human. They got the ball back with 12.6 seconds left. They tried to get someone free. The only shot available was Bibby from outside the arc. So he took it.

What would you rather he done? Just let the clock expire?

Why don't you just give it a big bleeping rest?
So it's excusable to take a three when you have 12 seconds to get a two point shot to tie the game? My problem is that the general rule is that the home team always plays for overtime. My problem is that the set that they ran only yielded a three? Can that be my problem? Thanks.

And how am I out of line?
 
KP said:
Twice in one week in our own gym. I'm about ready to give up on the NBA. I might as well watch the WWF.
The WWF? You plan on watching pandas at the zoo?? Lol they changed the name to WWE a while ago now..Lol haven't watched wreslting for ages.
 
HndsmCelt said:
Once again the no call on a clear goal tend is only the LAST of a long list of reasons the Kings take a loss. The rest of the list they cando somethign about.
1. Defend, espcialy gaurds on the pass
2. Rebound the ball, OK they were +1 on tghe boards but one board could have changed the game.
3. Free Throw shooting. Don't jsut balme Webber the team was 18-26, any two or three of those 8 misses would do it.
4. Fourth quarter execution. When the game heats up the Kings need to resist the temtation to take early shots and show restraint and pass the ball to get the open shot.

It should be clear that not only will the refs NOT bail the Kings out, they will leave them hanging so the team needs to take them out of the equation by mataining leads in the fourth quarter, comming from behind in the final seconds is NOT a game plan.
Celt we would have been up 3 with 20 something seconds and not on our heels defensively we played well enough down the stretch to win. It was just taken from us.
 
HndsmCelt said:
Once again the no call on a clear goal tend is only the LAST of a long list of reasons the Kings take a loss. The rest of the list they cando somethign about.
1. Defend, espcialy gaurds on the pass
2. Rebound the ball, OK they were +1 on tghe boards but one board could have changed the game.
3. Free Throw shooting. Don't jsut balme Webber the team was 18-26, any two or three of those 8 misses would do it.
4. Fourth quarter execution. When the game heats up the Kings need to resist the temtation to take early shots and show restraint and pass the ball to get the open shot.

It should be clear that not only will the refs NOT bail the Kings out, they will leave them hanging so the team needs to take them out of the equation by mataining leads in the fourth quarter, comming from behind in the final seconds is NOT a game plan.
Celt we would have been up 3 with 20 something seconds and not on our heels defensively. We played well enough down the stretch to win. It was just taken from us.
 
4cwebb said:
actually, wouldn't Kings have been up three if the basket counted? So terry would have tied it with his play.

and it's not just regardless of anything else. Kings need to determine their outcomes and stop worrying about the refs...
Terry, and every other Mav for that matter would have been trying to shoot a three.....that's my point.

If the Kings would have gotten the 2 points they wouldn't be worrying about the refs and they would be trying to stop the 3.

This really had nothing to do with "playing through it" or whatever anyone wants to say. This was a totally inexcusable non-call that cost the team 2 points.
 
RAIDER925 said:
The WWF? You plan on watching pandas at the zoo?? Lol they changed the name to WWE a while ago now..Lol haven't watched wreslting for ages.
Do you really care about an acronym at this point. WWE whatever. GD raiders fans...
 
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i hope that our starting line up, coach, owners and gm are all fined tomorrow for saying that the refs all f'n suck...... they should all say in the post game interview that the refs suck and that stern is a dick for not using instant replay and letting the refs determine the outcome of games........
 
C4_Stojakovic said:
did you actually see the game?

anytime you get a decent, if not good look at the basket with time winding down you just have to take that shot. & yes Webb's missed FTs were big as well but the biggest was that goaltend-no-call by the refs on Cat's driving layup. would've put us up by 3.
No, I didn't see the game. I'm just frustrated that the best "open" or "decent" look the Kings could get at the basket was a three at the end of the game. I'd have just prefered that they take a higher percentage shot than that.
 
JMaassacre said:
That's Karma for you. Yea refs get a grade F in the last minute of the game? How aobut all the calls the Kings got. And the missed free throws by Webber? Mavs lost a similar game to the Spurs with a missed call on the goal tend, now the Kings know what it feels like.
"Karma is justice with out the satisfaction... and I don't belive in justice" Way of The Gun
 
AriesMar27 said:
i hope that our starting line up, coach, owners and gm are all fined tomorrow for saying that the refs all f'n suck...... they should all say in the post game interview that the refs suck and that stern is a dick for not using instant replay and letting the refs determine the outcome of games........
Good fan.^
 
4cwebb said:
No, I didn't see the game. I'm just frustrated that the best "open" or "decent" look the Kings could get at the basket was a three at the end of the game. I'd have just prefered that they take a higher percentage shot than that.
so would they Webb tried to drive to the hoop but got cut off andhad to pass back to bibby who had no choice but take a long shot.
 

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4cwebb said:
So it's excusable to take a three when you have 12 seconds to get a two point shot to tie the game? My problem is that the general rule is that the home team always plays for overtime. My problem is that the set that they ran only yielded a three? Can that be my problem? Thanks.

And how am I out of line?
They didn't try the three at the 12 second mark. They tried to get someone open. Bibby passed in to Webber, who was covered. He passed it out to MIller, who tried to get it back into Webber, but had to get it out to Bibby because there was virtually no time left. The ball left Bibby's hands for the shot just before the buzzer.

Your problem is you ALWAYS want to think the worst about our team and you're depending on radio broadcasts. You never believe what those of us who actually watched the bleeping game have to say.
 
i seriously am about to throw up

i did think it was pretty funny that Mike stormed off the court...he didn't want to get fined for failure to leave the court....haha
 
KP said:
Celt we would have been up 3 with 20 something seconds and not on our heels defensively we played well enough down the stretch to win. It was just taken from us.
No argument there but the Kings have NO POWER over what the Refs do, only over what they do. For better or worse the gloves are off and the Kings better understand the officaials will NOT bail them out or even make it easy for them. So they can either expect to loose OR take the refs out of the game. I vote for taking the refs out fo the game.
 
4cwebb said:
So it's excusable to take a three when you have 12 seconds to get a two point shot to tie the game? My problem is that the general rule is that the home team always plays for overtime. My problem is that the set that they ran only yielded a three? Can that be my problem? Thanks.

And how am I out of line?
Yes, the general rule is that you go for a 2 at home to tie the game. The only problem is, this is often what the defense expects, and that was the case tonight. It's not like we passed up open 2s just to try for the 3. That was the first, only, and best shot we had and time was going to expire.
 
4cwebb said:
No, I didn't see the game. I'm just frustrated that the best "open" or "decent" look the Kings could get at the basket was a three at the end of the game. I'd have just prefered that they take a higher percentage shot than that.
ever heard of take what the Defense gives you? yeah i know we're talking about the Mavs here but as much as i hate to admit it, they played pretty well on D in that last play & that was the best possible sequence that went for us at that time.

i would've of course preferred they had taken the higher percentage shot but Bib was open & it was a good look with time winding down. had he taken a few more dribbles or hesitated on bit, time would've expired already by then.
 
AriesMar27 said:
i hope that our starting line up, coach, owners and gm are all fined tomorrow for saying that the refs all f'n suck...... they should all say in the post game interview that the refs suck and that stern is a dick for not using instant replay and letting the refs determine the outcome of games........
thanks. I didn't think I could smile after that loss, but i just did.:)
 
VF21 said:
They didn't try the three at the 12 second mark. They tried to get someone open. Bibby passed in to Webber, who was covered. He passed it out to MIller, who tried to get it back into Webber, but had to get it out to Bibby because there was virtually no time left. The ball left Bibby's hands for the shot just before the buzzer.

Your problem is you ALWAYS want to think the worst about our team and you're depending on radio broadcasts. You never believe what those of us who actually watched the bleeping game have to say.
Yes, I am aware that they tried the three with very little time left on the clock, and that apparently that was the best shot that they could get, but I can still be frustrated by that, can't I? I can still lament that the only shot the team could get with 12 seconds was an open three, right?

I haven't disputed one single thing those of you who "watched" the game have had to say, and yes, I'm a pessimistic Kings' fan. Team isn't giving me much reason to be otherwise over the last four games, is it?
 
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