Marty Mac: Rolling the dice on Theus as safe a bet as any other

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THIS article, written by Marty MacNeal, long-time beat writer for the Kings, seems to indicate it was, in fact, a mutual decision to select Theus.

http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/233996.html

Marty Mac's World: Rolling dice on Theus as safe a bet as any other
By Martin McNeal - Bee Columnist
Published 6:48 am PDT Thursday, June 21, 2007
Story appeared in SPORTS section, Page C2


Kings co-owners Joe and Gavin Maloof have spent much of their lives literally and figuratively rolling the dice in Las Vegas.

Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie is considerably more conservative, although given the opportunity for high reward, has been known to take a chance.

Enter Reggie Theus, who was introduced Wednesday as the Kings' new coach.

Yes, the Maloofs and Petrie have sidled up to the table and taken the dice into their hands by turning over their squad to a man who has never coached an NBA game as an assistant, much less run the show on his own.

However, whether they had decided to hire a proven winner such as Larry Brown, a former head coach without a great deal of coaching experience such as Kurt Rambis or the NBA coaching neophyte Theus, the decision would have been a gamble.

No one knows how a coaching hire will unfold. Who, including myself, believed Brown's one-year stint with the New York Knicks would have evolved into a 23-59 season and the vitriol that followed?

Consider many of the 16 playoff coaches this season and how they were viewed before they got their first NBA head-coaching position.

San Antonio's Gregg Popovich had been a longtime assistant under Don Nelson, but no one projected him to become a future Hall of Fame coach. Dallas' Avery Johnson also came out of the Nelson camp, but before he was knighted as the Mavericks' coach to follow Nelson -- currently Golden State's coach -- Johnson merely was a smart little ballplayer who had overcome the odds to help lead the Spurs to their first NBA title.

Toronto's Sam Mitchell, New Jersey's Lawrence Frank, Cleveland's Mike Brown, Washington's Eddie Jordan and Houston's former head coach, Jeff Van Gundy, were surprise hires, respectively, yet have turned out to be relative successes. No one could have predicted Utah's Jerry Sloan would still hold the job he has had since 1988. Or that Chicago's Scott Skiles, along with Theus and Charlotte's recently hired Sam Vincent, would be coaches after being members of Orlando'"s expansion team of 1989-90.

Los Angeles Lakers coach Phil Jackson, Denver's George Karl and Detroit's Flip Saunders each had success coaching in the Continental Basketball Association, but no one could have predicted they would be NBA coaching mainstays.

So when Joe Maloof walked out of the news conference Wednesday afternoon at Arco Arena, he said of Theus: "Why not give him a chance?"

The same thought had come to my mind when it recently came to light that Kings assistant Scott Brooks, Lakers assistant Brian Shaw and Theus were still in the mix. Sacramento is starting anew and likely will begin the 2007-08 season with a remodeled roster.

There would be little sense in bringing in a coach who will have one foot already out the door with a young team. I've never spent much time around Theus, but what comes through brightly is his confidence, communication ability and intelligence.

Theus' confidence has been and will be viewed as egotistical, but that's not unusual. There's always that thin line, and often it depends upon who is doing the judging and how they feel about the person.

The bottom line for Theus' chances of success might rest more in the hands, thoughts, creativity and guts of the Maloofs and Petrie -- more than any maneuver Theus makes as a new coach or the experienced coach he hopes to become.

Theus has said he will add an experienced coach to his staff, and the name Pete Carril immediately comes to mind. Petrie said Carril had hip replacement surgery a few days ago, so his health will be a factor if Theus looks his way.

However, Theus couldn't get off to a better start if he can add this Hall of Famer to his coaching staff.

About the writer: The Bee's Martin McNeal can be reached at mmcneal@sacbee.com.
 
THIS article, written by Marty MacNeal, long-time beat writer for the Kings, seems to indicate it was, in fact, a mutual decision to select Theus.
Why do you say that? I think both the Wojnarowski article and the posters on this board are saying that while Petrie agreed to Theus, he did so at least in part because Theus was the Maloofs choice.

That said, I pretty much agree with the point of McNeal's article. Some coaches are less of a risk than others though, so just because all are risks doesn't mean that a bad choice can't be made.
 
Hey why not, I guess reggie could potentially be a wonderful coach at least thats what i keep telling myself, but hey he was a great player so he had some experience with the nba unlike other coachs, I think he could be one of those heart to heart guys reaching to certain players at the right time, we all have to start somewhere wether it be the geocery store or the nba, hall of fame coaches will never reach their potential if the oppurtunity is never given, so givith the chance reggie is all right by my books!

GO KINGS!!!
 
Theus has said he will add an experienced coach to his staff, and the name Pete Carril immediately comes to mind. Petrie said Carril had hip replacement surgery a few days ago, so his health will be a factor if Theus looks his way.

However, Theus couldn't get off to a better start if he can add this Hall of Famer to his coaching staff.

Oh yeah! Let's get Carril back in here. He's got a year off and I would love to see him back on our sidelines. Plus, he can keep coaching kevin and help the other young guys.
 
it kinds seems that Theus was a Maloof guy that Petrie came around too, not a Maloof guy that they went over Petrie's head to hire
 
it kinds seems that Theus was a Maloof guy that Petrie came around too, not a Maloof guy that they went over Petrie's head to hire

It more or less worked out that way. The Maloofs were obviously in love, dazzled and *WOWED* with Theus. Petrie probably leaned towards Shaw, but then said, "Well if this is the guy you really want, then that's fine with me."

That's sort of a change from last season when the Maloofs were going to hire their family friend/WNBA coach and Petrie had to step in and kindly explain to them exactly how insane that idea was.

I don't think Reggie Theus was anywhere close to being the most qualified candidate for the job, but even then he's about 100x more qualifed than John Whisenant.
 
Why do you say that? I think both the Wojnarowski article and the posters on this board are saying that while Petrie agreed to Theus, he did so at least in part because Theus was the Maloofs choice.

That said, I pretty much agree with the point of McNeal's article. Some coaches are less of a risk than others though, so just because all are risks doesn't mean that a bad choice can't be made.

Why did I say that? Primarily because Marty MacNeal has a much better chance of getting legitimate information than Wojnarowski. And I was simply posting the other side of the coin, so to speak.

I'm really baffled by a lot of this post-mortem stuff anyway.
 
I agree that it isn't that big of a deal, but to me its only not a big deal because what happened seems pretty obvious and it isn't all that surprising.

However, there are things that annoy us (like a big number 6 with a bud light logo) because they represent an attitude that we don't want to see in our team and its leaders. This is just another one of those things for a lot of people, which is probably why it is being focused on so much.
 
I agree that it isn't that big of a deal, but to me its only not a big deal because what happened seems pretty obvious and it isn't all that surprising.

However, there are things that annoy us (like a big number 6 with a bud light logo) because they represent an attitude that we don't want to see in our team and its leaders. This is just another one of those things for a lot of people, which is probably why it is being focused on so much.

Then people need to realize the corporate structure of the Kings.

The big 6 and the whole "gold standard" fiasco, while signed off on by the Maloofs, was the brainchild of the "marketing and sales" portion of Maloof Sports and Entertainment, led by John Thomas. It probably sounded really good on paper and appealed to the Maloofs, who like to do things larger than life anyway. It was handled poorly, however, as we all recall - especially since the stupid gold lamé looked ridiculous to most.

Petrie and the guys who actually work with the players and the team had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the choice. Nothing.
 
THIS article, written by Marty MacNeal, long-time beat writer for the Kings, seems to indicate it was, in fact, a mutual decision to select Theus.

It does nothing of the sort. That is disingenuous at best. It barely addresses the topic of the process, and is instead a simple recital of the uncertainty principle (the tautology that you never know, and there is no way of being sure that Reggie will fail, which is of course true). If it tries to imply anything else at all, it would be about the Brown candidacy.
 
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wow brick chill out. HES OUR COACH NOW. I realize you dont like it..... check/got it ...... now can we wait until the season starts to hate this hire.
 
wow brick chill out. HES OUR COACH NOW. I realize you dont like it..... check/got it ...... now can we wait until the season starts to hate this hire.


Thank you for your sophisticated reproach. If the distinctions being made are causing you a headache perhaps you should just quit reading them and head off to the Lounge to play "The Game".

As an aside, subtlety does not appear to be a long suit, but let me add that this may or may not have been a bad hire, but the act/hire itself was not nearly so offensive as the way it came about, the reasons that it came about, and then of course the insufferable need of some to defend it in all its particulars regardless of evidence or common sense.
 
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Thank you for your sophisticated reproach. If the distinctions being made are causing you a headache perhaps you should just quit reading them and head off to the Lounge to play "The Game".

As an aside, subtelty does not appear to be a long suit, but let me add that this may or may not have been a bad hire, but the act/hire itself was not nearly so offensive as the way it came about, the reasons that it came about, and then of course the insufferable need of some to defend it in all its particulars regardless of evidence or common sense.

You don't know how it came about, Brick. That's my point. And I don't think there's any tangible evidence to support your theories.

And I think the "insufferable need of some to defend it" comment is just as applicable if it's reversed.

You've been anti-front office for a long time around here to the point where you actually rival Marcos Breton at times. It's pretty much a downer for a number of people who want to find something to look forward to or be excited about for their favorite team.

I'm not saying by any means that you do not have a right to voice your opinion but you could at least acknowledge the validity of opposing views.

The Kings are obviously turning over a new leaf. The Maloofs, Petrie and now Reggie are talking about things in a manner we haven't really heard before. I know I'm glad to hear them and will give them the benefit of the doubt until/unless they prove to be doing something nefarious for some unknown purpose.

Yes, I see things through homer-colored glasses. That's what I do. We're talking about a form of entertainment. Expensive, true, but it's still entertainment. I'd rather look forward to enjoying a season. If I didn't, I guess I'd find something else to do with my time.
 
Yes, I see things through homer-colored glasses. That's what I do. We're talking about a form of entertainment. Expensive, true, but it's still entertainment. I'd rather look forward to enjoying a season. If I didn't, I guess I'd find something else to do with my time.


And that is precisely why you are subject to being pandered to -- you want to believe whereas I want to be convinced. Its no different than someone who WANTS to believe in ghosts, and so when the door slams they are only too eager to conclude that yes, it must be a ghost. Meanwhile I am out checking the hinges, seeing if there was a wind, or if a dog might have run by and knockd out the doorstop.
 
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I am not being pandered to, dear Bricklayer.

But we'll agree to disagree. I respect you but realize we'll never see eye to eye on this subject.

Peace.
 
I'd rather look forward to enjoying a season. If I didn't, It guess I'd find something else to do with my time.

Best sentence I have read on this site in a LONG time.

I really enjoyed listening to what Regiie, Petrie, and the Maloofs had to say the other day. It may turn out to just be lip service, but right now, I really do not care. I am actually excited about next season already. The sad fact iss that after last season, I was not sure that I would be excited. I am and that is enought for now. I am well aware that there is a chance that this may turn out worse that last year, BUT it may not. I choose to be happy about things until it is proven that I cannot be happy with this decision. I say good luch Coach Theus and GO KINGS!!
 
Best sentence I have read on this site in a LONG time.

I really enjoyed listening to what Regiie, Petrie, and the Maloofs had to say the other day. It may turn out to just be lip service, but right now, I really do not care. I am actually excited about next season already. The sad fact iss that after last season, I was not sure that I would be excited. I am and that is enought for now. I am well aware that there is a chance that this may turn out worse that last year, BUT it may not. I choose to be happy about things until it is proven that I cannot be happy with this decision. I say good luch Coach Theus and GO KINGS!!

This discussion reminds me of telling kids there's no Santa Claus. They're all excited and pumped and you just know they're going to be disappointed once they discover the truth. Some of them weather it just fine, others prefer denial a little longer. Either way, eventually they all learn to live with it. And, so we will with the Kings and Theus, whether we like it or not. :p
 
I'm still confused as to when, exactly, it was determined that supporting a team means also supporting every decision that is made regarding the future of that team.
 
I'm still confused as to when, exactly, it was determined that supporting a team means also supporting every decision that is made regarding the future of that team.

No one has, to my knowledge, made this point, G3.
 
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