Marty Burns: Progress report (incl. Kevin & Bonzi)

[Cal-Kings]

And yes, I'm quite happy that it allowed Martin to grow last season, but would we possibly have finished higher in the standings if Bonzi had played the season the way he played in the Spurs Series? It's a hypothetical question, but IMHO, the answer is yes.

Is it just coincidence that he was magically healthy for that very visible series and not before nor after?

Possibly. But I'm not buying it.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Let Houston deal with him.

 

[Padrino]

No, I don't want to delete or edit that post. That's my opinion based on observation of the entire season and of Bonzi's career as a whole.

I question the seriousness of his injury then and now.

Sorry that's difficult for you, but it's what I see.

a torn groin is a serious injury for anybody, especially physically active people. it takes a long time to heal, and even after its healed, there's great potential for re-injury, because all leg movement affects the groin area. having had just a minor groin injury in high school, i can say that it sucks big time. the discomfort sticks around long after the injury has supposedly healed. of course, i can't speak for bonzi's situation currently in houston, but when he was in a kings uniform, he hustled and hustled and hustled. he may not always have made the best decisions on the offensive end of the court, and sometimes it seemed awfully difficult for him to finish around the basket, but the dude was a tank dressed in purple and white. questioning his heart last season is a bit of a low blow. even if he was just doing it for the payday he never received, he gave everything he had.

 

[Cal-Kings]

a torn groin is a serious injury for anybody, especially physically active people. it takes a long time to heal, and even after its healed, there's great potential for re-injury, because all leg movement affects the groin area. having had just a minor groin injury in high school, i can say that it sucks big time. the discomfort sticks around long after the injury has supposedly healed. of course, i can't speak for bonzi's situation currently in houston, but when he was in a kings uniform, he hustled and hustled and hustled. he may not always have made the best decisions on the offensive end of the court, and sometimes it seemed awfully difficult for him to finish around the basket, but the dude was a tank dressed in purple and white. questioning his heart last season is a bit of a low blow. even if he was just doing it for the payday he never received, he gave everything he had.

As I said, it's a matter of opinion based on observation. I just hold a different opinion.

I didn't realize there was a Bonzi "can of worms" here. Sorry to offend anyone, but I stick with my view.

 

[Padrino]

As I said, it's a matter of opinion based on observation. I just hold a different opinion.

I didn't realize there was a Bonzi "can of worms" here. Sorry to offend anyone, but I stick with my view.

ain't no can of worms with me. he's gone. i don't really care. but you're missing a few things that i think you should take notice of.

And yes, I'm quite happy that it allowed Martin to grow last season, but would we possibly have finished higher in the standings if Bonzi had played the season the way he played in the Spurs Series? It's a hypothetical question, but IMHO, the answer is yes.

Is it just coincidence that he was magically healthy for that very visible series and not before nor after?

Possibly. But I'm not buying it.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Let Houston deal with him.

sure we would of, but that's a ludicrous request for a 2-guard. you're comparing apples and oranges. the regular season is an 82-game grind. bonzi wells had an outstanding 6-game playoff series against the spurs. there were plenty of times during the regular season when he looked that dominant, but over the course of 82 games, averages are gonna dip because its an up-and-down season for most players who aren't among the superstars of the league. have you seen bonzi's regular season rebounding average? 7.7/game, for an off-guard! 13.6 pts, 7.7 rebs, 2.8 asts, 1.8 stls. that's not too shabby for someone who could hardly be considered the focal point of the team.

the playoffs are another beast entirely. against the suprs, he caught fire, the coaching staff discovered that it was an excellent matchup in favor of the kings, and they continued to exploit it through 6 games. you don't have to make as many adjustments game-to-game as you do in the regular season, when you need an entirely new strategy every game because you're playing different teams every game. small adjustments are made in the playoffs, and the spurs were never able to adjust to bonzi's dominating performance; their fault, not bonzi's. the spurs still won, so it doesn't mean much in hindsight, but its worth noting because there clearly is a disparity between bonzi's regular season numbers and his playoff numbers. that's to be expected.

 

[Cal-Kings]

...the spurs still won, so it doesn't mean much in hindsight.

I agree the Spurs were going to win anyway. And even if we'd finished 6th or 7th, we probably would have been gone in the 1st round.

I'm just happy Bonzi is gone. I think it worked out the best for us.

I'm also happy Mobley is gone.

Is there a Mobley "can of worms" around too?

 

[Bricklayer]

No, I don't want to delete or edit that post. That's my opinion based on observation of the entire season and of Bonzi's career as a whole.

I question the seriousness of his injury then and now.

Sorry that's difficult for you, but it's what I see.

Not really difficult for me -- and defending Bonzi Wells' toughness is one of those things that doesn't even have to be stated in rational conversation. Just rather sad. One of those things that goes somewhat beyond the normal mesaageboard delusions and starts approaching "the sky is red" territory. In other news Ron is a wimp, Peja is tough, Reef is arrogant, and Brad is a city boy. Jessica Simpson is also due to publish a nobel winning treatise on string theory here sometime this week too.

 

[Cal-Kings]

Not really difficult for me -- just rather sad. One of those things that goes somewhat beyond the normal mesaageboard delusions and starts approaching "the sky is red" territory. In other news Ron is a wimp, Peja is tough, Reef is arrogant, and Brad is a city boy. Jessica Simpson is also due to publish a nobel winning treatise on string theory here sometime this week too.

Sorry? I thought there were rules about insulting other posters. I'm "delusional" because I disagree with you?

And where did I mention Ron, Peja, Reef, Brad or Jessica Simpson?

Are you sure you want to continue this discussion in this manner?

 

[Cal-Kings]

I'm sure you're convinced of Bonzi's toughness. I think I'll side with probably thousands of Blazer, Grizzley, and Rocket fans that just might not see him that way.

When he was "on the court" he did play well. My point is, he wasn't "on the court" enough and he was "on the court" at odd times. That's my problem with him. That together with his history in Portland and Memphis and now Houston.

And I will allow you your opinion without calling you delusional, or some kind of Bonzi apologist. Your opinion has value, just as mine does. We just see him differently.

 

[Bricklayer]

I'm sure you're convinced of Bonzi's toughness. I think I'll side with probably thousands of Blazer, Grizzley, and Rocket fans that just might not see him that way.

When he was "on the court" he did play well. My point is, he wasn't "on the court" enough and he was "on the court" at odd times. That's my problem with him. That together with his history in Portland and Memphis and now Houston.

And I will allow you your opinion without calling you delusional, or some kind of Bonzi apologist. Your opinion has value, just as mine does. We just see him differently.

As mentioned, the sky is red is not a valid opinion.

And the many thousands of fans that you apparently know in Blazer + Grizzly land may have many complaints about Bonzi Wells. Toughness however would not be one of them.

 

[Cal-Kings]

As mentioned, the sky is red is not a valid opinion.

...

Wow... that's an amazing comment. I think I'll have to just ignore it and move on. Thanks anyway.

 

[Cal-Kings]

On second thought, Bricklayer, did I read somewhere that you were a lawyer?

I think you'll agree that in order to have an intelligent discussion on "Bonzi's toughness" we would need to define toughness. Perhaps we define it differently.

Also, it's possible I wasn't discussing toughness, but integrity. Someone can be "tough" and work through pain, and at the same time decide not to do so. That would be more a question of integrity than toughness, wouldn't you agree?

Nevertheless, we are both simply coming to conclusions based on our observation. I assume you do not know Bonzi personally and can't testify to his own personal perspective during this time. I certainly don't know him. Also you and I are not doctors who examined his injury so we have the same information and are free to come to our own conclusions about the true severity of it and the impact on his ability to play.

But in my book, when someone is paid to work, and not only calls in sick a lot and then months later doesn't come to a new job ready to work, I question the integrity. (Note, I said I "question" it, as in express a strong curiosity.) It's possible that the person really is too sick to work and I grant that possibility. I just doubt it based on observation of this person over time and in many situations where he has been called to task for the very same behavior many times before.

To summarize, this is a discussion of opinions.

Let's see what facts we have.

1) A groin injury. (We both know these vary widely in severity and neither of us can "feel" Bonzi's personal pain.)
2) He didn't show up at Houston ready to play.
3) He was a problem in Portland and Memphis. Perhaps his problems there were all misunderstandings from mean people, or there was something to the complaints. All we have as "facts" is that problems were perceived there.

So that leaves me with my conclusion (sheer opinion) that Bonzi is lacking in the integrity and credibility department and I'm just happy to be rid of him. Again, I'm not talking about simple toughness.

It leaves you with the opinion that Bonzi's toughness can't be questioned by anyone.

Thank you for the discussion.

 

[BawLa]

And yes, I'm quite happy that it allowed Martin to grow last season, but would we possibly have finished higher in the standings if Bonzi had played the season the way he played in the Spurs Series? It's a hypothetical question, but IMHO, the answer is yes.

Is it just coincidence that he was magically healthy for that very visible series and not before nor after?

Possibly. But I'm not buying it.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Let Houston deal with him.

I disagree completely. I mean I agree that if Bonzi had played the way he played in the playoffs all season, then we would have a better record. Yes that's true without taking into consideration his injury. But don't you think it is possible that Rick Adelman had a hand in Bonzi's effectiveness throughout the year? He was the one that controlled the ongoings of our offense. Just last year was the first year that Rick started to do more isolation plays. Which is Bonzi's and SAR's strength. I think Bonzi's production in the playoffs was a direct result of us getting schooled by a better team and therefore Rick opening up to Bonzi's and SAR's game. And it worked, a little bit.

The other factor speaks directly to Bonzi as a person. He stepped it up huge in the playoffs when your team needs you to step up. When Bibby and Brad and Kenny and others seemed to cower away in the playoffs, it was guys like Ron, Bonzi, Kevin and SAR that seemed to rise to the occasion. It wasn't like he magically did this. Good players rise to the occasion and put injuries totally aside. Ron was hobbling around with that hip-pointer. Which is very uncomfortable from what I hear and Ron was a soldier for us. So was Bonzi...and thats why Ron wanted Bonzi back this year.

On another note you can listen to whatever sources you want on particular subjects regarding Bonzi, but IMO you should only go on what you see in front of you. In other words, Bonzi gave us no reason, besides turnovers, to criticize him last year. If you want to trust the media that is a monster for your information then okay, but I take it with a grain of salt and pass judgement from the facts in front of me. Even a Sac Bee reporter blew something out of proportion early last year after Bonzi arrived. So you want to listen to the media, or the fans that listen to the media, but I think it is best to take all that with a grain of salt and pass judgement based on the facts in front of you.

 

[Cal-Kings]

I disagree completely. I mean I agree that if Bonzi had played the way he played in the playoffs all season, then we would have a better record. Yes that's true without taking into consideration his injury.

We agree so far.

But don't you think it is possible that Rick Adelman had a hand in Bonzi's effectiveness throughout the year?

Yes, when Bonzi was playing. I'm talking about the many regular season games he missed.

He was the one that controlled the ongoings of our offense. Just last year was the first year that Rick started to do more isolation plays. Which is Bonzi's and SAR's strength. I think Bonzi's production in the playoffs was a direct result of us getting schooled by a better team and therefore Rick opening up to Bonzi's and SAR's game. And it worked, a little bit.

I agree with that. But I'm not sure I was debating Adelman's offense or use of Bonzi. I'm only talking about when Bonzi wasn't on the court and the impact of that on the season.

The other factor speaks directly to Bonzi as a person. He stepped it up huge in the playoffs when your team needs you to step up. When Bibby and Brad and Kenny and others seemed to cower away in the playoffs, it was guys like Ron, Bonzi, Kevin and SAR that seemed to rise to the occasion. It wasn't like he magically did this. Good players rise to the occasion and put injuries totally aside. Ron was hobbling around with that hip-pointer. Which is very uncomfortable from what I hear and Ron was a soldier for us. So was Bonzi...and thats why Ron wanted Bonzi back this year.

I don't think a player playing hard in their contract year when visible in the playoffs is all that profound. I've seen too many play hard only for show and to get the money. Bonzi thought he was on his way to a gold mine simply because of his play in the Spurs series.

As for Ron, now there's an example of someone who plays hurt, plays hard, plays everyday. I see a lot of integrity in Ron and a lot of heart in his game. He and Bonzi are two very different personalities from my point of view.

On another note you can listen to whatever sources you want on particular subjects regarding Bonzi, but IMO you should only go on what you see in front of you. In other words, Bonzi gave us no reason, besides turnovers, to criticize him last year. If you want to trust the media that is a monster for your information then okay, but I take it with a grain of salt and pass judgement from the facts in front of me. Even a Sac Bee reporter blew something out of proportion early last year after Bonzi arrived. So you want to listen to the media, or the fans that listen to the media, but I think it is best to take all that with a grain of salt and pass judgement based on the facts in front of you.

I agree that events in Portland and Memphis can be called into question for their accuracy. I granted that. However, when there's a pattern that goes on and repeats, that's where I start to suspect that there might have been something to those problems.
When Bonzi was here, I was more than willing to allow that all the prior problems were misunderstandings and/or that he'd changed. He certainly wasn't an attitude or social problem here. However, when he came back from that groin injury, then disappeared again only to show up for the playoffs on the national stage, then disappear in Houston. That's too much pattern and repetition to ignore, IMHO.

Thanks for the discussion.

 

[BawLa]

Yes, when Bonzi was playing. I'm talking about the many regular season games he missed.

Are you trying to say Bonzi was not productive on the court when he was...not on the court?

We were talking about Bonzi's production on the court when he was not injured. I made a correlation to the type of offense Adelman ran. Saying that we only got to see Bonzi's potential, offensively speaking, at the end of our season when it was basically over and Rick was willing to try anything.

If you are trying to say that Bonzi hurt us because he was injured I think that is unfair. A groin injury is the type of injury where every aspect of basketball, including getting up and sitting down on the bench, is adversely affected. Groin injuries can sideline any player, great or insignificant, tough or weak. Even Ron 'The Tru Warier' Artest would be out if he had that groin injury.

It's not like Bonzi was holding back his skills for the playoffs. I'm making the argument that the combination of his groin injury, and Rick's style of offense during the regular season, were the chief reasons why Bonzi did not produce as much. What was Bonzi supposed to do during the regular season? Disobey the coach and lose playing time because he wanted to show his skills? San Antonio did not have an answer for Bonzi in the playoffs ( well except for a complete team). They were petrified of him and everyone knew it. I think Bonzi deserves a little respect considering he did have to overcome a groin injury and an uptight coach throughout the course of a season in order to show us what he was capable of. And then of course we know the rest. We offer him 40 mil...etc, etc, etc.

 

[Cal-Kings]

Are you trying to say Bonzi was not productive on the court when he was...not on the court?

Uh... no. I'm questioning his character in his decision not to be on the court. I'm not questioning his ability.

We were talking about Bonzi's production on the court when he was not injured.

Sorry, but I wasn't talking about that. I guess you can address that to the other people you were talking with then.

If you are trying to say that Bonzi hurt us because he was injured I think that is unfair. A groin injury is the type of injury where every aspect of basketball, including getting up and sitting down on the bench, is adversely affected. Groin injuries can sideline any player, great or insignificant, tough or weak. Even Ron 'The Tru Warier' Artest would be out if he had that groin injury.

Groin injuries are notoriously vague and differ greatly in severity. I'm only questioning his sitting out so many games. I didn't question it at the time, I'm only questioning it looking back now, considering all the subsequent events around him.

It's not like Bonzi was holding back his skills for the playoffs.

Certainly the man has skills and showed them in that series. He was brilliant. And apparently injury-free.

I'm making the argument that the combination of his groin injury, and Rick's style of offense during the regular season, were the chief reasons why Bonzi did not produce as much.

Again, I'm only questioning his long stretches of absense when, it's assumed, if he'd been able to play more games, we might have won more games. Even this is an extreme hypothetical, I admit.

What was Bonzi supposed to do during the regular season? Disobey the coach and lose playing time because he wanted to show his skills?

I'm not sure what you mean? When did Bonzi ever want to play and Adelmen tell him he couldn't? I believe all the decisions to sit on the sidelines in a suit were made by Bonzi.

San Antonio did not have an answer for Bonzi in the playoffs ( well except for a complete team). They were petrified of him and everyone knew it. I think Bonzi deserves a little respect considering he did have to overcome a groin injury and an uptight coach throughout the course of a season in order to show us what he was capable of. And then of course we know the rest. We offer him 40 mil...etc, etc, etc.

I guess it's "respect" that I'm refusing to give based on my opinion of his behavior throughout his career, including the present day.

 

[BawLa]

Groin injuries are notoriously vague and differ greatly in severity. I'm only questioning his sitting out so many games. I didn't question it at the time, I'm only questioning it looking back now, considering all the subsequent events around him.

What events? His past before Sacramento? Where you probably lack even more insight. So now, after hearing of whats going on in Houston, you now are all of a sudden feeling ill about Bonzi being injured last year and you think that he was sitting out when he could have been in. And now that you're making it sound like it is his fault that we didn't end up better in the west.

I think you lack perspective in your judgement. So I'm just going to let it go before I say what I really feel.

Thanks for discussing...nothing.

 

[Lamar_Odom]

I'm not really sure why Andrew Bynum is such a surprise in terms of how he is performing. Afterall, he was the 10th pick in the draft last year, plus, he is being coached by the greatest center in the history of the game. (Greatest in a sense that he scored the most points in NBA history.)

What is surprising about Bynum though is his work ethic, his desire and willingness to learn. There is an element of humility in him and he just soaks whatever is taught of him.

 

[Padrino]

I'm not really sure why Andrew Bynum is such a surprise in terms of how he is performing. Afterall, he was the 10th pick in the draft last year, plus, he is being coached by the greatest center in the history of the game. (Greatest in a sense that he scored the most points in NBA history.)

What is surprising about Bynum though is his work ethic, his desire and willingness to learn. There is an element of humility in him and he just soaks whatever is taught of him.

i actually find this less surprising. he's 19 years old, and he's being personally coached by one of the greatest players in the game. that's not just a privilege...its a friggin' honor.

 

[VF21]

I can only hope the humility doesn't get lost in the bright lights of LA.

 

[Troy]

I can only hope the humility doesn't get lost in the bright lights of LA.

OR by KOBE

Much like AI in Philly

 

[Lamar_Odom]

OR by KOBE

Much like AI in Philly

Regardless of how great a teammate Kobe has become, I don't think he'll ever get credit from fans of other teams, especially the Kings fans. Objectivity lost in Sacramento?

 

[VF21]

Don't even go there, mmmmkay?

 

[supamari0]

Regardless of how great a teammate Kobe has become, I don't think he'll ever get credit from fans of other teams, especially the Kings fans. Objectivity lost in Sacramento?

Thanks for keeping the thread related to the original topics buddy.

 

[Cal-Kings]

What events? His past before Sacramento? Where you probably lack even more insight.

I don't claim to have any more insight than you do. Surely you can't claim to have more insight than I.

So now, after hearing of whats going on in Houston, you now are all of a sudden feeling ill about Bonzi being injured last year and you think that he was sitting out when he could have been in.

Yes, that's part of it. I take into account all of someone's actions past and present when I make a judgement. Why would you choose to ignore some of them?

And now that you're making it sound like it is his fault that we didn't end up better in the west.

Not completely. I said it was an extreme hypothetical to assume we would have been higher seeded. An extreme hypothetical... in your language - "a wild-a$s guess".

I think you lack perspective in your judgement.

On the contrary, I think I'm quite attune in my judgement to the big picture that is Bonzi Wells.

So I'm just going to let it go before I say what I really feel. Thanks for discussing...nothing.

Fine. I don't understand the emotion behind this discussion. I'm simply stating an opinion and you are free to disagree with it. I don't feel the need to toss insults around about it at people who disagree with me.

 

[BawLa]

I don't claim to have any more insight than you do. Surely you can't claim to have more insight than I.

If you believe everything you hear from sources that you don't even know are credible, then have fun.

Not completely. I said it was an extreme hypothetical to assume we would have been higher seeded. An extreme hypothetical... in your language - "a wild-a$s guess".

Don't even go there buddy. I have an engineering degree from a top engineering school so my language is widespread.

If you want to presume that you know anything about me and if you want to continue to disrespect people that you talk to, then you are going to have a tough future ahead of you on this message board.

And you continue to say that part of your argument is an "extreme hypothetical". So why labor the point? I understood extreme hypothetical the first two times you wrote it.

On the contrary, I think I'm quite attune in my judgement to the big picture that is Bonzi Wells.

You haven't shown anyone evidence of this.

Fine. I don't understand the emotion behind this discussion.

You bring emotion out of people when you continuously disrespect them.

I'm simply stating an opinion and you are free to disagree with it.

It sure feels like you are over-defending your loosely-based points.

I don't feel the need to toss insults around about it at people who disagree with me.

Wake up.

When you take your points out of a discussion and start picking apart everything I say, then you aren't discussing anything. You are just trying to prove me wrong so that you are right. Sorry buddy, doesn't work on me. The statements you made were vague, and filled with ill-logic. But they are yours and you can believe whatever you want, or whatever helps you sleep at night.

The problem I had with what you said was that now, after learning of his past and present, both before and after Sacramento, that you think Bonzi's time in Sacramento is suspicious to you.

Bonzi Wells was a good player, and a good person in his short-lived tenure in Sacramento. I chose to defend him for that reason and now I'm done. And so is this so-called discussion.

 

[nbrans]

Can someone tell me what this discussion is about? I can't even figure it out. I need Cliff notes.

 

[Cal-Kings]

Can someone tell me what this discussion is about? I can't even figure it out. I need Cliff notes.

I don't know you folks very well and I've just been trying to have a simple conversation.

I'm surprised at the venom in response.

I have an opinion about Bonzi's character. And that's it. But I've been barraged with all kinds of arguments about toughness, Adelman's coaching, Peja? None of which are topics I mentioned.

I've been called delusional because I have a different assessment of Bonzi.

So, no. I can't figure this out either.

If you do, let me know. Thanks.

 

[Cal-Kings]

If you believe everything you hear from sources that you don't even know are credible, then have fun.
Don't even go there buddy. I have an engineering degree from a top engineering school so my language is widespread.

I apologize, I don't know people here. Since you interpreted my "extreme hypothesis" comment as something I was claiming as certainty, I just made an assumption you didn't understand it. The notes about posting in this forum say not to assume people's first language is English. I didn't mean any disrespect but was trying to communicate better.

If you want to presume that you know anything about me and if you want to continue to disrespect people that you talk to, then you are going to have a tough future ahead of you on this message board.

Again, I don't know any of you. But I'm a little disconcerted at the venom I've gotten when I've tried to be careful and clear in simply expressing an opinion and an interest in other view points. I realize I have to earn any respect from you folks and I'm trying hard to not return the venom. You don't know me either and I realize you think I could be a troll or worse, a Laker fan.

And you continue to say that part of your argument is an "extreme hypothetical". So why labor the point? I understood extreme hypothetical the first two times you wrote it.
You bring emotion out of people when you continuously disrespect them.

I'm honestly trying very hard to NOT disrespect anyone. I apologize if my style appears that way. I just enjoy debate and don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings.

It sure feels like you are over-defending your loosely-based points.
Wake up.
When you take your points out of a discussion and start picking apart everything I say, then you aren't discussing anything. You are just trying to prove me wrong so that you are right. Sorry buddy, doesn't work on me. The statements you made were vague, and filled with ill-logic. But they are yours and you can believe whatever you want, or whatever helps you sleep at night.

Sorry. I thought you were making points that you wanted a response to. I was trying to respond to the points you made. You are now characterizing my responses as "vague, filled with ill-logic". If I'd said that about your points, I'd probably be banned.

I understand that. I'm new here and am under scrutiny for my behavior. I promise, I'm no troll. I love the Kings and I just enjoy discussing them with people.

The problem I had with what you said was that now, after learning of his past and present, both before and after Sacramento, that you think Bonzi's time in Sacramento is suspicious to you.
Bonzi Wells was a good player, and a good person in his short-lived tenure in Sacramento. I chose to defend him for that reason and now I'm done. And so is this so-called discussion.

Yes, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I hope that someday I will be entitled to mine and we can be fellow Kings fans who happen to disagree on something.

 

[Bricklayer]

Can someone tell me what this discussion is about? I can't even figure it out. I need Cliff notes.

Cliffnotes?


You see, Cal Kings believes that Bonzi is selfish, untrustworthy and out for himself, and therefore, obviously since he is selfish, untrustworthy and out for himself the only logical thing for him to do would be to fake an injury and tank his contract season while malingering on the bench while some upstart kid starts putting up big games that threaten Bonzi's position and future. Because that's obviously what a selfish out for himself person would do no matter how completely ridiculous such an assertion appears on the surface. Furthermore it appears that Cal Kings a) did not watch the Kings much last year, as he both missed the fact that Bonzi was having a heck of an impressive season early, as well as missing the fact that Bonzi returned long before the playoffs; b) thinks Bonzi is a helluva lot better than I do given the apparent expectation that he could put up 23 and 12 on a routine basis whenever he wanted to and was simply malingering for, well the entire rest of his career, c) seems to have a rather dubious grasp on the remainder of Bonzi's career, aside from apparently knowing many many people in Portland and Memphis, causing him to make the basic mistake of mixing up a dog an a pain in the ***; and d) apparently thinks Geoff Petrie is a complete ****ing idiot, for who the hell else would offer $38 million to such an obvious cancer?

 

[nbrans]

Cliffnotes?


You see, Cal Kings believes that Bonzi is selfish, untrustworthy and out for himself, and therefore, obviously since he is selfish, untrustworthy and out for himself the only logical thing for him to do would be to fake an injury and tank his contract season while malingering on the bench while some upstart kid starts putting up big games that threaten Bonzi's position and future. Because that's obviously what a selfish out for himself person would do no matter how completely idiotic such an assertion appears on the surface. Furthermore it appears that Cal Kings a) did not watch the Kings much last year, as he both missed the fact that Bonzi was having a heck of an impressive season early, as well as missing the fact that Bonzi returned long before the playoffs; b) thinks Bonzi is a helluva lot better than I do given the apparent expectation that he could put up 23 and 12 on a routine basis whenever he wanted to and was simply malingering for, well the entire rest of his career, c) seems to have a rather dubious grasp on the remainder of Bonzi's career, aside from apparently knowing many many people in Portland and Memphis, causing him to make the basic mistake of mixing up a dog an a pain in the ***; and d) apparently thinks Geoff Petrie is a complete ****ing idiot, for who the hell else would offer $38 million to such an obvious cancer?

Ah ha. Thanks for the summary.

Yeah, I don't think Bonzi faked that injury.