Marty Burns: Progress report (incl. Kevin & Bonzi)

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/marty_burns/11/28/first.month.report/2.html

Most surprising players

1. Carmelo Anthony: Everybody knew the Nuggets' forward could fill the basket, but not like this. The 6-8 forward leads the NBA in scoring at 31.1 points per game while helping Denver to an 8-4 record. 2. Carlos Boozer/Deron Williams: Boozer, a former All-Star who has battled injuries the past two seasons, is averaging 21.9 points while ranking second in the NBA in rebounds (12.5). Williams, a second-year point guard, is averaging 17.1 points, stands third in assists (9.0) and is shooting 48 percent from the field.

3. Kevin Martin: This 6-7 third-year swingman showed last year that he could handle a starter's role at shooting guard when he filled in for the injured Bonzi Wells. But the skinny King has emerged as a dominant player this season, averaging nearly 25 points and five assists per game.

4. Monta Ellis/Andris Biedrins: The young Warriors, given a chance to show their skills under Nelson, have responded big-time. Ellis, a second-year guard, is averaging 17.7 points. Biedrins, a 6-11 forward, is averaging 12.2 points and 10.1 boards and is tied for third in the league in blocks (2.9).
5. Andrew Bynum: Thrust into the starting lineup because of injuries to Mihm and Brown, the 19-year-old second-year pivot came up big for L.A. in the opening weeks. The 7-footer has struggled lately -- and he probably won't ever make L.A. fans forget Shaq -- but the Lakers are excited about his future.

Biggest duds

1. Ben Wallace: From his lackluster rebounding totals to his recent headband controversy with coach Scott Skiles, Big Ben isn't exactly endearing himself to Chicago fans. It's almost as if he was planted by the Pistons to wreck the Bulls' chemistry. With a four-year, $60 million contract, Wallace needs to do more.
2. Boris Diaw: Last year's Most Improved Player showed up a little pudgy and has yet to get himself in shape. When told during training camp that the French forward hadn't picked up a basketball all summer, D'Antoni quipped, "That didn't mean he had to pick up every croissant in France, did it?"
3. Stephon Marbury: With Larry Brown having been replaced on the bench by Isiah Thomas, the veteran point guard was supposed to return to his superstar role. Instead Marbury has struggled mightily, averaging just 10.1 points and 4.5 assists. Lately he's even been riding the pine in the fourth quarter.
4. Mike James: After signing a $25 million free-agent deal, the veteran point guard was supposed to provide the playmaker Kevin Garnett has lacked since the Sam Cassell trade. But James' scoring and assist totals are way down from a year ago, and he admits he's been "cheating the fans and organization."

5. Bonzi Wells: Speaking of cheating, this 6-5 bulldog showed up out of shape for Rockets camp and has barely been seen since signing as a free agent last summer. Houston still hopes Wells can be a dominant sixth man once he gets in proper condition, but so far he has done nothing.
 
4. Monta Ellis/Andris Biedrins: The young Warriors, given a chance to show their skills under Nelson, have responded big-time. Ellis, a second-year guard, is averaging 17.7 points. Biedrins, a 6-11 forward, is averaging 12.2 points and 10.1 boards and is tied for third in the league in blocks (2.9).

This is surprising to me too. Anyone see Biedrins guarding Duncan last night? I don't know if I've ever seen anyone guard Duncan as well as Biedrins did. Duncan still got his points and rebounds, but he looked genuinely intimidated by Biedrins.
 
I screwed up in fantasy ball with Biedrins. I was almost certain that he was going to be Nelson's choice at C this year -- just the only big there who had the mobility and speed to play Nellie ball. But I assumed that he was my little ace in the hole who I could pick up for free if he panned out, and that if was generally below the radar. And then he goes off and explodes and blows up the damn radar and got scooped up in every league by somebody else. Boo.
 
5. Bonzi Wells: Speaking of cheating, this 6-5 bulldog showed up out of shape for Rockets camp and has barely been seen since signing as a free agent last summer. Houston still hopes Wells can be a dominant sixth man once he gets in proper condition, but so far he has done nothing.

Thank you, Geoff Petrie.
 
5. Bonzi Wells: Speaking of cheating, this 6-5 bulldog showed up out of shape for Rockets camp and has barely been seen since signing as a free agent last summer. Houston still hopes Wells can be a dominant sixth man once he gets in proper condition, but so far he has done nothing.

I heard on 1140 yesterday that Wells had left the team temporarily for "personal reasons." Not sure if that is true I haven't had the inclination to investigate.
 
I heard on 1140 yesterday that Wells had left the team temporarily for "personal reasons." Not sure if that is true I haven't had the inclination to investigate.

I'm sure he's feeling really bad/sad about how things went down here in Sacto. Not only from a $ stand point, but also leaving a team that loved him, and the team that had the highest offer on the table.

Is there room for him with Salmons and Garcia off the bench? He can play SG/SF. :confused:
 
I heard on 1140 yesterday that Wells had left the team temporarily for "personal reasons." Not sure if that is true I haven't had the inclination to investigate.

That's happened several times, but they haven't stated why. You have to wonder...family illness? Maritial problems? Maybe the missus ain't so happy at the $40 million doallar ****up this summer. ;)
 
I'm sure he's feeling really bad/sad about how things went down here in Sacto. Not only from a $ stand point, but also leaving a team that loved him, and the team that had the highest offer on the table.

Is there room for him with Salmons and Garcia off the bench? He can play SG/SF. :confused:

???

Why would you want to bring him back? The ship has sailed and based on what's happened since he left, it's just as well - at least for the Kings.
 
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Why would you want to bring him back? The ship has sailed and based on what's happened since he left, it's just as well - at least for the Kings.


I know, I kind of have a soft spot for former Kings to come back like CWebb for a good price.

I think the missus wants to do some holiday shopping and the cc is being declined! :p
 
I'm just the opposite. I was glad to see Corliss return but other than that I don't want to see the players I've had to say goodbye to return for a variety of reasons. Most often, it's because I want to remember them as they were and not the slower, more aged version they've become.

In Bonzi's case, he created all of this himself. He lied to the fans and I don't forget that easily. He and his agent went for the big bucks and, IMHO, got just what they deserved.

EDIT: I bear Bonzi no ill will. He was exemplary while he was here, for the most part. I hope he finds a way to put everything back together... just not with the Kings.

:)
 
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I'm just the opposite. I was glad to see Corliss return but other than that I don't want to see the players I've had to say goodbye to return for a variety of reasons. Most often, it's because I want to remember them as they were and not the slower, more aged version they've become.

In Bonzi's case, he created all of this himself. He lied to the fans and I don't forget that easily. He and his agent went for the big bucks and, IMHO, got just what they deserved.

So true this applies to other things too, like vacation places when you were young and had good memories about.

Bonzi really was pretty stupid about the whole asking for more $ than anyone was willing to pay and turning his back on us as fans and also the team who wanted him and offered more $ than anyone else did or would.

Note to self, don't mess with GP! :p
 
It's Pretty Clear To See Bonzi Isn't Likin Houston Too Well, That's Why He's Outta Shape Doesn't Care To Play For EM:eek:

First, if you take the cap lock off your phone, your posts will look more normal.

Second, what the heck are you talking about? He was out of shape when he reported to Houston. And he's had a myriad of physical and personal problems since then. I have to believe it's about much more than him not liking Houston. And what do you mean by "doesn't care to play for EM"?
 
I just feel sorry for him. He tried to bite off more than he could chew and ended up choking.

I can't feel sorry for someone who turned down close to $40 million. I'm glad he did, though, because it sure worked out well for the Kings.

Just like Latrell Sprewell, Bonzi Wells put himself on too high a pedastal. And now he's paying for it. Remember, he's earning more this year by not even showing up than most of us will see in a lifetime of hard work.
 
I can't feel sorry for someone who turned down close to $40 million. I'm glad he did, though, because it sure worked out well for the Kings.

Just like Latrell Sprewell, Bonzi Wells put himself on too high a pedastal. And now he's paying for it. Remember, he's earning more this year by not even showing up than most of us will see in a lifetime of hard work.

Yeah, I hear ya, and I agree. But there was something about Bonzi that I liked. Don't get me wrong, Kevin is better for our team both now and in the future, but I just didn't want to see Bonzi end up like this for one mistake. *Sigh*

Bonzi >> Latrell
 
Yeah, I hear ya, and I agree. But there was something about Bonzi that I liked.

Personally, I liked the fact that Bonzi was/is a tough S.O.B. There just isn't many of those guys in the league, especially at the guard position.

In a perfect world things would have worked out differently. Such is life.
 
I will say this again -- November does not matter. I really don't think Houston has the pieces at PF and PG to truly pull it off, but Bonzi Wells has the game and (when focused) approach on court to be an important part of a title team. Does all the things title winners do. He's not pretty, but pretty is for ice skating, not a contact sport. Bonzi's tough, physical, not afraid of anyone, and can dominate a game without getting many touches. Now given our complete failure to address our frontcourt issues in the offseason his loss is mitigated -- we aren't winning a title with or without him until we get a serious big. But Houston is still sitting on something. They are winning as it is. And they may yet have serious reinforcements on the way. I suspect the Spurs in particular are not looking forward to that possibility come playoff time.
 
I will say this again -- November does not matter. I really don't think Houston has the pieces at PF and PG to truly pull it off, but Bonzi Wells has the game and (when focused) approach on court to be an important part of a title team. Does all the things title winners do. He's not pretty, but pretty is for ice skating, not a contact sport. Bonzi's tough, physical, not afraid of anyone, and can dominate a game without getting many touches. Now given our complete failure to address our frontcourt issues in the offseason his loss is mitigated -- we aren't winning a title with or without him until we get a serious big. But Houston is still sitting on something. They are winning as it is. And they may yet have serious reinforcements on the way. I suspect the Spurs in particular are not looking forward to that possibility come playoff time.

Brick, you and most others here were wrong this summer and you are wrong now. Bonzi is not and never will be a key piece to a title contender. The guy was the best player on a BAD first half team where the expected go-to guy and leader was Peja of all people. Then he had some nice games in a series that the Kings were blown out of. And that's about par for the course with Bonzi. He's a good player on a bad team. How "tough" is he when he didn't show up to camp ready to play? That shows a decided lack of mental toughness, in my esteem.

By the way, the Rockets will fall apart down the stretch, just like every other T-Mac led team.
 
Brick, you and most others here were wrong this summer and you are wrong now. Bonzi is not and never will be a key piece to a title contender. The guy was the best player on a BAD first half team where the expected go-to guy and leader was Peja of all people. Then he had some nice games in a series that the Kings were blown out of. And that's about par for the course with Bonzi. He's a good player on a bad team. How "tough" is he when he didn't show up to camp ready to play? That shows a decided lack of mental toughness, in my esteem.

By the way, the Rockets will fall apart down the stretch, just like every other T-Mac led team.

And you clearly have had a bug up your butt about Bonzi Wells from the very beginning. But why people continue to try to slip by basic distortions of fact when challenging me is baffling. Your "good player on a bad team" hardly even knows what a bad team is. Oddly just about every team he is on makes the playoffs. Hell, last time we saw him he was the best player oin a playoff team. For that matter, better than anybody the other team had either.

As for being in shape, ever hear of Willie Green? I have no idea what shape Bonzi was in, and neither do you, but I do know that being a free agent up until the eve of training camp puts you in an untenable position -- you cannot play basketball unless you are an idiot. Especially not when trying to chase big bucks. If you do, you take the chance of losing everything.

As for the rest -- you may have missed it but Yao is the man in Houston now. And at some point in the playoffs they are going to run into a gutcheck game, and this time they may have a player unafraid of that. Maybe. We'll see.
 
Bonzi and Artest were fun to watch. It was fun having the 2 badboys play together on our team. I was really pissed to see him go...but with Martin stepping up and Salmons coming along I guess we just have to move on.
 
Bonzi

As well as Bonzi played in the Spurs series, it was way too little too late from him. He sat out most of the season with an "injury" while we struggled just to get the 8 spot. If he'd come to work and played like that during the season, maybe we wouldn't have been in 8th place?

I don't mind seeing him gone one bit.

I especially don't mind seeing him replaced with a player who is all heart and loves the game and plays hard even in November.

Good riddance to Bonzi. Now Houston can pay him for sitting.
 
As well as Bonzi played in the Spurs series, it was way too little too late from him. He sat out most of the season with an "injury" while we struggled just to get the 8 spot. If he'd come to work and played like that during the season, maybe we wouldn't have been in 8th place?

Oh boy -- that's just...sure you don't want to go back and delete that post?

I have no idea what you are implying...well yes I do, but it is ridiculous.

Tell you what, how about you go try tearing your groin and see if you roll out of bed without screaming for mommy to help you. Questioning Bonzi Wells toughness and willingness to play through pain is kind of like doing so for Ron. Considerably confused. For that matter questioning ANY player's willingness to play through a torn groin -- a positively nasty lingering injury -- is just cheap seats. And in this case of course sour sour grapes.
 
Oh boy -- that's just...sure you don't want to go back and delete that post?

I have no idea what you are implying...well yes I do, but it is ridiculous.

Tell you what, how about you go try tearing your groin and see if you roll out of bed without screaming for mommy to help you. Questioning Bonzi Wells toughness and willingness to play through pain is kind of like doing so for Ron. Considerably confused. For that matter questioning ANY player's willingness to play through a torn groin -- a positively nasty lingering injury -- is just cheap seats. And in this case of course sour sour grapes.

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. And lets not forget that Bonzi's injury last year was part of the catalyst for Kevin's improvement.

Anyway, back to Bonzi. He was the toughest player both physically and mentally that the Kings have seen since the end of our glory days up until the Artest trade.

There are only two dents in Bonzi's game: turnovers and outside shooting.
 
Oh boy -- that's just...sure you don't want to go back and delete that post?

I have no idea what you are implying...well yes I do, but it is ridiculous.

Tell you what, how about you go try tearing your groin and see if you roll out of bed without screaming for mommy to help you. Questioning Bonzi Wells toughness and willingness to play through pain is kind of like doing so for Ron. Considerably confused. For that matter questioning ANY player's willingness to play through a torn groin -- a positively nasty lingering injury -- is just cheap seats. And in this case of course sour sour grapes.

No, I don't want to delete or edit that post. That's my opinion based on observation of the entire season and of Bonzi's career as a whole.

I question the seriousness of his injury then and now.

Sorry that's difficult for you, but it's what I see.
 
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